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Gonz posted:My grandmother's organs are shutting down at the hospice. She'll probably die tonight or tomorrow morning. I’m so sorry, I hope you can find peace in these troubling times therattle posted:i just read about another Tesla that crashed in semi-autonomous mode. It strikes me that it's the worst of all worlds: the car is not yet intelligent enough to drive by itself, but because it's in semi-auto mode, drivers aren't paying attention the way they should be. It's unreasonable to expect them to, when there isn't much for them to actually do, so it ends up being in effect an imperfect self-driving car. it should either be that it's fully autonomous and self-driving, or the driver is in charge, but this inbetween state is dangerous. Apparently that self-driving Uber that killed the pedestrian had absolutely hosed programming, it wasn’t allowed to engage the emergency brakes to ensure a smooth ride, so the operator had to use emergency brakes in any situation. Less than 2 seconds before the car hit the pedestrian, it determined that emergency braking was required but was not designed to alert the operator that emergency braking was required. https://twitter.com/binarybits/status/999661474900475904
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I’m so sorry, I hope you can find peace in these troubling times Good god.
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therattle posted:Good god. Silicon Valley Disruption baby. Awoouu (wolf howl)
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May 25, 2018 14:42
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The only place I think an autonomous car could handle driving is a fully built and divided highway, where things are relatively simple compared to other roads, but I also don't trust autonomous cars at high speeds soooo Anyway, if you want safer streets, build them in safer ways. Don't wait for people or robots to become better drivers.
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May 25, 2018 15:08
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Lobok posted:Anyway, if you want safer streets, build them in safer ways. Don't wait for people or robots to become better drivers. This is the correct answer, but we don’t tax enough to maintain our infrastructure, making all roads drastically safer is a pipe dream, unfortunately.
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May 25, 2018 15:11
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I’m so sorry, I hope you can find peace in these troubling times I remember when I said robot cars were terrifying in this thread and everyone told me I was stupid
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May 25, 2018 15:13
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There’s a problem in society where we automatically assume robots = precision, but they’re only as precise as the profit margin and human error that goes into them allows.
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May 25, 2018 15:22
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X-Ray Pecs posted:There’s a problem in society where we automatically assume robots = precision, but they’re only as precise as the profit margin and human error that goes into them allows. 
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May 25, 2018 15:23
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I remember when I said robot cars were terrifying in this thread and everyone told me I was stupid I'm honestly surprised anyone disagreed.
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May 25, 2018 15:24
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I remember when I said robot cars were terrifying in this thread and everyone told me I was stupid I don't think that latter part actually happened.
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May 25, 2018 15:29
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I probably told him he was stupid. I was a little dumber then.
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May 25, 2018 15:32
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glam rock hamhock posted:I don't think that latter part actually happened. I wanna say it was like two months ago lol
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May 25, 2018 15:34
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I for one am extremely excited that Uber are disrupting Asimov's laws of robotics by just having their driverless cars keep a silent tally of when they're slamming into a person-shape
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May 25, 2018 15:38
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So the vehicle figured out that emergency braking was needed, but the developers didn't program it to actually perform this action because they thought doing so would be unsafe? That's pretty drat ironic.
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May 25, 2018 15:47
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Samuel Clemens posted:So the vehicle figured out that emergency braking was needed, but the developers didn't program it to actually perform this action because they thought doing so would be unsafe? That's pretty drat ironic. Not unsafe, they were worried it would make a bumpy ride.
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May 25, 2018 15:48
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Sounds like the system worked as intended then, maybe driver's should be paying more attention. - uber shareholders
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May 25, 2018 15:50
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MacheteZombie posted:Sounds like the system worked as intended then, maybe driver's should be paying more attention. For a brief second as I scrolled down your post there was no text, no usernames, and no avatars on my screen. Best that SA has ever looked.
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May 25, 2018 16:14
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We all know the real issues is too much pesky government regulations.
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I wish people would stop thinking self driving cars are supposed help them. The point is to eliminate jobs. The consumer market are just guinea pigs who’ve paid money to be tested on in potentially lethal experiments.
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May 25, 2018 16:19
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Lobok posted:For a brief second as I scrolled down your post there was no text, no usernames, and no avatars on my screen. Lol if only it was always that good looking.
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May 25, 2018 16:22
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Oh gently caress. Danny Boyle is directing Bond 25.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Oh gently caress. Danny Boyle is directing Bond 25. Is Craig back or we getting a fresh face?
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May 25, 2018 16:24
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As of now it looks like Craig is returning. I wonder if he'll still be a producer on the series?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I wanna say it was like two months ago lol I mean https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3803788&pagenumber=1609&perpage=40#post482338523 I don't think people were calling you stupid so much as arguing nuance to how loving horrible self driving cars are and exactly what part of how society is broken will let Uber fully get away with it, as is the the CineD genchat way.
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May 25, 2018 16:26
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:As of now it looks like Craig is returning. I wonder if he'll still be a producer on the series? Cool I was hoping he'd get another turn. I've enjoyed his take on bond.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Oh gently caress. Danny Boyle is directing Bond 25. Best thing to happen to Bond since Casino Royale for sure
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MacheteZombie posted:Cool I was hoping he'd get another turn. I've enjoyed his take on bond. He's very good and I always enjoy his anti-Bond PR blitz before the movie is released where he talks about how much he loving hates making Bond films. It's funny/sad that we lost like 1 or 2 Craig Bond films due to the production company being aggressively bad at its job. He's also on track with the last couple Bonds by having one great movie with the rest being various levels of bad.
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May 25, 2018 16:35
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glam rock hamhock posted:I mean Yeah, and I have no problem with that part of the argument. But I do think that when the technology matures it’ll be safer on balance than human drivers.
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May 25, 2018 16:39
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Best thing to happen to Bond since Casino Royale for sure I'm gonna say it again and again: T2 is one of the most gorgeous films of last year.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I'm gonna say it again and again: T2 is one of the most gorgeous films of last year. That movie's a mess but kind of a beautiful mess. Definitely felt like the most personal thing Boyle's made in a long minute.
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May 25, 2018 16:42
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therattle posted:Yeah, and I have no problem with that part of the argument. But I do think that when the technology matures it’ll be safer on balance than human drivers. Technology is great but the real difference is going to be in the laws and regulations. How safe do we want to be? Forget trickier stuff like the Trolley Problem. We could be strictly enforcing speed limits and the running of red lights with basic and existant tech right now. Now that's partly because it involves government spending, fine. But there's also this: quote:Ward points out that if policy makers, in Canada and elsewhere, actually want to promote safer vehicles and emerging safety systems, they should be requiring auto manufacturers to adopt a suite of technologies that involve some autonomous systems that are still controlled by drivers.
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Self-driving cars and trucks are going to put 4 million people out of work, so yeah, that's going to be great for the economy and a large group of disenfranchised, jobless people have never lead to anything bad in the whole of human history.
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Self driving cars have the problem that I don't think they're ever going to be at a place where it won't be necessary for someone to be there at least as a back up and the whole point of self driving cars conditions people to not pay attention to what the car is doing. Like the things will release with huge warnings when you start up the car that you must still pay attention to the road at all times, but people won't because if you were going to pay attention to the road, why the gently caress did you spend all this money on a self driving car? Like it's funny to me that the reason that car that killed someone had all that safety stuff turned off is because it's really hard to make 100% sure if a shape is human and they know this so they turned off the things that would either make the car constantly violently break or constantly tell the driver to pay attention. People, in general, are very good at quickly determining if a thing looks like a person or not and we still loving suck at it. I can see self driving cars getting better but I don't think it's going to get to a place where it can 100 for sure react to people in the road in a way that won't just either make it break constantly or kill people. Still, it's not like the auto industry didn't already make it illegal to get in the way of their cars so they'll surely find some way to push getting hit by robot cars people's fault. All that being said, even if they could make self driving cars 100% perfect: gently caress them. It has it's uses but people that can afford self driving cars can afford other solutions to those problems anyways and other than that it's just going to put massive amounts of people out of jobs and further consolidate one of this countries basic infrastructures into the hands of even fewer corporations.
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Did any of those state bills trying to make it legal for drivers to run over protesters get passed
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Did any of those state bills trying to make it legal for drivers to run over protesters get passed Nah, but I wonder what happened to make it a totally repugnant idea to 99% of the public?
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Speaking of Danny Boyle, I'm basically stealing this from Tars on twitter, but the Boba Fett movie would be cool if it was just 127 Hours but about Boba in the sarlacc pit.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Speaking of Danny Boyle, I'm basically stealing this from Tars on twitter, but the Boba Fett movie would be cool if it was just 127 Hours but about Boba in the sarlacc pit. He breaks his back falling in but luckily another bounty hunter in the pit punches him hard enough in the spine to fix it and he rises up out of it.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Speaking of Danny Boyle, I'm basically stealing this from Tars on twitter, but the Boba Fett movie would be cool if it was just 127 Hours but about Boba in the sarlacc pit. I don’t really know why I know this, but the Sarlacc pit is a psychic gestalt that incorporates the consciousnesses of its victims, so you could do some psychedelic enter the void poo poo here if you were so inclined.
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