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Hrm. I had thought it was animated by Studio Mir, but apparently it was Studio 4°C. Nevertheless, if you're going to give production to a Japanese company, it's gonna come out looking like a Japanese work. This same company also animated Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go and Transformers Animated, so it's not like they've been bound to one style. It was just what was asked for.
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Monaghan posted:Hey Thundercats also had one of the best character themes of all time What the gently caress this is incredible, I don’t remember this at all
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Nodosaur posted:Hrm. I had thought it was animated by Studio Mir, but apparently it was Studio 4°C. Yeah, Studio 4C did what they were asked for. The western producers in Warner were chasing the trend of "anime" looking animations. Much like how Studio Trigger's Hiroyuki Imaishi working on anime OPs can have different results.
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I think the art style looks terrible and lazy, but whatever. I'm not the target audience and it's not like people were clamoring for more Thundercats. I'm happy with remembering the old cartoon fondly but have no interest to watch it now, because that would probably make me realize how bad it was.
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Incidentally, I like this coming on the heels of a little exchange this thread had last week about the style being used for Young Justice and the DC animated movies being tired and lifeless without going crazy.Skwirl posted:Edit: Also I hate that entire animation style. I understand not using the Timm/Dini style, since that's what the last adaptation used, but I pray they eventually switch to something else, even something that's closer to the Jim Lee esque art that was the New 52 house style for the first few years of New 52. It's fine to have opinions without going wild about soy or anti-art school conspiracy theories.
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I watched Batman Ninja today. It was so strange. It felt like a collection of video game cutscenes more than any kind of cohesive movie. I'm not really sure I understand the general theme of the movie at all. And poor Damian got his personality eaten by time.
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As an alum of Humboldt State University, CalArts can't have Stephen Hillenburg, creator of Spongebob. He's ours
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poly and open-minded posted:As an alum of Humboldt State University, CalArts can't have Stephen Hillenburg, creator of Spongebob. He's ours You may keep him, it's okay. 
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business hammocks posted:The best thing about Thundercats was it produced that “MOTHER...FUCKER” .wav that endlessly delighted 17-year-old me. I'm going to put this one right between her pretty little...
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The Penny Arcade guys have a really good piece about it. Basically there was once a good argument here, but it's descended into such vitriol that you can't really salvage it. But the original fans of the IP had a reason to be upset about how the IP is being used to get a soft landing for a new property. It's worth reading the strip.
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I don't think it's a very good piece. Sometimes I like Tycho's takes but this seems wildly off base, like, he accuses the people defending the reboot of brand worship and blind corporatism, while completely ignoring the fact that the criticism of the reboot is shot through with weird right-wing politics stuff about "gender non-conforming characters" and "SJW animators". I don't think most people even care about the Thundercats reboot per se, they just don't like that a bunch of right wing nerd personalities are coming after it based on a preview, mostly to gin up their follower base as far as I can tell. Those Youtube videos Lurdiak posted about SOY CUCK THUNDERCATS are beyond parody.
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Also he calls it "a piece of corporate art" and says that the feelings of the fans are what's important. I think that's off base too. The creators most likely really care about this show. You don't get into animation to make money, and the modern animation stable at CN is extremely creator-focused and has allowed for a lot of experimentation and artistic expression. They're not some 60s- or 80s-style rehash factory churning out toy commercials with canned animation loops.
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Haven't the Penny Arcade guys been whinging about "SJWs" themselves for ages at this point?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Haven't the Penny Arcade guys been whinging about "SJWs" themselves for ages at this point? They've been on the wrong side of a lot of these issues, which isn't surprising considering their age, demographic and income bracket.
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I don't think they're generally so partisan, and (last I heard) they're friends with and actively support the work of people like Erika Moen, Gavin Greco, Amy Falcone and Katie Rice. I think they have bad takes sometimes but I don't think they generally whine about "SJWs".
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Android Blues posted:I don't think it's a very good piece. Sometimes I like Tycho's takes but this seems wildly off base, like, he accuses the people defending the reboot of brand worship and blind corporatism, while completely ignoring the fact that the criticism of the reboot is shot through with weird right-wing politics stuff about "gender non-conforming characters" and "SJW animators". Yeah I think they'd have a point if the show were actually out and people were dissing/getting overly defensive about it then. As it stands, it's a bunch of dudes ready to fight over a picture and a press release and some half-baked notion that the big bad CalArt SJWs are coming to kill their childhoods. Also it reeks of cultural gatekeeping (I think I'm using that term correctly excuse me if not) any time someone mentions that a remake should be "faithful" to the original work I cringe, because they might as well have said "it needs to be the same!"
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TwoPair posted:Also it reeks of cultural gatekeeping (I think I'm using that term correctly excuse me if not) any time someone mentions that a remake should be "faithful" to the original work I cringe, because they might as well have said "it needs to be the same!" Except My Little Pony, obviously, which only got good when they decided to make it for adult male fans instead (though of course they pretend it's still for little girls, but it's actually SURPRISINGLY DARK, trust me).  Sorry.
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Android Blues posted:Also he calls it "a piece of corporate art" and says that the feelings of the fans are what's important. I think that's off base too. I think it's off base too but mostly because you're never going to get a good representation of what fans want.
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Android Blues posted:I don't think they're generally so partisan, and (last I heard) they're friends with and actively support the work of people like Erika Moen, Gavin Greco, Amy Falcone and Katie Rice. I think they have bad takes sometimes but I don't think they generally whine about "SJWs". Wasn't there a thing a couple years ago where after some rape survivors spoke up about the insensitivity of a rape joke they made they doubled down and went whole hog on talking poo poo about sjws site fucked around with this message at 16:42 on May 25, 2018 |
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site posted:Wasn't there a thing a couple years ago where after some rape survivors some up about the insensitivity of a rape joke they made they went whole hog on talking poo poo about sjws Read all about it.
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site posted:Wasn't there a thing a couple years ago where after some rape survivors spoke up about the insensitivity of a rape joke they made they doubled down and went whole hog on talking poo poo about sjws You mean the Dickwolves Incident?
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Read this series of comics from 2001 about how video games suck and aren't for 'real' gamers anymore. It's basically the same gatekeeping attitude that has always been used to shut out women/minorities from gaming. They aim it at a 'chad' sort of buff jock cliche too. Self-identified 'gamers' are children who never grow out of high school and when they get any kind of power they immediately turn into petty, vindictive balls of spite. You can draw a throughline straight from that attitude to today's gamergate style harassment campaigns. They might not be deep in it themselves but there's a 90% chance they completely agree with it and just don't want to hurt their bottom line by fully committing to it.
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purple death ray posted:Read this series of comics from 2001 about how video games suck and aren't for 'real' gamers anymore. It's basically the same gatekeeping attitude that has always been used to shut out women/minorities from gaming. They aim it at a 'chad' sort of buff jock cliche too. Self-identified 'gamers' are children who never grow out of high school and when they get any kind of power they immediately turn into petty, vindictive balls of spite. You can draw a throughline straight from that attitude to today's gamergate style harassment campaigns. Ah yes, that dark period of video games that included Halo, Super Smash Brothers Melee and Metal Gear Solid 2
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ToastyPotato posted:I wish this at least summarized most of the comments made instead of unhelpfully noting that someone said something on a specific day. I think there used to be links but the sites they linked to died.
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Lurdiak posted:I think there used to be links but the sites they linked to died. Yeah in part two the majority of the comments actually have links, which I didn't realize until after I had posted.
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purple death ray posted:Read this series of comics from 2001 about how video games suck and aren't for 'real' gamers anymore. It's basically the same gatekeeping attitude that has always been used to shut out women/minorities from gaming. They aim it at a 'chad' sort of buff jock cliche too. Self-identified 'gamers' are children who never grow out of high school and when they get any kind of power they immediately turn into petty, vindictive balls of spite. You can draw a throughline straight from that attitude to today's gamergate style harassment campaigns. I stopped reading on the second strip when they referred to video games as "our herriatiage". I'll just never understand that mentality.
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2001 was 17 years ago. I have long stopped keeping track of Penny Arcade stuff. Is there anything more recent?
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Hypocrisy posted:2001 was 17 years ago. I have long stopped keeping track of Penny Arcade stuff. Is there anything more recent? They are definitely not the same people they were 17 years ago. They still have issues now and again (like, for instance, the entire Dickwolves thing), but even that was a while back and they've been trying to put in more effort since then. They've mellowed out a lot. Fatherhood tends to do that to people, as does realizing 'hey, we're at the head of a small empire and have actual employees that depend on us'.
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I wonder whether anyone back in the 80s lost their rag over the Ralph Bakshi version of Mighty Mouse not being sufficiently faithful to the Terrytoons shorts from 20 years earlier?
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Wheat Loaf posted:I wonder whether anyone back in the 80s lost their rag over the Ralph Bakshi version of Mighty Mouse not being sufficiently faithful to the Terrytoons shorts from 20 years earlier? Wasn't there a Mighty Mouse reboot people did complain about? I want to say it was by the Ren and Stimpy guy.
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I don't know, though I do know that John K was one of the animators who got his start on the Ralph Bakshi cartoon (along with Bruce Timm, Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon and others).
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't know, though I do know that John K was one of the animators who got his start on the Ralph Bakshi cartoon (along with Bruce Timm, Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon and others). Oh that might have been it. But yeah, whichever one he was on I thought was very disliked by fans? Did some googling and found what I was talking about : quote:"But the show often veered into territory too risque for the Tiffany Network, including having characters shower together and hinting in a dream sequence that Mighty's gal Pearl Pureheart had an illegitimate child with nemesis The Cow. The biggest controversy (and perhaps part of the reason why the show is remembered today) arose from the episode "The Littlest Tramp," where Mighty Mouse is shown sniffing what appeared to be cocaine. So yeah, the show was seen as controversial and ultimately got cancelled because it pissed off a bunch of people.
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My introduction to Mighty Mouse was a bit random: many years ago, when I was visiting my grandmother, I found my dad's 30-year old View-Master (!) with a bunch of Mighty Mouse (and Disney) reels.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:How is Batman:Ninja? It's gotten some good reviews, but I've heard it's a lot like watching all the cutscenes from the world's most insane Batman game
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El Gallinero Gros posted:How is Batman:Ninja? Pretty bonkers. Like Anime Mortal Kombat Batman.
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