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Speaking of Diablo, it's still really early, but there's some interesting pick rate vs. winrate things going on with him:
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May 25, 2018 19:42
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Win rates are pretty meaningless though.
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May 25, 2018 19:46
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The new lightning breath is very busted. Imagine an ult being eight percentage points better than apoc. Sure part of this is people who know what they're doing picking lightning breath. But yeah the ult is very broken as well, if we get dibble buffs i hope LB gets toned down.
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May 25, 2018 19:48
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bamhand posted:Win rates are pretty meaningless though. Win rates are very useful. You can fairly easily fit them to any narrative you want 
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May 25, 2018 19:49
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John Murdoch posted:Honestly I feel like I've always gotten more dupes than new items on average after a point. Like, not just random common crap but the likelihood of getting a dupe legendary seems pretty drat high considering all the fancy skins I don't own yet. To whit: I got Underworld Mariachi ETC out of a box and then my very next box...is yet another Underworld Mariachi ETC. There's definitely something hosed going on with boxes.
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May 25, 2018 20:11
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Lightning breath is a serious threat now and i don't think many people (myself included) are used to it. If the ult is up and diablo is close to you, you're basically dead without a medivh / mobility skill / etc... You can't just walk out of if anymore.
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May 25, 2018 20:26
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I am one of those who really enjoy the new Diablo, he is different but I still have fun playing him and win more games than I lose. Q build is definitely dead but both Q and AA build feel fine in their own way. Lvl 10 I always go lightening breath.
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May 25, 2018 20:49
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My biggest problem with him is he doesn’t feel unique anymore. I’d rather just play Garrosh or Stitches than nuDiablo, which is a shame since I one tricked him for several months prior to this. New lightning breath is probably the only cool thing about the rework - it’s both good and feels good to use.
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May 25, 2018 21:04
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No Wave posted:I'll admit I liked lunara's position as a hero a bit before the rework. More niche,, asked for a few specific heroes to be on the enemy team before drafting her (uther, garrosh, sonya), had some trade-offs with her strengths. She's just Good now in general, imo I'd like to see culling go to 7 so that she's not so good at everything. I suspect we'll just get nerfs to culling instead, which is better than nothing but still will be a very easy pick most of the tume. I was playing Valla last night and it was kind of miserable. Ran into Lunara and Hanzo a lot and they hurt me. They hurt me.
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May 25, 2018 22:24
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I still really like Valla's design, deputy valla feels very natural and I'm very happy when I play her. She just rarely seems like the optimal pick in draft any more (you can certainly still win with her, but part of the fun of draft for me is trying to figure out the ideal hero). You'll almost always want fenix or lunara instead now, with BoE being the possible exception (her race is still excellent, and hanzo isnt real at my mmr).
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May 25, 2018 22:51
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tried out guldan recently, he's really cool and fun. i end up topscoring on hero damage and/or seige damage every game, but never win fights/get kills/win games. anyone got any g'd tips?
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May 26, 2018 09:36
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I don’t think you are supposed to get sick killz as Gul’Dan. You clear waves, you crap damage all over the place and in team-fights you nail them with Horrify. You leave the killing blows to your teammates. If you can’t rely on them, you still stay at the backline poking people until their support can’t keep up. You are not very mobile or tanky and you are going to be damaging yourself with Lifetap, so play like you are a fragile glass. However, if the enemy team has a mobile assassin (Tracer, Genji, Greymane) hug your teammates, so they can hopefully respond with timely CC/heals. Being solo with those kind of opponents puts a huge target on your back, and they will burst you down no matter how much you suck (uh, I mean with Drain Life ).
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May 26, 2018 09:51
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Horrify needs to secure a kill in team fights. If you only ever use it to peel you're using it wrong. Practice your 1 shot combo with horrify (horrify a backliner, corruption all 3 stacks in the direction they're running, q then drain life till it leashes). Also just in case you didn't know, enemies run away from the very center of horrify so you can control which way they go. Hitting all 3 circles of corruption is easier than it sounds if you get used to aiming it properly. unclenutzzy fucked around with this message at 16:16 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 26, 2018 16:13
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So hey, don't try and use Junkrat's riptire ult on the conveyor belts on Volskaya. It will do his ult callout and the animation will play and then reset, never unleashing the tire. He'll do this over and over as long as you keep standing on the belt. You'll have to move him off of it on to stable ground to do the ult. Ruined a potential bunch of kills last night during a game
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May 26, 2018 19:41
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C-c-c-c-cross postin'!BrianBoitano posted:Learn to speak HotS in 5 minutes!
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May 27, 2018 01:44
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I kind of want Diablo to just go back to the way he was with maybe his damage brought down a bit while keeping the new lightning breath.
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May 27, 2018 06:00
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BrianBoitano posted:C-c-c-c-cross postin'! Stop lying, these are all lines from Alarak announcing.
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May 27, 2018 10:14
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Had a weird bug earlier where during the later half of the game tassadars beam auto attack was doing 0 damage to the coin chests on BHB and also 0 to the little 2 man minion camps. I thought I was lagging at first because I was just standing there shooting it and the health of the chest never budged but then murky came and starting hitting it and the coins started popping out.
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May 27, 2018 12:05
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MonsterEnvy posted:I kind of want Diablo to just go back to the way he was with maybe his damage brought down a bit while keeping the new lightning breath. Same. New lightning breath is cool and good but the old Diablo was more fun and not really overpowered. They should have just bumped his % hp dmg down to 10% max per wallbang (or made it a big chunk of non% hp dmg if they don’t want big D threatening tanks so much) and baselined the q range buff/nerf if from the shadows’ range was really a problem. Diablo had really fun gameplay before the changes and they should have tried to preserve that. Nu Diablo lost a lot of the mechanics that made Diablo fun because the focus is on hitting big lightning breaths which is point and selfroot whereas old Diablo was all about combos and positioning for wall bangs. Shifting power out of Q and into LB makes Diablo’s gameplay a lot more boring basically.
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May 27, 2018 21:39
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ninjewtsu posted:tried out guldan recently, he's really cool and fun. i end up topscoring on hero damage and/or seige damage every game, but never win fights/get kills/win games. anyone got any g'd tips? He's very reliant on your fundamental skills like map awareness, positioning, target prioritization, ability to land skill shots, manganging health/mana pools, and knowing when to be aggressive, so it's hard to give general tips that would be useful. Play him like a glass cannon but also don't be afraid to take a fight. Unlike other poke heroes with similar ranges (Li-Ming, Lunara, Chromie, Kael), having Drain Life and Life Tap means that Gul'Dan can often come away from skirmishes with an advantage as long as he doesn't die. The quests at level 1 also mean that he is very rarely dealing useless damage. Some things you might not know: - 90% of the time you'll want to be placing Corruption so that the enemy is between the first and second circles to reduce your reliance on them moving into it. - The range indicator for Fel Flame is just a little bit shorter than its actual range. Knowing this you can poke towers with Fel Flame while being out of tower range. - If you time Horrify correctly it can be used to escape some of Gul'dan's more annoying counters like Butcher's charge combo or Illidan's Hunt so that it fears them the moment they smash into you. The short but noticeable cast time on Horrify can make this pretty difficult so it's not something you always want to rely on. unclenutzzy says you should practice Horrify into Corruption combo but I don't think it's really worth focusing on that specific setup. I'm coming close to 600 games with Gul'Dan and the amount of times that situation comes up and is the correct play (versus attempting to fear them towards you or attempt some other setup) has been pretty miniscule. However, as with any skillshot you should focus on predicting enemy movement and practicing this may help you internalize the timing and range of Gul'Dan's skills.
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May 28, 2018 00:03
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I finished the event quest yesterday and the announcer is so good
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May 28, 2018 00:53
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I've never done the "correct" Gul'dan horrify combo, I mostly use it as a part of a cc chain.
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May 28, 2018 00:55
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This is probably just me being unobservant but do slows affect Artanis while he's blade dashing? I just had a game where occasionally when I blade dashed it was like I was swimming through molasses and the only thing I could think is I was making contact with Blaze's oil slick, but I've never noticed that interaction before.
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May 28, 2018 05:38
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Kai Tave posted:This is probably just me being unobservant but do slows affect Artanis while he's blade dashing? I just had a game where occasionally when I blade dashed it was like I was swimming through molasses and the only thing I could think is I was making contact with Blaze's oil slick, but I've never noticed that interaction before. Blade dash seems to be really buggy this patch. I've seen some instances of it colliding with walls too this patch.
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May 28, 2018 16:00
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Blade dash seems to be really buggy this patch. I've seen some instances of it colliding with walls too this patch. Yeah, I just played some games against Artanis and his blade dash seems wonky as gently caress right now, the animation isn't always playing right, etc. Weird.
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May 29, 2018 02:52
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Kai Tave posted:Yeah, I just played some games against Artanis and his blade dash seems wonky as gently caress right now, the animation isn't always playing right, etc. Weird. I watched a Junkrat tire proceed agonizingly slowly through tar so yeah, something weird is up
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May 29, 2018 04:39
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fool_of_sound posted:
I got Garrosh JEFE, new Diablo skin, all 3 tints of new Etc skin and a pinata mount but not Lunara yet  Don't know if skin is actually wroth spending shards on
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May 29, 2018 04:56
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Not gonna lie though, this Lucha announcer is pretty dang sweet.
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May 29, 2018 07:05
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He's just got great energy.
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May 29, 2018 07:16
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Bogart posted:He's just got great energy. It's absolutely what a "legendary" quality announcer ought to be, imo. Just copy-pasting the map specific versions of things like the Raven Lord is really lazy.
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May 29, 2018 07:31
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I've gotten some real dope portraits and sprays so far.
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May 29, 2018 08:10
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Everytime he goes talento Talento! TALENTO! I smile
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May 29, 2018 20:06
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That Lunara skin is like one of those huge rear end stuffed animals at a fairground shooting gallery that you're never going to win.
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May 29, 2018 20:45
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Quick match is a coinflip right now, thanks to the free week hanzo. Just lost two in a row thanks to having him on my team Edit: here comes a third Edit: Oh four in a row, four losses in a row. Nice being right. No Wave fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 30, 2018 |
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May 30, 2018 02:07
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Did Hanzo get nerfed that hard? Haven't played him in regular match since the rework but he still seemed pretty good in brawl.
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May 30, 2018 03:17
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He's decent if you know how to not die. He's like Lunara but with less health so if you get burst and/or CCed you die quickly. Free week means people are playing this normally slightly underpowered hero, but they haven't climbed his learning curve yet.
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May 30, 2018 03:23
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When do rotations for free heroes change? Tomorrow? Cain is pretty fun.
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May 30, 2018 03:52
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ToastyPotato posted:When do rotations for free heroes change? Tomorrow? Cain is pretty fun. Next week. They just changed last night.
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fool_of_sound posted:Next week. They just changed last night. Oh poo poo nice. Gonna put some more time in on Cain then. I might save to buy him.
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