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MysticalMachineGun posted:"Wise political strategy" is never an argument for indefinite detention and torture Labor would have a far better argument for their whole "the ends justify the means" to get votes if they had any clue what their ends actually were, aside from getting sweet consultancy positions and fat retirement pensions.
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May 27, 2018 12:54
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CrazyTolradi posted:Labor would have a far better argument for their whole "the ends justify the means" to get votes if they had any clue what their ends actually were, aside from getting sweet consultancy positions and fat retirement pensions. Don't forget getting your own totally sweet Facebook Live show.
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May 27, 2018 13:00
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labor 52/48 https://twitter.com/zippuli/status/1000702543377219584
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May 27, 2018 13:09
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https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/1000701082606055425 https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/1000701333047988224 So the Budget was a negative. And next week it's going to be All Barnaby All The Time. $150,000 times. Comstar fucked around with this message at 13:18 on May 27, 2018 |
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May 27, 2018 13:13
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May 27, 2018 13:26
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So Pauline gains votes for rejection of tax cuts. If Labor runs an election on tax cuts it's going to be QLD election mk2.
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May 27, 2018 13:31
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One day I’ll explain to people what a margin of error is.
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May 27, 2018 14:03
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Random aside. Today, I learned about The Queens Commonwealth Canopy! An initiative started by her Maj back in 2015, where all nations of the Commonwealth would pledge to a network of participating protected woodland and forestry across the world. Nearly everyone's contributed. Canada gave the Great Bear Forest, 64,000 km/sq! Well poo poo, I can only assume said Australia. We don't want to protect any forest! That'll give the forest publicity! And stop us cutting it down! But we love Her Maj! We're the Libs, the monarchy party! But then some bright spark presumably had an idea! Why don't we solve this the same way we solve all our other problems! And so Australia pledged a forest. In Papua New Guinea.  I'm assuming the course of events, but loving hell, we gave a forest IN PNG MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 27, 2018 |
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May 27, 2018 14:06
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:One day I’ll explain to people what a margin of error is. Considering the libs claimed victory after the previous +1 poll I think it's pretty fair to count this one as a negative for them.
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May 27, 2018 14:14
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Anidav posted:So Pauline gains votes for rejection of tax cuts.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:One day I’ll explain to people what a margin of error is. *writes down all nine decimal places on the calculator*... +/- 0.1
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May 27, 2018 15:00
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Aesculus posted:It's still absolute poo poo to shut down discussion of how we can help these people who are being actively tortured in concentration camps and to still basically condone it. I was talking about the horrors of our immigration policy in a couple of other threads and people were responding well, then the whole "We lost one and a half thousand immigrant children after forcibly separating them from their parents for no reason other than racism and they're probably slaves now or dead. Also we tied them up and tased and tortured and starved and abused them for fun" thing came out with the US. It was like the "hold my beer" meme, but with crimes against humanity.
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May 27, 2018 17:33
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May 27, 2018 18:32
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You Am I posted:Labor bad, unions happy for families to be kept in detention centres. Just want to say that the NTEU is very anti concentration camps so it’s not every union Got a lot of great comments from other unions on labor day
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May 27, 2018 22:20
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What if the optimist in me is correct in thinking the ALP will change tune and soften once in government? What if the current strategy of being a small target also means giving no narrative for the Coalition to grab onto. Or maybe they thirst for refugee blood.
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May 27, 2018 22:38
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But what if the thirst is only temporary?
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May 27, 2018 22:39
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The thirst is... *checks notes from a focus group in western sydney* Good?
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Anidav posted:What if the optimist in me is correct in thinking the ALP will change tune and soften once in government? What if the current strategy of being a small target also means giving no narrative for the Coalition to grab onto. They're forging a pretty clear narrative around business being held accountable which is all they really need right now. It's pretty incredible that there is such a high level of distrust for business right now. I've never experienced such a high density of terrible interviews with VECCI and AIG spokespeople on the radio. They're freaking out.
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Has anyone seen the Facebook page of the Greens candidate for Footscray? He looks like he's a Toll shirt away from being an angry white supremacist.
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lmao MikeJF posted:And so Australia pledged a forest. In Papua New Guinea. What an imperial thing to do. The mother country would be so proud.
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May 27, 2018 23:40
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Whitlam posted:Has anyone seen the Facebook page of the Greens candidate for Footscray? He looks like he's a Toll shirt away from being an angry white supremacist. Screenshots?
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Whitlam posted:Has anyone seen the Facebook page of the Greens candidate for Footscray? He looks like he's a Toll shirt away from being an angry white supremacist. I thought he looked like a pretty standard nerd.
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May 28, 2018 00:27
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i thought it was a sweeroy callout post
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May 28, 2018 00:46
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The previous candidate was Rod Swift, so I'm real disappointed that the new candidate doesn't have a similarly porny name
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https://www.facebook.com/AngusMcAlpineGreensFootscray/ Phone/work posting so I'll just leave the link, but I don't know him which is why I ask. As someone who doesn't know him he comes across as very negative to me, and almost everything he's posted has been either slamming Labor or about refugees, with no positive policy announcements, which is not a great strategy for a state government election, especially with a fairly popular state Labor government. Also he keeps tagging things with #VicPol which someone should probably explain to him doesn't mean what he thinks it means.
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Whitlam posted:https://www.facebook.com/AngusMcAlpineGreensFootscray/ Phone/work posting so I'll just leave the link, but I don't know him which is why I ask. As someone who doesn't know him he comes across as very negative to me, and almost everything he's posted has been either slamming Labor or about refugees, with no positive policy announcements, which is not a great strategy for a state government election, especially with a fairly popular state Labor government. Also he keeps tagging things with #VicPol which someone should probably explain to him doesn't mean what he thinks it means. Cool, next zoom in on one pixel of his teeth so we know how green they are.
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Something that ALP strategists should probably be factoring into the mix is that, should they win election, all the Neo-con appointees in Border Farce will stop concealing the number of 'turn-backs', 'turn-back' deaths and concealed boat arrives and start leaking it all to the press. This will make it look like the ALP (or ALP & Greens) have 'lost control of our borders just like we said they would'. Any policy that isn't a straight out rejection of the current arrangements is doomed. Forget any humanitarian aspects this is pure strategy.
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Whitlam posted:https://www.facebook.com/AngusMcAlpineGreensFootscray/ Phone/work posting so I'll just leave the link, but I don't know him which is why I ask. As someone who doesn't know him he comes across as very negative to me, and almost everything he's posted has been either slamming Labor or about refugees, with no positive policy announcements, which is not a great strategy for a state government election, especially with a fairly popular state Labor government. Also he keeps tagging things with #VicPol which someone should probably explain to him doesn't mean what he thinks it means. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23vicpol&src=typd
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May 28, 2018 01:41
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Cartoon posted:Something that ALP strategists should probably be factoring into the mix is that, should they win election, all the Neo-con appointees in Border Farce will stop concealing the number of 'turn-backs', 'turn-back' deaths and concealed boat arrives and start leaking it all to the press. This will make it look like the ALP (or ALP & Greens) have 'lost control of our borders just like we said they would'. Any policy that isn't a straight out rejection of the current arrangements is doomed. Forget any humanitarian aspects this is pure strategy. Wouldn't be surprised. Probably the only way they could get ahead of this happening is if they conducted an investigation day one into historical statistics during the coalition days and released them straight away.
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Les Affaires posted:Wouldn't be surprised. Probably the only way they could get ahead of this happening is if they conducted an investigation day one into historical statistics during the coalition days and released them straight away. Yeah, that'd be the only way to get around it, but it'd rely on the MSM not being total poo poo and only focusing on the LNP talking points. Good luck Labor.
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May 28, 2018 02:14
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Constantinople, the city that never had any history of warfare until Muslims came along. Also not part of any military expansion. No sir.
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May 28, 2018 02:20
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Funny name for Istanbul you got there Corey.
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May 28, 2018 02:24
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May 28, 2018 02:27
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Leave it up to the conservatives to be upset about something that took place over 500 years ago.
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May 28, 2018 02:37
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his ancestors probably did the fourth crusade
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May 28, 2018 02:41
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From Russia with Love is probably the most Australian Conservatives movie ever made. It's insane.
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isnt that the one with the briefcase w hidden gold coins
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