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Mindblast
Jun 28, 2006

Moving at the speed of death.


Aha, thanks for that. There are a few titles that actually are convoluted like that so I just figured this was one of them!

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Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
My bad, I should've worded that one better.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Golden Kamuy, which is extremely good and has been recommended in this thread at least once, has an anime now. I'll let this post about the first episode speak for itself.

Ccs posted:

Wh-what is going on with the art direction in this show. A bear with fully rendered fur is fighting a cell-shaded wolf. You...you can't do that. You gotta pick an approach.

Aside from that the pacing seems rushed and the direction is not very inspired. A lot of the charm from the manga seems to be wasting away here.


I know it's only April but I want to nominate this as worst shot of the year.



JUST SHADE BOTH LIKE THE WOLF YOU MORONS
well at least...at least there's...vinland saga, right? right???

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


That bear is full-on CGI. It's not even slightly disguised. :psyduck:

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

it's fine

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I absolutely love Vinland Saga and have zero desire to watch the anime. It's two separate mediums, and most of the time one simply doesn't translate to the other unless it's doing something completely original and new rather than rote regurgitation of the previous work.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

ryonguy posted:

I absolutely love Vinland Saga and have zero desire to watch the anime. It's two separate mediums, and most of the time one simply doesn't translate to the other unless it's doing something completely original and new rather than rote regurgitation of the previous work.
I mean you could say the same about many other manga adaptations that actually turned out incredible, like, say, fullmetal alchemist brotherhood. They just...need a budget, and staffing.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Both the original anime and the manga of FMA are what got me into their respective mediums (I found out after I finished the anime that the manga was still going, which led me to discovering that it went in a whole different direction, which was pretty mind-blowing at the time), but Christ I just couldn't stick with Brotherhood. The music in particular is cloyingly twee, and it is crammed to the rafters with obnoxious chibi stuff and other elements that work just fine for conveying motion and pushing focus in a still medium, but make me pray for the sweet release of death when applied to anime.

I might have to reread the manga though, it's been a while and I just love FMA.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Captain Invictus posted:

I mean you could say the same about many other manga adaptations that actually turned out incredible, like, say, fullmetal alchemist brotherhood. They just...need a budget, and staffing.

The only way I could see a production of Vinland Saga being good is if they do a side story of Thorfinn when he was young that doesn't exist in the original manga. Because otherwise you're trying to pick a dozen, maybe two dozen, episodes out of a 140 chapter plus manga of complex, interwoven stories and characters. Maybe they could do from Thorfinn's dad's murder to the death of Askeladd, but even that would be fifty or sixty chapters.

What I'm saying is I wish every manga I liked could get a perfect 1 to 1 anime adaptation like One Piece :v:

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Hi everyone,

I read in the OP that "I am a Hero" was something beautiful and cool that I should read immediately and not spoil for myself, so I did. That was 3 days and 22 chapters ago so here are my initial impressions:

First of all, the art is freaking gorgeous. Seriously, it's way up there. Probably what kept me going for so long despite the slow pace (I tabbed back to this thread about 40 pages in wondering if I clicked on the wrong link). Secondly all the characters feel really grounded and relatable. I took a liking to following spergmaster Hideo and reading his bottomless rants about manga :spergin: , his creepy monologues at work, his awkward night outs with his loser friends and also that freaking imaginary friend that had me going "wtf ?" for a while at the beginning. It all rings true especially when compared to something like Attack on Titan and its cardboard cutout protagonists. (yeah, the comparison is not super relevant I admit but I'm watching it atm and it's jarring to me so...)

Now onto the meat of it: I had my suspicions about what was actually going on here but the way it is setup is absolutely brilliant and kept me on my toes. The TV reports on the background are a pretty dead giveway that some poo poo is about to go down, but since that dummy Hideo is so unaware of his surroundings it instills this great sense of impending dread. Good horror is like slowly stretching an elastic, the more you stretch it the harder it hits you. The moment that lady was hit by a car and got up all exorcist style I told myself "poo poo! I knew it, what began as a mundane story is about to take a turn for the worse". I had no idea. Now for context, note that I read this stuff alone and tired at 3am before going to bed. Because going blind is best right ? Well I was definitely not prepared for the pure, unfiltered nightmare fuel that were the last panels of the first tome. This poo poo brought me back to my dumb teenage self watching the original The Ring at night with headphones. I can say without a doubt that this unholy piece of graphic horror will stay burned in some part of my mind until the day I die. gently caress you OP. At this point I called it quits and went to bed, eventually finding an uneasy sleep.

The second tome I read this morning: with the "surprise zombie story" twist out of the way, I have to say I was anticipating that this would quickly fall into the clichés of the genre. Turns out once again, I was underestimating the material at hand. The whole fight between Hideo and his recently un-deceased girlfriend hit so many cords at once for me. It managed to be tense, horrific, hilarious and still heartbreaking. All that without skipping a beat. Amazing stuff. The rest of tome 2 was a pretty funny romp following spergy Hideo, as clueless as ever, witnessing the collapse of civilization. While a lot of it was quite inspired (the plane landing gear scene, the office fight :discourse:) by the end I could still feel it settle into the tropes of the genre.

So here I am, end of tome 2. I have to say, I loved it overall and this was a great recommendation but I'm afraid tomes 3 and beyond might quickly lose steam and feel stale? Should I continue or does this turn into The Walking Dead ?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
It does lose its steam a bit, but I wouldn’t call it stale. Some people also feel let down by the ending. Honestly for me it’s just okay.

Ironically you talk about Attack on Titan as I just caught up on that and man it’s a wild ride. I did not expect it to go where it went and it does a good job of not sanitizing the horrors of survival without going into misery porn.

CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 15, 2018

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Yeah its really funny calling Erin a cardboard cutout considering where he's gotten to at this point.

I am a hero does some really awesome stuff throughout but the ending is VERY divisive, and the way it treats women at times can be real lovely. It can sometimes go on some super awkward tangents story wise but otherwise it's a real good ride all the way through, least until the ending.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Eren is a little generic shonen hero and most development is by the supporting cast especially after the basement reveal.

Titan is good at twisting the story just as things are getting stale.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Alright, I guess I will put it aside for now then. Those first 2 tomes were really brilliant but I don't feel the need to go past that point.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Eren is a little generic shonen hero and most development is by the supporting cast especially after the basement reveal.

Titan is good at twisting the story just as things are getting stale.

Yeah, make no mistake I also like AoT but for different reasons. Besides, my complaint could be more broadly applied to the Shonen genre like you said. Erin and most of the supporting cast are very cookie cutter in terms of archetypes and have shown little progression overall. (So far at least, I'm halfway through season 2 and have not read the manga for comparison)

Since I got a good recommendation from the thread I'll try to give back. Here's a good series I reread recently (haven't read the whole thread yet so apologies if this is a repost):


Ikigami (2005)
https://www.mangareader.net/ikigami

Ikigami deals with the day to day of a public servant, Kengo Fujimoto, in Not Japan. Kengo visits people at home at all times of day so you follow him around while he delivers important notices and stuff. Like for instance: "Hello Sir, this says you will be dead 24h from now, please sign here. Oh and you can ride the train or go to the movies free of charge using this pass. Have a good day and thank you for your sacrifice.". See, in this dystopian world Not Japan enforces a law saying all first grade students must receive an injection that will kill one in a thousand between the age of 18 and 24. Kengo is the poor bastard they call when someone's time is up.

It reads like a series of about 20 chapters/short stories so you can finish it in a reading session or two. Some are just good, and some are plain fantastic. Obviously Kengo will not go through this unscathed and you get to see how his work affects him, what goes through the mind of someone with only a day left to live, the mental gymnastics at work to justify a hosed up situation and finally how difficult it is to fight an authoritarian regime from the inside, should you decide to do so.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Sassy Sasquatch posted:

Alright, I guess I will put it aside for now then. Those first 2 tomes were really brilliant but I don't feel the need to go past that point.


Yeah, make no mistake I also like AoT but for different reasons. Besides, my complaint could be more broadly applied to the Shonen genre like you said. Erin and most of the supporting cast are very cookie cutter in terms of archetypes and have shown little progression overall. (So far at least, I'm halfway through season 2 and have not read the manga for comparison)
My friend you should read the aot manga and have your eyes opened

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Yeah yhe anime has only got to the parts that completely disavow the shonen-ey parts of it.

I dont want to say anything explocit about the manga right now: but goddamn if it isnt really loving good.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Okay okay, you've made me curious so I'll give the manga a fair shot. Will report back on the error of my ways if I come around on Erin.

Do you get put on a watchlist for posting in this thread btw ?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Sassy Sasquatch posted:

Do you get put on a watchlist for posting in this thread btw ?
please don't be that guy

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
Yeah, you're one Sister Princess away from Lowtax mass banning ADTRW and this thread. You hosed up bad.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Ha, I loving knew it. Well, I don't mind giving Lowtax money and this thread is nice (finally caught up) so let's get back on track :


Dragon Head By Minetaro Mochizuki
(1995 - 2000, Seinen, 10 volumes)

Dragon Head follows 3 teenagers after a major earthquake derails their shinkansen under a tunnel. When they wake up everyone is dead and the tunnel has collapsed upon them. To make things worse, one of the survivors begins to insists that he saw something move in the darkness... This claustrophobic survival story really starts off with a bang. I don't want to spoil it but it quickly gets weird.



Be advised, there are a couple of hosed up scenes. (nothing too hardcore but still)

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I haven't taken some time to read manga in a while but both of your recommendations sound ace, so keep up the good work.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Here's a unique one, and it just got licensed by Seven Seas too!

Satoko & Nada - slice of life webmanga



quote:

Satoko, who is Japanese, has a new roommate in America: a Saudi Arabian woman named Nada, who practices Islam and wears a hijab. While under the same roof, Satoko and Nada learn how to live together with very different customs and still have all the fun young women crave! Through mutual respect—and the hilarious adventures of their daily life—Satoko and Nada prove that friendship knows no borders.

Link for Seven Seas's licensing announcement, first volume will be released in october.

It's quite fun and funny, and the author has a muslim journalist who collaborates with her on it.


ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Nami-yo-Kiite-Kure

quote:

On a night out drinking to get over being duped and ditched by her last boyfriend, Koda Minare ends up providing a massive drunken rant--while blackout drunk--for Matou, the director of a radio station. The next day, she is shocked to hear her own voice being broadcast on the radio! She rushes to the studio, leaving her job at a curry soup and bread restaurant in jeopardy. However, her drunken rant and the next day's impromptu damage-control live broadcast end up earning her an invitation to try working at the radio Station.

It's a little hard to explain, it moves around in themes, though predominately a slice-of-life manga.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I'm sure someone will swoop in to properly apply links to this afterwards but here're a couple of my recommendations.

Have you heard of Kenshiro?



This is not him, though I can understand getting confused by the resemblance.


Super Doctor K Action, Drama, Shounen

Doctor K is a doctor with exceptional skill. Graduated from a top-tier, high profile medical college, instead of working in a hospital or running his own clinic, he prefers to live his life wandering around to treat people in needs of help.

Basically it's HIGH OCTANE SURGERY. Instead of wandering a wasteland and punching Mad Max looking raiders with martial arts that make them explode, he's an incredible doctor/surgeon.








Sorry about so many pictures, I'm not great at this.

And if you're looking for the violence that'd normally come from someone with that build in a manga well then I also have


Kengan Ashura Action, Comedy, Drama, Martial Arts, Shounen

Since the Edo periods of Japan, gladiator arenas exist in certain areas. In these arenas, wealthy business owners and merchants hire gladiators to fight in unarmed combat where winner takes all. Toki Taouma, nicknamed "Ashura", joins these arenas and devastates his opponents. His spectacular ability to crush his enemies catches the attention of the big business owners, including the Nogi Group chairman, Nogi Hideki.

To sum things up, Kengan Ashura is a tournament arc as a manga. Like Street Fighter. Or Tekken.


And they lean more towards Street Fighter in that people are total freaks who have some real crazy fighting styles/bodies.










ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I thought that guy looked familiar...

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Kengan Ashua is definitely on my list of series to read at some point. People keep posting great pages from it around ADTRW, or did for a while at least.

Here's a good little 4koma series, I'll just copy/paste the OP I made for it here. I didn't put it in the OP but the Yamai chapters you can skip are 23-26, they're extremely bad and the series never pulls that poo poo again likely due to an editor telling them to knock it the gently caress off.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3857861

Captain Invictus posted:





Komi-san Can't Communicate is a story-based 4koma about Komi-san, a beautiful girl who has a communication disorder.

Mangadex link
Kissmanga link

But, it is actually about her issues with talking to people, and being pressured into being the Perfect Goddess Of School by everyone else even though she just wants to live a normal daily life. This is a story about people's expectations. It's a story about archetypes cranked up to 11. It's a story about two goofballs who should just get together already, goddammit. It's a story where every character is at least fun if not fantastic(outside of one glaring exception), and as far as comedy goes, it tends to nail it far more often than it misses. It's one that makes you want to root for everyone.

Characters from the first couple "arcs"! Every single character is some sort of archetype but dialed way up until the dial snapped off, but most are still great!

Komi-san - the main character, who has severe trouble talking to people, often freezing up entirely or having to communicate almost exclusively via writing on a notebook. She is seen as an icon of beauty and perfection by other people, but she just wants to make friends and be normal. A good example of the "cool beauty" archetype. Fairly rarely seen in her beautiful "normal" form, most often seen as, well,


Tadano - The everyman. The one so normal and standard he's practically invisible. But he's pretty good at reading people, and helps Komi-san with her people trouble when he can. A good if a tad oblivious dude.


Najimi - Queen/king of best friends and is EVERYONE'S childhood friend. Also the chief mischief maker. Last name might as well be Shenanigans.


Yamai - Yandere stalker. Literally such a terrible and creepy character I almost stopped reading the series due to her but was encouraged to push past the few chapters early on that focused on her since she's mostly a bit character past her introduction. I'll say it too: make it past her poo poo, it's short and the rest of the series is worth it.


Yadano - competitive at EVERYTHING.


Agari - Socially inept(not as bad as komi) but switches into analytical genius mode when talking about food.


and many more. Komi wants a hundred friends, after all!

And now, the rest of the post is more cute komi pictures.




ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Captain Invictus posted:

Kengan Ashua is definitely on my list of series to read at some point. People keep posting great pages from it around ADTRW, or did for a while at least.

Here's a good little 4koma series, I'll just copy/paste the OP I made for it here. I didn't put it in the OP but the Yamai chapters you can skip are 23-26, they're extremely bad and the series never pulls that poo poo again likely due to an editor telling them to knock it the gently caress off.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3857861

I'm really enjoying this, and the Yamai chapters aren't that awful because they come off as a bad parody of a psychological thriller. If the artist meant them to be serious... well, yeah, they're bad. And like you said, they're over quickly.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Oh cool, I was totally expecting my post to be taken apart and reworked like it was a bad essay.

Okay, so I've got some more stuff now that's more chill*.

*Mostly.

Ore Monogatari!! Comedy, Romance, School Life, Shoujo

Tsuyoshi Takeo is a freshman in high school. (Both estimates) Weight: 120kg, Height: 2 meters. He spends his days peacefully with his super-popular-with-girls, yet insensitive childhood friend, Sunagawa. One morning, on the train to school, Takeo saves a girl, Yamato, from being molested by a pervert. Could this be the beginning of spring for Takeo?

Now, I know you're already starting to tune out after reading that, but don't. Takeo's a stand up dude with bad luck.









Like, afterwards they go to return her phone and he tries playing wingman because he thinks she's got a crush on his friend- as has always been the case in the past- and he's a cool dude like that. Still oblivious though. She asks for his email address and he's still sure she's got a crush on his friend.





It also has an anime which I'd recommend watching, since the art's not exactly Redline and the action flows a lot better in it too. But I'm not really sure where to look. I guess Crunchyroll but if there's a better place then I dunno. http://www.crunchyroll.com/my-love-story



Flying Witch Comedy, Shounen, Slice of Life

Kowata Makoto is an airhead with a bad sense of direction who just moved into her relative's house... but is that all?

Flying Witch is just a chill series about a family hanging out together.









Scroll down before mousing over that. The only catch is that one of them's a witch and she keeps bringing her weird magical nonsense into the mix. It's a relaxed series that's basically like Stardew Valley without the mines. As far as I got, there was no demon or rival or monster they had to train to beat, it was just family hanging out.




Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
MAGICIAN'S RED

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I actually recommended Flying Witch a few years back. It's very good, and still is.

But apparently nobody ever recommended Ore Monogatari/My Love Story in this thread at all? What the hell? I must have thought I already recommended it because it's super good and cute. It totally trashes a lot of typical shojo/romcom tropes by just playing it straight most of the time. I kinda fell off of it after 5 or so volumes iirc but at least to that point it was still fantastic, and I can only imagine the totally pure duo's adventures in salaciousness like holding hands continue with great results

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Five plus volumes seems like it would be stretching the premise a bit thin.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It's not just the two of them, of course. After all, they get together basically right away, so they have to do something else! So it starts to explore other characters, which is mostly good.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
On the upswing then, it does sound refreshing to have a series that doesn't do Jim and Pam for the entire length.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

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RareAcumen posted:

I'm sure someone will swoop in to properly apply links to this afterwards but here're a couple of my recommendations.

Have you heard of Kenshiro?



This is not him, though I can understand getting confused by the resemblance.


Super Doctor K Action, Drama, Shounen




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFvOwyIzGN8&t=203s

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

The Inuyashiki live action movie is opening here in New Zealand this week, for some reason.
Is that any sort of good thing?

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I've been eyeing it since it's actually get published here. I like the concept and the art, but it's by the Gantz mangaka and I think that didn't end up very well and it seems this one didn't either so I'm wary.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Most live action anime adaptations are terrible trash. I'm pretty sure the genuinely good examples can be counted on one hand.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009

Captain Invictus posted:

Most live action anime adaptations are terrible trash. I'm pretty sure the genuinely good examples can be counted on one hand.

Has there ever been a genuinely good one? Honest question. I certainly can't think of any offhand.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Yeah. Speed Racer!

There are several positive reviews of Miike's Jojo movie on Letterboxd, and someone just said it was actually good in the Phiz movie thread, so I've grown optimistic for it.

Can't be worse than his Terra Formars movie.

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Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009

Teenage Fansub posted:

There are several positive reviews of Miike's Jojo movie on Letterboxd, and someone just said it was actually good in the Phiz movie thread, so I've grown optimistic for it.

Wait, what the gently caress? When did this happen?? I had no idea this was a thing!

If anyone can pull off a good adaptation, Miike is at the top of my short list, since he directed what is unquestionably the best video game adaptation ever made.

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