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Nerds' obsession with canonicity just goes back to the core nerd problem: they've made pop culture esoterica core to their personality, and any attack on that stuff is perceived as a personal attack. When something stops being canon, it's someone with more power saying that they didn't like the stories you "liked" and that they have something better in mind. Whether you actually liked the now non-canonical stories is immaterial, but just knowing about it is something that you take very seriously. It's why you need a better way of thinking about fiction than "did I like it?" or "did everyone else like it?", because then you have nothing to talk about and you have to invent these nonsense categories to even have something worth discussing.
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Based on nothing more than reading those passages you've quoted, Titus Groan strikes me as little more than a neoliberal shriek against anything not petty-bourgeoisie, as reactionary in its contempt for "the stupids" as a Godard.
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CountFosco posted:Based on nothing more than reading those passages you've quoted, Titus Groan strikes me as little more than a neoliberal shriek against anything not petty-bourgeoisie, as reactionary in its contempt for "the stupids" as a Godard. lol
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Mar 27, 2018 11:17
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CountFosco out of freaking nowhere!!!!
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Titus Groan is full of great description with a huge focus on light and shadow, but all the characters are monty python skits without punchlines.
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Mar 27, 2018 21:57
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So Monty Python skits then
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BananaNutkins posted:Titus Groan is full of great description with a huge focus on light and shadow, but all the characters are monty python skits without punchlines. i havent read titus groan but everything i've ever seen you post has been wrong so this is actually a glowing recommendation chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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Mar 27, 2018 23:07
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Have you any interest in reading Gene Wolfe?
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i really enjoyed gormenghast but have struggled getting into titus groan because i get bogged down with the professors, i feel like they're hilarious satire of a society that i have no familiarity with and can't understand or appreciate (english academia; whereas i know enough about english nobility by osmosis to be entertained by the satire in the first book). i'll keep trying though.
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Mar 28, 2018 05:12
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Titus Groan is actually the first book.
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Mar 28, 2018 06:04
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oh lol sorry, i have the anthology so i got confused
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Mar 28, 2018 08:26
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i understand that if i can't keep the titles straight then i probably don't have the intellectual rigor to appreciate the work
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Mar 28, 2018 08:33
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This is now my official Star Wars canon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4N-R-vpCAs.
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Mar 28, 2018 13:45
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I like to read books that are bad for entertainment. I like to read books that are good so I can think about Things. Everyone should enjoy some books.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I like to read books that are bad for entertainment. I like to read books that are good so I can think about Things. Everyone should enjoy some books. thanks for weighing in, buddy
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chernobyl kinsman posted:thanks for weighing in, buddy You're welcome. I was worried that the first sentence might upset some, but I'm glad it didn't.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I like to read books that are bad for entertainment. I like to read books that are good so I can think about Things. Everyone should enjoy some books. Mods?!?
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Mar 31, 2018 03:13
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Just LMAO if you have ever wasted your time reading anything worse than Under the Volcano.
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Mar 31, 2018 05:25
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please goldmine this thread as soon as the terry goodkind/david eddings post hits thanks
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May 25, 2018 01:59
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Brinner posted:please goldmine this thread as soon as the terry goodkind/david eddings post hits thanks Low hanging fruit.
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i dunno. goodkind is a special kind of awful. his books are obvious choices but the criticisms wouldn't be the generic ones that apply to every tedious fantasy epic.
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Goodkind and Eddings are dead horses. Our dear lamp isn't interested in redundancy.
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I tried reading Pillars of Creation thinking it would be dumb generic fantasy with lots of action or something. It was just a lot of talking and philosophy with very little description and the font was like size 36 as if to make up for it. Maybe I got the old man special edition. I was younger and less forgiving of bad prose back then, but I remember thinking that if Dan Brown wrote epic fantasy, forgot he was writing fantasy, and started penning a dirty love letter to Ayn Rand, this is what it would read like. MartingaleJack fucked around with this message at 06:47 on May 25, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 06:32
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Terry Badkind.
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Badmean.
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The irony of thinking botl only makes fun of bad fantasy instead of embracing the universal truth that all fantasy is bad
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Goodkind and Eddings are dead horses. Our dear lamp isn't interested in redundancy. Whenever you see usual suspects like Goodkind or Ernest Cline get pilloried, all you have to remember is that it's 99% at the hands of people who will recommend A Song of Ice and Fire or The Dresden Files as alternatives. It's really an exercise to distract from the fact that they're not reading anything good. No joke, the goon behind the RPO rewrite project recommended The Dresden Files as a model of good prose. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 21:12 on May 25, 2018 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Whenever you see usual suspects like Goodkind or Ernest Cline get pilloried, all you have to remember is that it's 99% at the hands of people who will recommend A Song of Ice and Fire or The Dresden Files as alternatives. It's really an exercise to distract from the fact that they're not reading anything good. So essentially you're saying that all bad things are equally bad?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Whenever you see usual suspects like Goodkind or Ernest Cline get pilloried, all you have to remember is that it's 99% at the hands of people who will recommend A Song of Ice and Fire or The Dresden Files as alternatives. It's really an exercise to distract from the fact that they're not reading anything good. the title of the YA thread on this very forum has been a jab at Twilight since whenever Twilight was still relevant for this exact reason
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May 26, 2018 01:28
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I love that the idea that YA books are for kids has become a hot take.
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we live in a fallen age
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CountFosco posted:Based on nothing more than reading those passages you've quoted, Titus Groan strikes me as little more than a neoliberal shriek against anything not petty-bourgeoisie, as reactionary in its contempt for "the stupids" as a Godard. i just want to say, i unironically appreciate your effort to direct the same level of sneering shitposting at something BotL likes as he does at well pretty much everything
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I unironically appreciate trying to own Mervyn Peake for being a neoliberal.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:the title of the YA thread on this very forum has been a jab at Twilight since whenever Twilight was still relevant for this exact reason it's a very funny title that im glad of
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:So essentially you're saying that all bad things are equally bad? "Why read The Wheel of Time when you could read a good book?" has the same answer as "Why read The Dresden Files...?"
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Wow BotL really can't go a day without being probated. I hope he's spending some of this time working on more book takedowns.
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Crimpolioni posted:it's a very funny title that im glad of it's not funny; it's actually very sad, because it represents a bunch of adults who read children's books and yet try to cultivate a sense of superiority because they don't read a particular children's book
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chernobyl kinsman posted:it's not funny; it's actually very sad, because it represents a bunch of adults who read children's books and yet try to cultivate a sense of superiority because they don't read a particular children's book well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on whether this very funny scenario is funny or not i suppose
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chernobyl kinsman posted:it's not funny; it's actually very sad, because it represents a bunch of adults who read children's books and yet try to cultivate a sense of superiority because they don't read a particular children's book EDIT: Like it's the book version of comfort food. Who cares? PetraCore fucked around with this message at 00:33 on May 29, 2018 |
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I mean I guess my issue with YA is that I have yet to find a YA book that handles a topic or theme better than an adult book and so for me its like "why bother"
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