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Raccooon posted:Yeah that would actually be a cool movie. I did like the end with Qira, because it was somewhat ambiguous. Like she def wants that power but it also looked like she had to take it to protect Han. Lots of fun stuff you could do with Crimson Dawn moving forward. For all it's obvious flaws, you can't say Solo doesn't bring new things to the table. It does some world building to get things past lightside/darkside rebellion/empire retreading. - The crime syndicates actually get expanded upon and you see their effects on those caught in their path. Qira is likely on a righteous quest to end one of those syndicates. - A major character meaningfully advocates for droids' rights. They could easily  L3 back into existence to pursue that further.- Chewie's planet has been enslaved and scattered to the wind, and he wants to free them, sounds like a good Solo sequel to me. -
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May 29, 2018 00:04
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Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. They both kicked rear end.
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May 29, 2018 00:04
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Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. they're both flawed but interesting enough that i can mostly overlook 'em
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May 29, 2018 00:07
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Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. I liked Rogue One a lot. I like parts of Last Jedi didn't hate it just would have like some changes to it. That throne room scene is one of the coolest scenes in all of Star Wars. Kylo and Rey stuff was really good. Mainly I would have just cut almost all of Finn's stuff because it felt like pointless screen time. Also cut the yo mama joke.
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May 29, 2018 00:08
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PostNouveau posted:It's not a trainwreck, it's meh and very, very predictable. It is absolutely a trainwreck and boring. There’s even a literal boring trainwreck in the film itself. The fact that fans are largely okay with Solo points to astonishingly low standards so long as they feel they are being catered to.
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May 29, 2018 00:09
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Rogue One was watchable. I am excitedly waiting for a Jek Porkins movie though.
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May 29, 2018 00:10
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Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. Yeah, they're the good ones. The Disney Star Warses are batting .500
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May 29, 2018 00:13
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CelticPredator posted:I’m dubious of Kennedy now tbh. I think she’s cool but some of these choices are just baffling. They seem so afraid of allowing Star Wars to be anything other than a prestige picture. And their rushed productions and weird ways of creating them (writing TLJ when TFA is still being edited/shooting). Just because you don't pay attention to or have any personal interest in any of the side projects or TV shows doesn't mean she's afraid to make SWars anything but a prestige picture. They've done quite a few things with the franchise since she's been at the helm.
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May 29, 2018 00:13
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Raccooon posted:Whats with all the hate at Kennedy? I saw some but haven't followed the controversy closely. Is it just she is a woman and runs Lucasfilm? It's exactly that. I rarely see criticism of her that isn't sexist or misogynistic in nature. They don't like JJ or Rian either but they're going to hate any man who works for a woman hashtag cucked. They also hated Lucas. Like who could run Lucasfilm that they wouldn't hate? These fans are never going to be satisfied because you can never be a kid again and experience Star Wars the way you first did. It's not for them anymore, if it ever was, and they can't accept that so they will blame whomever they can. Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi is legit my second favorite of the series after Empire. I like Rogue One well enough. clown shoes fucked around with this message at 00:19 on May 29, 2018 |
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May 29, 2018 00:16
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clown shoes posted:It's exactly that. I rarely see criticism of her that isn't sexist or misogynistic in nature. They don't like JJ or Rian either but they're going to hate any man who works for a woman hashtag cucked. They also hated Lucas. Like who could run Lucasfilm that they wouldn't hate? These fans are never going to be satisfied because you can never be a kid again and experience Star Wars the way you first did. It's not for them anymore, if it ever was, and they can't accept that so they will blame whomever they can. It so loving weird. I know anti-feminism has been a thing for a long time. But, there was a major change around 2013-2014. Like, a milder anger turned into rage.
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May 29, 2018 00:20
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It is absolutely a trainwreck and boring. There’s even a literal boring trainwreck in the film itself. I wouldn't say it's boring. Predictable, but it zips along.
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May 29, 2018 00:22
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AndyElusive posted:Just because you don't pay attention to or have any personal interest in any of the side projects or TV shows doesn't mean she's afraid to make SWars anything but a prestige picture. They've done quite a few things with the franchise since she's been at the helm. Han Solo could’ve been a silly fun adventure movie but instead became a bland ugly drab mediocre product.
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May 29, 2018 00:23
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Hollismason posted:Also I guess I am sort of in the minority because I really liked Rogue One and The Last Jedi. Nah man, I'm with you on that one. Though, us and many others appear to share astonishingly low standards compared to the enlightened connoisseurs of exquisite science fantasy cinema here in CD.
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May 29, 2018 00:26
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CelticPredator posted:Han Solo could’ve been a silly fun adventure movie but instead became a bland ugly drab mediocre product. I feel like you need to talk to the projectionist or something...I never found Solo to be drab; and "a fun adventure or romp" is how I've been describing Solo to everyone
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May 29, 2018 00:27
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CelticPredator posted:Han Solo could’ve been a silly fun adventure movie but instead became a bland ugly drab mediocre product. That's not really a response to what I said, but I hear what you're saying. I just don't agree with you. I'm not ever going to say any Star Wars movie is perfect and outside the realm of criticism though.
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May 29, 2018 00:29
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people have been reporting how dark it was, so it wasn’t just me.
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May 29, 2018 00:29
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AndyElusive posted:That's not really a response to what I said, but I hear what you're saying. I just don't agree with you. I'm not ever going to say any Star Wars movie is perfect and outside the realm of criticism though. I don’t know what you were saying then. I have no interest in the TV shows or books. It’s just the movies I’m going to look at, and while I think TFA is fun and TLJ is incredible...I have this sinking feeling that it isn’t working out too well. Like at the end of all this, I don’t think it’ll be remembered fondly as a high point in Star Wars. Which is a bit of a downer.
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May 29, 2018 00:30
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CelticPredator posted:I don’t know what you were saying then. I have no interest in the TV shows or books. It’s just the movies I’m going to look at, and while I think TFA is fun and TLJ is incredible...I have this sinking feeling that it isn’t working out too well. Like at the end of all this, I don’t think it’ll be remembered fondly as a high point in Star Wars. I was trying to convey that Star Wars is more than just a movie franchise and that it has been for a long time now. Your perception of the brand and how it's doing or where it's going is based on a single, but inarguably large facet of it. Regardless of what you actually want to pay attention to with the Star Wars logo plastered on it or not.
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May 29, 2018 00:36
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I liked Last Jedi but thought Rogue One was trash. The sequel trilogy is flawed but they have likable characters which is enough for me to get a pass. Rogue One had too many nothing unlikable characters. Solo faired a little better in the character department but was still lacking.
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May 29, 2018 00:39
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I took my kid to see it and the only part he remembers is Darth Maul force grabbing and igniting his light saber. Maybe that should have been the movie. But seriously, can someone please connect the dots between Obiwan chopping him in half and him being a crime syndicate boss then getting shanked by Obi on Tatooine.
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May 29, 2018 00:45
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gohmak posted:I took my kid to see it and the only part he remembers is Darth Maul force grabbing and igniting his light saber. Maybe that should have been the movie. But seriously, can someone please connect the dots between Obiwan chopping him in half and him being a crime syndicate boss then getting shanked by Obi on Tatooine. he basically kept himself alive out of pure spite and crawled out of Naboo and got robo legs and slight revenge on Kenobi for chopping him in half and Palpatine for abandoning him and replacing him. To that end, he takes over or eliminates some crime syndicates to basically give himself some power he can wield against Palpatine
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May 29, 2018 00:48
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I want a starwars horror movie.
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banned from Starbucks posted:I want a starwars horror movie. Han Solo fights zombies on a star destroyer. That books exists. It is Death Troopers enjoy.
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May 29, 2018 01:02
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Patch Radical posted:Is it weird that I'm actually more interested in seeing this now? Like mediocre predictable garbage left me cold, but a full on trainwreck curio has my attention. The movie is mediocre and predictable. It’s less ambitious in scope than a CW show.
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May 29, 2018 01:07
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feedmyleg posted:Solo being a $40million low-key, single-town Western would have been great. Han Solo spending half his time in drinking establishments, the stakes were small, and the big show-down at the end of the film is a high-noon duel? That'd be fantastic compared to what we got, yeah. The Disney streaming service would be a nice place for films of this scope from both Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios, but unfortunately, there haven't been any reports to that effect just yet.
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May 29, 2018 01:08
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Raccooon posted:Han Solo fights zombies on a star destroyer. The sequel, Red Harvest, is better because it has a Jedi (not Qui-Gon) recite Liam Neeson's "I have a particular set of skills ..." speech from Taken. I when I say better, I mean god awful
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Davros1 posted:The sequel, Red Harvest, is better because it has a Jedi (not Qui-Gon) recite Liam Neeson's "I have a particular set of skills ..." speech from Taken. Lamo. Holy poo poo I didn't realize there was a sequel
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May 29, 2018 01:12
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Raccooon posted:Lamo. Holy poo poo I didn't realize there was a sequel Don't worry, you didn't miss anything, there isn't. It's a prequel. Because if there's one thing with a proven track record in Star Wars, it's prequels.
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May 29, 2018 01:24
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Timby posted:Hm, yes, The Last Jedi, the movie that had that awful CinemaScore of ... oh, A? The same as Force Awakens? Wow, fancy that. Solo also has an A. The prequels had As. CinemaScore is such a useless metric.
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May 29, 2018 01:50
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I thought rogue one was good, in my opinion. So in the new movie did they try to explain what hyperspace fuel is?
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May 29, 2018 01:51
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Batman v Superman was a B and was a box office success so im not sure why people didn’t turn out to see justice league
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Tenzarin posted:I thought rogue one was good, in my opinion. So in the new movie did they try to explain what hyperspace fuel is? What explanation is needed other than what is obvious from the name?
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May 29, 2018 01:56
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Tenzarin posted:I thought rogue one was good, in my opinion. So in the new movie did they try to explain what hyperspace fuel is? Yeah it's refined unobtainium
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Milky Moor posted:Solo also has an A. The prequels had As. Most people loved the prequels. They were all box office successes too. Mandrel posted:Batman v Superman was a B and was a box office success so im not sure why people didn’t turn out to see justice league Man of Steel before it had A-. It's fair to say this is why many watched BvS. I think JL's problem might be WB keep telling people that the movie will be different than MoS and BvS which is actually a turn off.
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Saw this today and was really entertained. Given everything that happened I expected it to be bad and hate it, but I thought it was a fun movie. There’s not really a point to it and I feel no need to watch it again but at no point did I regret going to see it. I was REALLY surprised by Ehrenreich. I thought he killed it. They killed this by releasing it on Memorial Day weekend. I don’t think it’s a Star Wars backlash at all. It’s a stand-alone movie that was never going to have the appeal of an episodic Star Wars movie and they released it on a weekend where people had other poo poo to do.
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Well I see why Ehrenreich needed that acting coach. He somehow puts the emphasis on the wrong part of every. single. line. It was hard to watch. I disagree with the countless reviewers who said he bears no resemblance to young Harrison Ford though. He's clearly trying his absolutest hardest to imitate Ford's performance. He's just terrible at it. He was great in Hail Ceasar! so idk what happened here.
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friendly 2 da void posted:Well I see why Ehrenreich needed that acting coach. He somehow puts the emphasis on the wrong part of every. single. line. It was hard to watch. The Coens know how to direct actors
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friendly 2 da void posted:I disagree with the countless reviewers who said he bears no resemblance to young Harrison Ford though. He's clearly trying his absolutest hardest to imitate Ford's performance. He's just terrible at it. He was great in Hail Ceasar! so idk what happened here. what happened is they told him to imitate harrison ford
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sportsgenius86 posted:There’s not really a point to it I think this was actually the biggest factor hurting it at the box office, though. Rogue One had its problems and didn't need to exist, either, but at least that addressed an underexplored plot point from the very first lines of the Episode IV title crawl, and at least it was primarily centered around new characters. Han Solo, though? He's an archetypal "dashing scoundrel with a heart of gold" character that's been done many times before and since 1977. Not that there's anything wrong with him being an archetype - he's one of the very best examples of it - but no one except possibly Lawrence Kasdan thought he needed an origin story, and there was no way to sell it as anything but superfluous.
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