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Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Waxmetal posted:

I'm getting extremely sick of seeing this. There is nothing "haram" about dogs. No animal is haram, and Islam teaches that all animals perfectly obey God simply by being themselves. It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house, and certain legal schools argue that touching dogs nullifies your ritual purity (required for prayer, but can be regained with 30 seconds of washing) but dogs are not haram. The Qur'an itself specifically allows for Muslims to eat what their hunting dogs bring them and tells of righteous sleepers in a cave who are guarded by their dog. One of the most famous stories in the corpus of prophetic traditions is about a prostitute who earns Paradise solely for giving water to a thirsty dog. It is permissible to kill rabid or otherwise dangerous dogs, which nearly every society does.

Please stop spreading misinformation about my already constantly poo poo on religion. Dogs are extremely blessed. Salam.



this is awesome

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Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


where do i sign up

Kyron
Aug 6, 2013

Blast of Confetti posted:



where do i sign up

That's one hell of a recruitment poster

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Waxmetal posted:

I'm getting extremely sick of seeing this. There is nothing "haram" about dogs. No animal is haram, and Islam teaches that all animals perfectly obey God simply by being themselves. It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house, and certain legal schools argue that touching dogs nullifies your ritual purity (required for prayer, but can be regained with 30 seconds of washing) but dogs are not haram. The Qur'an itself specifically allows for Muslims to eat what their hunting dogs bring them and tells of righteous sleepers in a cave who are guarded by their dog. One of the most famous stories in the corpus of prophetic traditions is about a prostitute who earns Paradise solely for giving water to a thirsty dog. It is permissible to kill rabid or otherwise dangerous dogs, which nearly every society does.

Please stop spreading misinformation about my already constantly poo poo on religion. Dogs are extremely blessed. Salam.



:hmmyes:

Skeleton Ape
Dec 21, 2008



That guy is actually very religious but he is not muslim, it is a special internet religion where you must post "dogs are haram" any time a dog shows up in GBS. And then everyone has to pay attention to him

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Waxmetal posted:

I'm getting extremely sick of seeing this. There is nothing "haram" about dogs. No animal is haram, and Islam teaches that all animals perfectly obey God simply by being themselves. It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house, and certain legal schools argue that touching dogs nullifies your ritual purity (required for prayer, but can be regained with 30 seconds of washing) but dogs are not haram. The Qur'an itself specifically allows for Muslims to eat what their hunting dogs bring them and tells of righteous sleepers in a cave who are guarded by their dog. One of the most famous stories in the corpus of prophetic traditions is about a prostitute who earns Paradise solely for giving water to a thirsty dog. It is permissible to kill rabid or otherwise dangerous dogs, which nearly every society does.

Please stop spreading misinformation about my already constantly poo poo on religion. Dogs are extremely blessed. Salam.



People understand what haram is as opposed to najis and various hadith allow for keeping hunting and farming dogs while pointing out they are otherwise unclean

Ibn Mughaffal reported:

The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to keep a dog, unless he needs this dog for hunting, guarding livestock or guarding crops.  

Al-Bukhaari (2145) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, a qiraat from his good deeds will be deducted every day, except a dog for farming or herding livestock.” 

Muslim (2978) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog that is not a dog for hunting, herding livestock or farming, two qiraats will be deducted from his reward each day.” 

Muslim (2943) narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding livestock or a dog for hunting, a qiraat will be deducted from his good deeds each day.” ‘Abd-Allaah said: Abu Hurayrah said: Or a dog for farming. 

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: This hadeeth shows that it is permissible to keep a dog for hunting and herding livestock, and also for farming. 

Ibn Maajah (3640) narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or an image.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah. 

These ahaadeeth indicate that it is haraam to keep a dog, except for those which were exempted by the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

 The scholars differed as to how to reconcile between the reports which speak of one qiraat being deducted and those which speak of two qiraats being deducted. 

It was said that two qiraats will be deducted if the dog is more harmful and one qiraat will be deducted if it is less so. 

And it was said that that at first the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that one qiraat would be deducted, then the punishment was increased after that, so he said that two qiraats would be deducted in order to put people off from keeping dogs even more. 

The qiraat is an amount that is known to Allaah, may He be exalted, and what is meant is that some of the reward for a person’s good deeds will be deducted. 

See Sharh Muslim by al-Nawawi, 10/342; Fath al-Baari, 5/9 

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said in Sharh Riyaadh al-Saaliheen, 4/241: 

With regard to keeping dogs, this is haraam and is in fact a major sin, because the one who keeps a dog, except those for which an exception has been made, will have two qiraats deducted from his reward every day. 

It is by the wisdom of Allaah that like calls to like and evil calls to evil. It is said that the kaafirs, Jews, Christians and communists in the east and the west all keep dogs, Allaah forbid. Each one takes his dog with him and cleans it every day with soap and other cleansing agents. But even if he were to clean it with the water of all the seas in the world and all the soap in the world, it would never become pure! Because its impurity is inherent, and inherent impurity cannot be cleansed except by destroying it and erasing it altogether. 

pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!
For fucks sake, just say "I like cats."

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

i've heard of soft water, but this is ridiculous

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

pseudosavior posted:

For fucks sake, just say "I like cats."

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem
Well Islam is officially garbage.

Thanks for making me racist Blue Train.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
they hate us for our felines

Fantastic Flyer
Aug 9, 2017
lmao do you have that saved in a Word document? How long have you been waiting to drop it when someone got sick of your gimmick?

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem
Taking care of a happy creature of love will send you to hell - a just and good God.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Waxmetal posted:

I'm getting extremely sick of seeing this. There is nothing "haram" about dogs. No animal is haram, and Islam teaches that all animals perfectly obey God simply by being themselves. It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house, and certain legal schools argue that touching dogs nullifies your ritual purity (required for prayer, but can be regained with 30 seconds of washing) but dogs are not haram. The Qur'an itself specifically allows for Muslims to eat what their hunting dogs bring them and tells of righteous sleepers in a cave who are guarded by their dog. One of the most famous stories in the corpus of prophetic traditions is about a prostitute who earns Paradise solely for giving water to a thirsty dog. It is permissible to kill rabid or otherwise dangerous dogs, which nearly every society does.

Please stop spreading misinformation about my already constantly poo poo on religion. Dogs are extremely blessed. Salam.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjjmNtPT54

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Fantastic Flyer posted:

lmao do you have that saved in a Word document? How long have you been waiting to drop it when someone got sick of your gimmick?

There's a world of information at your fingertips with the internet!

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Mozi posted:

they hate us for our felines

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mozi posted:

i've heard of soft water, but this is ridiculous

i liked this

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Blue Train posted:

They're extremely haram

To eat or to pet?

Waxmetal posted:

I'm getting extremely sick of seeing this. There is nothing "haram" about dogs. No animal is haram, and Islam teaches that all animals perfectly obey God simply by being themselves. It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house, and certain legal schools argue that touching dogs nullifies your ritual purity (required for prayer, but can be regained with 30 seconds of washing) but dogs are not haram. The Qur'an itself specifically allows for Muslims to eat what their hunting dogs bring them and tells of righteous sleepers in a cave who are guarded by their dog. One of the most famous stories in the corpus of prophetic traditions is about a prostitute who earns Paradise solely for giving water to a thirsty dog. It is permissible to kill rabid or otherwise dangerous dogs, which nearly every society does.

Please stop spreading misinformation about my already constantly poo poo on religion. Dogs are extremely blessed. Salam.



Well that settles that, this is the only juror I need to hear, dogs are cool but sometimes do gross or stupid things.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Cats are unclean. Suffer not a cat to live.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

If dogs aren't unclean then why aren't they allowed to sit at the dinner table with the rest of the family?

And don't say it's because they're bad at using cutlery. They just don't get enough practice. And it's exactly because YOU WONT LET MR. SNUFFLES SIT AT THE loving TABLE, BRENDA

Waxmetal
Aug 8, 2005

Our final hero.

Blue Train posted:

There's a world of information at your fingertips with the internet!

Follow around the president for a year and quote him without context and you'll wind up in a world of poo poo. The hadith work the same way. It's unsurprising that historically people felt it was cruel or harmful to keep dogs for no reason, but the debate is renewed today now that we don't live in huts in the boiling hot desert, have animal vaccinations, have renewed our analysis of the validity of the hadith corpus, and so on. That's how a complicated legal system like the sharia works. Anyway, I'm not here to derail this dope thread. Dogs still rule and my dogs rule and my imam's dogs rule and all dogs rule and if we can agree on that then we've got no beef (until after sunset - it's Ramadan).

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Waxmetal posted:

Follow around the president for a year and quote him without context and you'll wind up in a world of poo poo. The hadith work the same way. It's unsurprising that historically people felt it was cruel or harmful to keep dogs for no reason, but the debate is renewed today now that we don't live in huts in the boiling hot desert, have animal vaccinations, have renewed our analysis of the validity of the hadith corpus, and so on. That's how a complicated legal system like the sharia works. Anyway, I'm not here to derail this dope thread. Dogs still rule and my dogs rule and my imam's dogs rule and all dogs rule and if we can agree on that then we've got no beef (until after sunset - it's Ramadan).

No worries friend

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Picnic Princess posted:

If dogs aren't unclean then why aren't they allowed to sit at the dinner table with the rest of the family?

And don't say it's because they're bad at using cutlery. They just don't get enough practice. And it's exactly because YOU WONT LET MR. SNUFFLES SIT AT THE loving TABLE, BRENDA

Dogs should never be allowed at the dinner table. Cats are perfectly fine. Be cause they have.....eticat.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Waxmetal posted:

It is not recommended to pray with a dog in your house...

Why is that? Would it be considered not taking the payers seriously if a dog was allowed to be present? Or simply that prayer should only be attended by humans?

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Solice Kirsk posted:

Dogs should never be allowed at the dinner table. Cats are perfectly fine. Be cause they have.....eticat.

That was a doggone good joke there.

naem
May 29, 2011

Blast of Confetti posted:



where do i sign up

:black101:

Waxmetal
Aug 8, 2005

Our final hero.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Why is that? Would it be considered not taking the payers seriously if a dog was allowed to be present? Or simply that prayer should only be attended by humans?

There's a hadith that says angels won't come into a house with a dog or an image, but if that were true the angel of death would be stuck at the door and we could all live forever. Even as early as the eighth century you find people trying to explain this away, but it seems insurmountable to a lot of people, which is why in practice a lot more Muslims have dogs than fatwas by old grumps would have you believe. Some of the narrators of the anti-dog hadith were super anti-dog in general, so there's a lot of suspicion. Hadith are fun like that.

I'm done derailing now though, cause we all agree we love dogs, and literally everyone cares more about that than blabbing about religion in a thread about great pics.

Edit: Hell is being the guy who posts about religion on a comedy forum.

Waxmetal fucked around with this message at 02:58 on May 30, 2018

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Charlie Sheen does this on an hourly basis.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Bogus Adventure posted:

Charlie Sheen does this on an hourly basis.

That is qa testing airflow on Sheen's new custom coke straw.

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

pseudosavior posted:

For fucks sake, just say "I like cats." "I'm brain damaged"

Farmer Jimbo
Mar 11, 2005

CC Plox.

Blue Train posted:

People understand what haram is as opposed to najis and various hadith allow for keeping hunting and farming dogs while pointing out they are otherwise unclean

Ibn Mughaffal reported:

The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to keep a dog, unless he needs this dog for hunting, guarding livestock or guarding crops.  

Al-Bukhaari (2145) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, a qiraat from his good deeds will be deducted every day, except a dog for farming or herding livestock.” 

Muslim (2978) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog that is not a dog for hunting, herding livestock or farming, two qiraats will be deducted from his reward each day.” 

Muslim (2943) narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding livestock or a dog for hunting, a qiraat will be deducted from his good deeds each day.” ‘Abd-Allaah said: Abu Hurayrah said: Or a dog for farming. 

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: This hadeeth shows that it is permissible to keep a dog for hunting and herding livestock, and also for farming. 

Ibn Maajah (3640) narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or an image.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah. 

These ahaadeeth indicate that it is haraam to keep a dog, except for those which were exempted by the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

 The scholars differed as to how to reconcile between the reports which speak of one qiraat being deducted and those which speak of two qiraats being deducted. 

It was said that two qiraats will be deducted if the dog is more harmful and one qiraat will be deducted if it is less so. 

And it was said that that at first the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that one qiraat would be deducted, then the punishment was increased after that, so he said that two qiraats would be deducted in order to put people off from keeping dogs even more. 

The qiraat is an amount that is known to Allaah, may He be exalted, and what is meant is that some of the reward for a person’s good deeds will be deducted. 

See Sharh Muslim by al-Nawawi, 10/342; Fath al-Baari, 5/9 

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said in Sharh Riyaadh al-Saaliheen, 4/241: 

With regard to keeping dogs, this is haraam and is in fact a major sin, because the one who keeps a dog, except those for which an exception has been made, will have two qiraats deducted from his reward every day. 

It is by the wisdom of Allaah that like calls to like and evil calls to evil. It is said that the kaafirs, Jews, Christians and communists in the east and the west all keep dogs, Allaah forbid. Each one takes his dog with him and cleans it every day with soap and other cleansing agents. But even if he were to clean it with the water of all the seas in the world and all the soap in the world, it would never become pure! Because its impurity is inherent, and inherent impurity cannot be cleansed except by destroying it and erasing it altogether. 

Sir, this is the :justpost: blessed thread. Perhaps you could take your gimmick elsewhere? Or perhaps post blurry pictures of your penis again? Idk, sorta brainstormin right now.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Glad to see you still thinking about my dick

Salty Josh
Jul 13, 2016

Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in.
Nap Ghost

Blue Train posted:

Glad to see you still thinking about my dick

When you got it, you got it.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

:)

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Less shitposting, more pics.

https://twitter.com/StrangeCoisas/status/1001596301937729536

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

everyones got that brain bug buddy

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

itt post fbi crime statistics and articles about human biodiversity

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012


lmao

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Milo and POTUS posted:

everyones got that brain bug buddy

fuckin toxoplasmosis :argh:

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