|
Kanos posted:Fighting new Norsca with low tier dark elf units is actually extremely rough. Bleakswords and Dreadspears straight up get murdered by Norscan Marauders and it's difficult for Darkshards to provide sufficient support fire because of how powerful their back line pressure is; leaving some spears back to protect the Darkshards is limited in effectiveness because the AI actually uses dogs and marauder horses in concert with each other, so the dogs will munch your spears for lunch while the marauders eat your Darkshards. Makes sense when Norsca beats each other up they eat the other faction and adsorb it in to them. (If the Warriors of Chaos beat them they vassalize them instead.)
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 05:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:36 |
|
|
MonsterEnvy posted:Makes sense when Norsca beats each other up they eat the other faction and adsorb it in to them. (If the Warriors of Chaos beat them they vassalize them instead.) Nah, they were all still independent tribes that weren't allied or NAPed with each other; they just cascade-declared on me one after another and sailed across the entire ocean to Naggaroth to attack me.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 05:30
|
|
|
Scrub-Niggurath posted:The first Bone Giant (I don’t care what GW renamed them to) I recruit is getting renamed Hawkeye Gough immediately
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 05:32
|
|
|
They are just Bone Giants it appears.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 05:37
|
|
|
MonsterEnvy posted:They are just Bone Giants it appears. CA did right by me
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 06:16
|
|
|
Wow, Norsca have all but two climates as Suitable. Desert and magic forest being just Unsuitable.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 07:24
|
|
|
Does norsca still have weak outposts in none-port cities though?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 07:29
|
|
|
Was trying out Alith Anar in Vortex when Tretch and Hellebron declared on me in the same turn. Sent the super assassin from the ritual up to look at Hellebron's stack, then straight assassinated her. They sued for peace on their next turn. 2500 gold well spent I guess!
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 08:58
|
|
|
Norscans still can only make weak outposts in coastal provinces, so the wide climate suitability is not unbalanced. Also the capitals in Norsca only have six building slots. So while they can settle pretty much everywhere, everything except enemy capitals are garbage.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 09:40
|
|
|
I REALLY appreciate Ungrim's new start flat out starting him out with recruitable slayers. Especially when you manage to land an ambush with a 10 slayer stack against chaff greenskins as one of your first major battles 
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 11:11
|
|
|
Goddamn it so many new starts I wanna try.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 11:29
|
|
|
I'm paralyzed... with choice
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 11:51
|
|
|
Gunners seem way better now and I'm happy for that. Is anyone noticing a difference in the model lod? I'm seeing a weird pop in effect that's almost like the different model lods aren't synced right. It seems more obvious than it used to be. Mods disabled and all setting ultra.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 12:08
|
|
|
Franzhappenings: turn 8 and for the first time in however many games Bretonnia didn’t immediately attack the city of Marienburg. My own path to that gleaming prize was waylaid by a big stack of Orcs wandering down from the mountains behind the city - they appear to have a gentleman’s agreement with the citizens so they’re just passing through to try their luck in Reikland and giving me fun non-provincial fights. Meanwhile everyone in the east has lost their poo poo with Manfred already and his new neighbour Ungrim is kicking in his door. An empire campaign I don’t know by heart! A good patch! Additionally, handgunners are frigging murderous again
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 12:17
|
|
|
Hellebrone is fun as hell.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 14:09
|
|
|
Got back into this game after a few months. I've hit a campaign-ending bug about 60 turns in. I can't move any of my units, can't end the turn, can't save. I've tried reloading from earlier in the campaign, and disabling all mods (just a couple tweaks anyway), tried having my units in different places. No matter what, I get the same thing. The ticker in the bottom-right tells me "Lord not moved", but I just can't move my lord at all (Hellebron). I can still access diplomacy, settlement management, everything except this turn's notifications. Is there anything I can do, or is the whole thing just gone?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 15:23
|
|
|
Can you just skip the notification? That's what the arrow to the right of the end turn button does.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 15:39
|
|
|
Ravenfood posted:Can you just skip the notification? That's what the arrow to the right of the end turn button does. No, that's greyed out too, and disabling all notifications the turn before doesn't help either. This seems to be a bug that happens when you get two events on the same turn.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 15:43
|
|
|
Oh god, the patch notes said it but I didn't get just how big of a change it was until I looked at the stats in-game: the Helstorm Rocket Battery is now an armour-piercing anti-infantry artillery piece. This is a terrifyingly Big Deal.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:02
|
|
|
Ravenfood posted:Hellebrone is fun as hell. She seems a little overtuned in multiplayer from what I've seen so far. I watched Turin's tournament from a week or so ago and have played against her a few times and she is extremely difficult to deal with. I don't think I've actually seen her lose a match yet.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:03
|
|
|
Pendent posted:She seems a little overtuned in multiplayer from what I've seen so far. I watched Turin's tournament from a week or so ago and have played against her a few times and she is extremely difficult to deal with. I don't think I've actually seen her lose a match yet. Known issue where she has a ability that curses units that are losing in battle with her for 500 damage over 10 seconds and then the unit is applied a buff that is supposed to block being cursed again for 20 seconds, the problem is that 20 second buff is dealing damage itself, so she charges a unit and counts as "winning" the fight for a half a second and then deals 1500 damage. She will nuke lords and rack up hundreds of fodder unit kills just by hitting them once.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:12
|
|
|
A quality CA release. Have they given an Eta on a fix?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:22
|
|
|
Pendent posted:She seems a little overtuned in multiplayer from what I've seen so far. I watched Turin's tournament from a week or so ago and have played against her a few times and she is extremely difficult to deal with. I don't think I've actually seen her lose a match yet. A little overturned is stretching it, she is absolutely broken. She can rack up hundreds of kills on her own in every battle just by ping-ponging between enemy groups.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:32
|
|
|
Luminous Cow posted:A quality CA release. Have they given an Eta on a fix? They've actually said they're going to hotfix this one but when I checked I didn't see an ETA.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:37
|
|
|
Broken Cog posted:A little overturned is stretching it, she is absolutely broken. I'm terrible at multiplayer so I didn't feel comfortable going that far myself but I do feel the same way, yes.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:44
|
|
|
Krazyface posted:No, that's greyed out too, and disabling all notifications the turn before doesn't help either. This seems to be a bug that happens when you get two events on the same turn. I had this happen with the White Dwarf. I think the fix is to just save the game on the new turn and then restart.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:49
|
|
|
Broken Cog posted:A little overturned is stretching it, she is absolutely broken. I got to hear ninjahund defend it as not broken since he never saw it being broken. When confronted about CA acknowledging it, he still insisted it isn't broken. he then played a dude that said "don't use her sword, it is broken" to which he replied "i don't think it is" and then complained about his opponents cheese build
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 16:58
|
|
|
Made small mod for Norsca, i noticed that their minor settlements don't get a hero commander unit at tier 3 like all other races so i added them back in: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1400103622
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 17:23
|
|
|
Anyone have any hot tips for Hellebron's ME campaign? The initial consolidation of the Dark Elves around you is trivially easy but in each of my attempts so far I've gotten sucked into an eternal hellwar with most of Norsca, who basically sling stacks at my eastern frontier until I get so ground down trying to stop them that I collapse. It's surprisingly hard to build a solid economy as Dark Elves when you need to burn all your slaves constantly instead of stacking them up in a Scrooge McDuck vault in Naggarond.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 17:54
|
|
|
I haven't tried ME with them, but try leaving someone alive to sack and then try sending the blood cruise their way.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 17:58
|
|
|
Anyone know if this huge patch changed anything format wise in the tables? It'd be nice if I didn't have to do too much to update my own personal mods.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 17:59
|
|
|
I started a new campaign as the high-elf sorcerer and got the sword of khaine. I am now charging her into swaths of enemies, and shes coming out with 100+ kills. Feels good. Is there any good AI mods for the world map area?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:01
|
|
|
Anyone gotten far enough with the Sword of Khaine to know what the penalties/bonuses at the high end are?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:02
|
|
|
Third World Reggin posted:I haven't tried ME with them, but try leaving someone alive to sack and then try sending the blood cruise their way. You can't control the murder boat in singleplayer. It just sails off to go burn a random faction in Ulthuan.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:11
|
|
|
Kanos posted:Anyone have any hot tips for Hellebron's ME campaign? The initial consolidation of the Dark Elves around you is trivially easy but in each of my attempts so far I've gotten sucked into an eternal hellwar with most of Norsca, who basically sling stacks at my eastern frontier until I get so ground down trying to stop them that I collapse. It's surprisingly hard to build a solid economy as Dark Elves when you need to burn all your slaves constantly instead of stacking them up in a Scrooge McDuck vault in Naggarond. Always, always take slaves. Every lord rushes for the Slaver upgrade and Hellebron has a unique skill that gives her another +35%. Eventually you get enough that it starts snowballing like a Malekith playthrough, but its definitely harder and you really can't use too many Rites either. I can't make DE assassins work for me at all. Are they good for anything besides maxing their +slave income skill and parking them in a money province? Besides destroying gates, I suppose. Their little crossbow seems to fire flat, has pitiful range, and doesn't murder lords/casters enough. What am I doing wrong?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:12
|
|
|
Gejnor posted:Made small mod for Norsca, i noticed that their minor settlements don't get a hero commander unit at tier 3 like all other races so i added them back in: I really don't think they need it honestly. Their tier 3 minor settlement garrisons are insane compared to the other factions.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:15
|
|
|
Kanos posted:You can't control the murder boat in singleplayer. It just sails off to go burn a random faction in Ulthuan. In vortex, I swear it had a a horde like button to set target when you selected it. And I know that if you declare war on someone, you can ask them to enter it. I swear I got that button to work once.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:16
|
|
|
Ravenfood posted:I can't make DE assassins work for me at all. Are they good for anything besides maxing their +slave income skill and parking them in a money province? Besides destroying gates, I suppose. Their little crossbow seems to fire flat, has pitiful range, and doesn't murder lords/casters enough. What am I doing wrong? iirc they got army vigor reduction and an easy + loyalty for other lords.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:17
|
|
|
Iirc they can do good work in melee, especially vs enemy characters.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:36 |
|
|
Third World Reggin posted:iirc they got army vigor reduction and an easy + loyalty for other lords. Edgar Allen Ho posted:Iirc they can do good work in melee, especially vs enemy characters. e: I don't know if I need one in Hellebron's army, though. Its not like she ever struggles with killing enemy Lords, she's a goddamn menace, even without her bugged weapons. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 1, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2018 18:36
|
|