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emdash posted:no subculture is an island LOST fans.
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May 31, 2018 19:24
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Deviant posted:I've been having a wonderful time annoying the neckbeards on facebook. Hahah that was you? I'm the one that replied right after with the resignation comment. Also this response triggered the gently caress out of this person and they started harassing me through direct message. "“Unless they also begin inviting an MRA gamer or something to counter her, they're biased now and have put politics into their convention.” So unless they invite people who are known to be hateful and misogynistic, they should not invite someone who is known to have opinions against hateful and misogynistic ideas….got it." I just started replying with Mike Pence gifs, and they eventually stopped. enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 31, 2018 |
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May 31, 2018 20:26
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enigmahfc posted:I just started replying with Mike Pence gifs, and they eventually stopped. This reminds me, I think I'm going to bring my "ABORT MIKE PENCE" shirt with me this year.
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May 31, 2018 22:07
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Necronomicon posted:This reminds me, I think I'm going to bring my "ABORT MIKE PENCE" shirt with me this year. Bring extra, I'll buy one
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May 31, 2018 22:33
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Where can you view special guests that come? I've never been able to find it and have missed out on a few in the past I would have liked to see.
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Jun 1, 2018 00:54
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As someone who attends these cons with a wife and several female friends, if inviting her keeps a bunch of creepy red pill weirdos away then I hope it becomes an annual invitation.
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Jun 1, 2018 00:59
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Yeah I basically could not be happier about this, guaranteed to produce at least a modest drop in attendance from the kinds of gamers that kept women from being comfortable being gamers in the first place. I really wish I could understand how the same people can hold the "lol u triggered snowflake get over it" and "how dare you acknowledge feminism I am so offended I am skipping the world's best event as a result" viewpoints simultaneously. Yes I know, cognitive dissonance, but it is still sad.
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Jun 1, 2018 01:23
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Anything that makes it easier to maneuver around rolling suitcases, rascal scooters and waves of B.O. in the dealer hall is fine by me. They could have a Games with Trump event and I'd be fine with it if it drove away the unwashed masses. That said, any events anyone is running or care to recommend to me this year? I decided to go rather late so I'm just looking at event scheduling.
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Jun 1, 2018 01:46
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Slimy Hog posted:Who? And why do people hate her? Some lady who read wikipedia articles detailing obvious repetitious poo poo tropes about women in video games and inserted a tiny bit of her own analysis that sometimes was weak as hell. Nerds went apeshit because her videos had pretty good production quality at the time and youtube is even more reactionary so telling everyone basic stuff like why Princess Peach was the norm pissed them off something fierce. Her time has kinda faded though because people where trying to mine outrage on 4chan but failed. Forget the people not coming, feminism isn't as popular as the internet makes people think it is (look who got elected president), but a lot of smelly necknerds are going to scream liar or nazi or try to make a scene at Gen Con over this; Pizzagate level poo poo. They'll back down when security arrives. I highly doubt this is going to be an epic level poo poo show, but the human zoo is going to be out on display. NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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Jun 1, 2018 03:51
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I just hope there aren't too many bomb threats. I think it's awesome she's coming and pissing off the dregs of Gencon. I'm not even a fan, never watched her stuff beyond a cursory glance, but she's alright in my book now for triggering the chuds.
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Jun 1, 2018 04:07
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:she's alright in my book now for triggering the chuds. Let's be fair here, this is an exceedingly low bar.
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Jun 1, 2018 07:14
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Avenging Dentist posted:Let's be fair here, this is an exceedingly low bar. This is true. Wasn't there an uproar from these types over cosplay is not consent?
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Jun 1, 2018 11:46
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If any of you like cube porn I just got in our first near final prototype copy of Bee Lives and my graphic designer filmed an unboxing video for it last night. This is the same version of the game we're going to have at Gen Con this summer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfjEwaq6YVs
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Jun 1, 2018 15:40
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More content! Here is a post about the growth in number of women game masters at Gen Con over the years that you all might find relevant. http://best50yearsingaming.com/exhibits/show/runninggames/leadinggames
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Jun 1, 2018 21:09
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:This is true. Wasn't there an uproar from these types over cosplay is not consent? But considering that self-evident statement led to a brief argument with my Only Conservative Friend(tm), I also want to share the story of how I actually made a difference in the world I dropped "but OCF, cosplay is not consent" into a discussion loosely about cosplay, and he instantly bristled at it and started into a rant about how it is bullshit that women wear outfits like that if they do not want men to look at them and I was like "no, I need to stop you right there--believe it or not, you are not really the problem, as it is the guys who take upskirt shots and grab women and/or proposition them and stuff that we are talking about" and he was genuinely taken aback to learn that his own lascivious behavior basically did not even register on the scale of the issue being addressed. So for the first time in recorded history I intentionally had a politicized discussion with someone with very different views, and it went well! Wow!
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Jun 2, 2018 04:59
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Your friend is also the problem though.
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Jun 2, 2018 05:06
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Yeah, it would be inarguably OK if it was just looking. But it ain't always "just looking." EDIT: and Countblanc is right - the fact that that line so often gets crossed is because enough people default to the "she was askin' for it" line that the people who are the real problem feel emboldened to act inappropriately. In an imperfect world we all bear some personal responsibility for our own safety, but no one is ever "asking for it." Ilor fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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Jun 2, 2018 05:10
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Well literally just looking is not the problem, and I have been around him long enough to know that he really does just look, and/or if he wants a picture he asks to take one. But yes leering at women does always directly accompany the kinds of problems we are seeking to prevent. I mean this is really why I said something, because I wanted him to think more about the infinite spectrum of harassment even if his first instinct was to side with them. Hey there is a reason I only have one conservative friend, it takes a lot of my mental energy just figuring out how I can have conversations with him about things like this Edit: I apologize as this is now two posts in a row where I did not get excited about Gen-Con JNKNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dr. Quarex fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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Jun 2, 2018 18:00
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The photo thing is weird as a photographer because in a public space (even private events like Gencon are considered a public space) it's legally fine to take photos of anyone at any time as long as it's not something like upskirts or in a bathroom where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The Gencon User Agreement/Terms of Service don't even mention cosplay or consent of con-goers at all, interestingly enough. But of course anyone mad about cosplay is not consent is not concerned with that they're just being piss babies that can't respect social contracts enough to even wear deodorant, much less not be a loving creep. I'm all for the policy of no touching or being a creep and would tell anyone that's groped to immediately press charges in a heart beat, but I'm not sure if any convention could actually enforce the no photos without permission policy legally (and Gencon should really include cosplay is not consent in their terms of service to both enforce it and show more support beyond just words). EDIT: Holy poo poo the chuds on Facebook mad about Anita are sharing Jordan "Women Owe Men Sex" Peterson memes in their arguments, because of course they are. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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Jun 2, 2018 18:16
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Big Bird is going to be there! http://www.gencon.com/experience/2018puppetprogramguestofhonor
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Jun 5, 2018 14:35
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Why invite Big Bird? I have been puzzling over the decision to invite Big Bird as a guest of honor. Do they have a hand in designing a game that I am unaware of? Do they have industry experience with tabletop gaming? Right now all I can think of is they have "star power" but I would hope the reason for making her the guest of honor goes beyond that. Could someone with more experience with her work than me please explain why Big Bird is the Guest of honor?
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Jun 5, 2018 16:19
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enigmahfc posted:Why invite Big Bird? Caroll Spinney is a man.
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Jun 5, 2018 16:23
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They've got a whole Puppet program for some reason. http://www.gencon.com/experience/2018puppet
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Jun 5, 2018 16:27
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Slimy Hog posted:Caroll Spinney is a man. He’s quoting an Anita outrage post on FB 
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Jun 5, 2018 16:34
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Bottom Liner posted:He’s quoting an Anita outrage post on FB I stand by my statement 
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Jun 5, 2018 16:38
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Slimy Hog posted:I stand by my statement Ain't nothing wrong with that.
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Jun 5, 2018 17:23
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Funzo posted:They've got a whole Puppet program for some reason. There's something about the puppet program that I just find vaguely creepy. Maybe because it's too close to clowns.
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Jun 5, 2018 17:40
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Anyone planning any serious cosplay? I’m bringing my real camera and lights this year and want to take some cool portraits. You can see my portrait work here https://www.lightroomzen.com/portfolio
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Jun 5, 2018 17:41
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How could anyone be grouchy about Carrol Spinney?
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Jun 5, 2018 17:49
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Toshimo posted:How could anyone be grouchy about Carrol Spinney? Put a lid on it
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Jun 5, 2018 17:54
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I do not feel safe with SJW and Antifa leader/figurehead Big Bird at my convention
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Jun 5, 2018 18:10
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LOL I'm going to the Anita Sarkeesian thing when it's announced. gently caress yeah. I hope there are smelly chuds "protesting" so I can make fun of them.
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Jun 5, 2018 18:14
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enigmahfc posted:Why invite Big Bird? Anyone who is opposed to her who does not understand how utterly this puts them in their place w-- ...all of them, right, true, why do we bother Elephant Ambush posted:LOL I'm going to the Anita Sarkeesian thing when it's announced. gently caress yeah. I hope there are smelly chuds "protesting" so I can make fun of them. And since Gen-Con sells out now, just think: anyone who angrily cancels their badge in protest will literally be replaced at the convention by someone who is not awful
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Jun 5, 2018 18:23
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Dr. Quarex posted:
I expect to see you live "tweeting" what goes on to the groupme since I'll be stuck in my booth during any events she does (I assume that will be the case at least). That is great news about anyone actually cancelling their attendance because of this. I'm supposed to meet up with Derek Guder at Origins to talk about the women game masters analysis I posted last week, I wonder if he'll share any data on people actually leaving when I meet up with him.
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Jun 5, 2018 18:46
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Every person that cancels their badge because of Anita lowers my chances of gaming with someone who would cancel their badge because of Anita. I am fine with that.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:12
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enigmahfc posted:Every person that cancels their badge because of Anita lowers my chances of gaming with someone who would cancel their badge because of Anita. I am fine with that.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:14
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The guest line up this year is pretty great. Jordan Weisman is probably one of the nicest industry people and "S.A. Corey", Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham, are going to be there too. Weisman is always there but it's cool he's getting honored. Also, mother, loving, Big Bird.
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I know its not Gen Con, but it's content for the thread. Origins report: So as usual, Origins was both a fun show and a poo poo show. There were multiple reports of harrassment of women at the show, including of some people fairly prominent in the Board Game media (namely Bebo of Bebold Games and Katie from Katie's Games Corner) and it showed how terrible Origins anti-harrasment policy was since one of the stipulations of it is that if a staffer didn't see it then it didn't happen.... Origins also screwed over many people in their Entrepreneur's Avenue section who were sold a 10x10 booth space only to find out when they got there it was 8x10 or smaller. Origins response? If you don't like it you can leave... Origins also didn't promote the pin program at all but despite that it seems to have gone over well. The pins looked much better in person and several vendors sold out. They just sent out proofs of the Gen Con pins and they look much better than the Origins ones so far. I think I might up my quantity of pins ordered, the drat things better sell though. Personally the show was great. I was able to do multiple interviews for my game Bee Lives. I also had several business meetings related to the game, some good playtesting and am in the works of forming a media partnership for it all thanks to the show. Origins has its problems, but its still fun and very useful.
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nesbit37 posted:and it showed how terrible Origins anti-harrasment policy was since one of the stipulations of it is that if a staffer didn't see it then it didn't happen.... JFC. That's even worse than Gencon's.
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