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Last Jedi is a failure because people are debating how best to deploy the bombers, instead of addressing the more pertinent issue of why the Resistance is just this tiny roaming fleet with literally nothing at their disposal to stop the baddies from taking over the galaxy except some poo poo bombers.
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CelticPredator posted:Sorry, TLJ brought my love back but the reaction killed it, and Solo was just like yeah I think this franchise is beyond me at this point. It’s too cyclical. I see, fair enough. Though I wouldn't let what other people think of a thing hamper my own enjoyment of it. It's only movies at the end of the day.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:08
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Leia keeps talking about the resistance being the spark that starts the fires of revolution but then it turns out that none of their allies give a poo poo about them and are content to let them die in a cave until ghost Luke shows up.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:27
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Last Jedi is a failure because people are debating how best to deploy the bombers, instead of addressing the more pertinent issue of why the Resistance is just this tiny roaming fleet with literally nothing at their disposal to stop the baddies from taking over the galaxy except some poo poo bombers. The fact they are a resistance at all given they should be a legitimate government fleet is part of the problem. All of the explanations don't make much sense.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:50
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Canemacar posted:Don't fight what you hate, save what you love! That was a moment of such legitimate self-parody that it could have been in a Spaceballs sequel unedited.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:52
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Ingmar terdman posted:I cannot begin to imagine how they could squeeze two hours out of a character that got 5 minutes of screentime in the OT (https://www.imdb.com/list/ls027631145/). Using character very lightly here. Even the rumor mongers were saying that the Fett spinoff was really more a bounty hunter ensemble piece a year or so ago. I think the idea is that’s the point. There’s literally nothing to Boba Fett besides a cool design and concept and he’s otherwise a blank slate who doesn’t have any necessary ties to existing poo poo for the 30+ years between AOTC and when he shows back up in ESB (cartoons nobody cares about excluded) so they SHOULD, in theory, be able to tell a new and interesting story without being beholden to showing us how he got his loving helmet or met his best pal or whatever. And the James Mangold thing has people excited about Logan In Space, which is fair. It won’t happen, if the current track record is any indication, but if they’re committed to mining existing characters/material Boba Fett is as close as you’re going to get to one that might force them to be creative.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:53
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CelticPredator posted:no Leia never says go get em bombers. Poe is the head leader there. He takes orders from Leia but he can absolutely command the bombers. And he did. You totally didn't pay attention during the movie. He argues with Leia that he can take the ship if she sends the bombers. She says to get out of there. He assures he has it, and can bring it down. She then nods and gives the authorization to launch the bombers, which are then under his command at that point. Leia does this for 100% certain. Then she gets mad because there were losses (of the most poorly designed bombers ever, where the gently caress were the Y-Wings) killing a ship that would have literally obliterated them immediately after jumping otherwise. Edgar Allen Ho posted:So what you mean is everything Poe said was absolutely correct and nothing that contradicts what he said is correct, because... ? Poe only did that mission because his boss appeared to be bat poo poo insane and leading them all to ruin. Which she was. On both counts. YOLOsubmarine posted:Leia keeps talking about the resistance being the spark that starts the fires of revolution but then it turns out that none of their allies give a poo poo about them and are content to let them die in a cave until ghost Luke shows up. I was laughing my rear end off about that. Maybe they were a resistance because they were fighting the government before the government blew up
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Jun 2, 2018 22:56
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Mandrel posted:And the James Mangold thing has people excited about Logan In Space, which is fair. Should be 3:10 to Yuma in space with Fett as the Russell Crowe character.
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Jun 2, 2018 22:58
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Mandrel posted:It won’t happen, if the current track record is any indication, but if they’re committed to mining existing characters/material Boba Fett is as close as you’re going to get to one that might force them to be creative. Also nobody wants a Boba Fett prequel. I would take a Boba Fett sequel that's basically Blaster Wick, but they'd never have the balls to do something like that while the current management is in charge.
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Jun 2, 2018 23:00
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Blazing Ownager posted:Then she gets mad because there were losses (of the most poorly designed bombers ever, where the gently caress were the Y-Wings) killing a ship that would have literally obliterated them immediately after jumping otherwise. This genuinely isn't the case, though. The long range bomber was quite explicitly one of several of it's class. It couldn't have been able to wipe out Leia's fleet because if it had the capacity, one of the others would have when the mass of the First Order fleet warped in to chase them.
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Jun 2, 2018 23:36
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I just watched the scene on my phone. Right now. The entire plan was for Poe to distract and take out the guns while everyone evacuated. The Dreadnaught was going for the base. They fired on the base. Leia is happy when they pull it off and tells Poe to get out of there. Poe says no, we can take down this thing. Leia tells him to disengage and come back. Poe calls for the Bombers. Leia tells him to stop and he shuts off her call.
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Jun 2, 2018 23:42
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Yeah blazing ownager is literally talking out of his rear end, do not engage
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Jun 2, 2018 23:54
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Leia keeps talking about the resistance being the spark that starts the fires of revolution but then it turns out that none of their allies give a poo poo about them and are content to let them die in a cave until ghost Luke shows up. It's interesting how TLJ effectively announces literally nobody cares about the resistance/republic OR the first order/empire. No one outside the main characters gives a gently caress.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:08
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RBA Starblade posted:It's interesting how TLJ effectively announces literally nobody cares about the resistance/republic OR the first order/empire. No one outside the main characters gives a gently caress. rian johnson's cry for help that his movie has to be a direct sequel to tfa when he'd really rather be talking about how space capitalism makes everyone sons of bitches and how good gundam is
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Jun 3, 2018 00:21
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Last Jedi is a failure because people are debating how best to deploy the bombers, instead of addressing the more pertinent issue of why the Resistance is just this tiny roaming fleet with literally nothing at their disposal to stop the baddies from taking over the galaxy except some poo poo bombers. It does talk about that Rose figures it out the answer in the casino planet and tells Finn the answer when she sacrificed herself
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Jun 3, 2018 00:22
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Donovan Trip posted:...I fell asleep from boredom during the train heist, watched the Lando scenes, then started to nod off again and left before it was over... Who literally “nods off” during a movie? I mean, any movie that you deliberately attend after purchasing tickets? Not even a chick flick or boring art-house movie, but a major action-adventure film of a colossal franchise that you’re obviously interested in enough to attend. I’m going to go ahead and say you didn’t literally almost fall asleep during the movie, then storm out of the theater in anger. Instead, I’ll guess you wanted to breathlessly overstate your fake indifference to earn Edgelord points on the internet. That, or you’re narcoleptic. Those are the only two realistic scenarios, based on your ripping yarn of falling asleep during Star Wars. This is the worst loving thread.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:26
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I nodded off in Age of Ultron because I was drunk and it was during the hulk buster scene. Movie was boring in hindsight
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Jun 3, 2018 00:32
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Lincoln posted:Who literally “nods off” during a movie? I mean, any movie that you deliberately attend after purchasing tickets? Not even a chick flick or boring art-house movie, but a major action-adventure film of a colossal franchise that you’re obviously interested in enough to attend. I’m going to go ahead and say you didn’t literally almost fall asleep during the movie, then storm out of the theater in anger. Instead, I’ll guess you wanted to breathlessly overstate your fake indifference to earn Edgelord points on the internet. You’re super mad that someone found this movie boring.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:32
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Or maybe it was boring and he was tired
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Jun 3, 2018 00:33
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Blazing Ownager posted:Also nobody wants a Boba Fett prequel. Oh yeah I think post ROTJ is the best way to go, but I doubt that’ll happen. Too EU and they seem terrified of setting anything in that time period that might force them to elaborate on how we get from the galaxy at the end of ROTJ to the one in the ST. The ensemble thing honestly sounds the most likely, because it’s the most cowardly way they could go and allow them to trade off the character design while not having to actually confront writing some sort of human narrative arc or conflict for an individual character
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Jun 3, 2018 00:37
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Lincoln posted:Who literally “nods off” during a movie? I mean, any movie that you deliberately attend after purchasing tickets? Not even a chick flick or boring art-house movie, but a major action-adventure film of a colossal franchise that you’re obviously interested in enough to attend. I’m going to go ahead and say you didn’t literally almost fall asleep during the movie, then storm out of the theater in anger. Instead, I’ll guess you wanted to breathlessly overstate your fake indifference to earn Edgelord points on the internet. My old man started falling asleep in theaters around the time he turned 42 or 43. Back when I was getting dragged to romcoms with my ex, I would occasionally nod off. The combination of comfortable seats and a dark room is kind of a catalyst for snoozing. Edit: I have a terrible time falling asleep unless I have a podcast on (or, otherwise, my Rain Sounds app), it's not exactly out of the ordinary for people to fall asleep to sound. Timby fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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Jun 3, 2018 00:40
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I fell asleep during the ang Lee hulk movie. though I had already seen it once in theaters and was there a second time for some reason. still, movies make some people sleepy
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Jun 3, 2018 00:41
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Well, glad to report there still hasn't been a bad Star Wars movie! Weirdly between this and The Last Jedi, it seems like fan backlash is the surest sign I'm going to like the movie.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:41
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Timby posted:Vader just ending the poo poo out of the rebels was great. That scene on Mustafar with him and Krennic, though, was awful and indeed fanwank. I am 100% certain that the massacre at the end was Vaders only scene in the initial planning of the film, as an "oh poo poo" cameo, and that the terrible Mustafar scene was whipped up in punch-up or reshoots.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:46
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Vader's lava castle and Krennic being the poo poo-upon middle manager both own; actually.
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Jun 3, 2018 00:47
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Vader's priest guy and his bacta spa own too
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Jun 3, 2018 00:50
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I fell asleep during The Two Towers
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jivjov posted:Vader's lava castle and Krennic being the poo poo-upon middle manager both own; actually. Basically. And it's great to demonstrate that even though Krennic is an evil, petty dick, the Empire is ruled by much worse and he is unable to see it or, worse, thinks he is their equal.
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Jun 3, 2018 02:31
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Dash Rendar flies a millennial falcon Yo a shadows of the empire movie would be cool.
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Jun 3, 2018 02:38
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jivjov posted:Vader's lava castle and Krennic being the poo poo-upon middle manager both own; actually. I was happy to see the lava castle because they were originally going to have him in there in Empire Strikes Back instead of with the fleet for the entire movie (it would have been the location during the scene where Vader is approached from behind and is meditating/whatever with his helmet off). He was going to have a pair of pet dragons also. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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Jun 3, 2018 02:50
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euphronius posted:It does talk about that That's why I'm looking forward to Rian Johnson's trilogy. TLJ's main problems come from the studio and the director trying to work specific things into the movie. Outside of a numbered episode Johnson should have much more of a free hand creatively.
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Jun 3, 2018 03:07
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The idea that everyone is sick of Star Wars and no one gives gently caress about the Resistance vs. The First Order is interesting...except it makes no sense because I'm pretty sure people would care if ISIS Republican Nazis nuked Washington DC and the Fifth Fleet.
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Jun 3, 2018 03:10
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Saw it for a second time because my date (surprisingly) said she wanted to see this. All the way to the theater I was under the impression she was going to drag me to the Shailene Woodley Nipple Experience. Oddly enough, I enjoyed the movie much more the second time. Sure, the problems are still there but the expectation wasnt there which made it far more enjoyable.
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Jun 3, 2018 03:12
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mllaneza posted:That's why I'm looking forward to Rian Johnson's trilogy. TLJ's main problems come from the studio and the director trying to work specific things into the movie. Outside of a numbered episode Johnson should have much more of a free hand creatively. I was under the impression that Johnson's trilogy will be a new trilogy as in Episodes X, XI, and XII so won't it be the same thing but with the studio mandating that we see old Rey and learn what happened to Finn or whatever?
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Jun 3, 2018 03:13
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porfiria posted:The idea that everyone is sick of Star Wars and no one gives gently caress about the Resistance vs. The First Order is interesting...except it makes no sense because I'm pretty sure people would care if ISIS Republican Nazis nuked Washington DC and the Fifth Fleet. That’s a very confused metaphor Both the resistance and the first order are Washington DC in your language That’s the whole point . That’s why no one gives a poo poo about the resistance . Theyd just be a new first order The heroes or new heroes are Isis (without the misogyny et al)
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Jun 3, 2018 03:13
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euphronius posted:It does talk about that The most charitable interpretation of Rose’s statement is ‘maybe we should actually have a reason to exist’, and that’s a message along the lines of ‘don’t drink paint’. And it takes three hours for the characters to almost get there.
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Jun 3, 2018 03:16
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euphronius posted:That’s a very confused metaphor I mean if it's Hillary vs. Trump...people care about that even if they're also completely jaded and inarticulate about it. Maybe the citizens of the Galaxy Far Far Away are all socialists?
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Jun 3, 2018 03:16
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Neo Rasa posted:I was under the impression that Johnson's trilogy will be a new trilogy as in Episodes X, XI, and XII so won't it be the same thing but with the studio mandating that we see old Rey and learn what happened to Finn or whatever? It's been explicitly described as something completely new to Star Wars; and not ever billed as 3 more numbered episodes.
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Furious Mittens posted:Saw it for a second time because my date (surprisingly) said she wanted to see this. All the way to the theater I was under the impression she was going to drag me to the Shailene Woodley Nipple Experience. Back up a minute here
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Maxwell Lord posted:Back up a minute here Yes, while Shailene Woodleys nipples are nice and all, I doubt it would make up for having to sit through the rest of Adrift.
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