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Guy Goodbody posted:My opinions are so self-evidently correct that when someone continually refuses to agree with me they're revealing that their own opinions are worthy only of mockery Poe's_Law.txt
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Guy Goodbody posted:My opinions are so self-evidently correct that when someone continually refuses to agree with me they're revealing that their own opinions are worthy only of mockery Or maybe they realize that they're arguing with someone whose opinions are fraudulent and only claims to have them to provoke mockery from people in an attempt to Own them But hey, I guess there's the possibility that your galacticbrain.jpg posts are actually serious and you really do mean the wild, profoundly braindead things you say. either way, yikes
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doverhog posted:He never said anything about glorious Finland. Just noticed this synchronicity. Didn't Finnland's UBI plan just fizzle out?
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Canemacar posted:Didn't Finnland's UBI plan just fizzle out? It's reaching the end of the trial period and the government (who didn't like it much to begin with) decided not to continue with it. What impact it had is still being assessed. People trumpetted it as a huge failure but that's misrepresenting the situation.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It reached the end of the trial period and the government (who didn't like it much to begin with) decided not to continue with it. What impact it had is still being assessed. So another failed socialist experiment? *Laughs in Venezuelan*
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Jun 3, 2018 07:07
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Canemacar posted:So another failed socialist experiment? Hard to say it failed given it hasn't finished yet (and the results haven't been analysed), and UBI isn't even a socialist idea.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Hard to say it failed given it hasn't finished yet (and the results haven't been analysed), and UBI isn't even a socialist idea. I'd say the fact that it isn't being renewed says enough about it's success. Functional ideas speak for themselves. UBI is blatantly socialist. By that logic, Universal Healthcare isn't socialist.
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Canemacar posted:UBI is blatantly socialist. By that logic, Universal Healthcare isn't socialist. Calling it "blatantly socialist" is just bizarre.
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Jun 3, 2018 07:27
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Milton Friedman was a noted advocate of a UBI, and it's a popular idea in Silicon valley with supporters like Zuckerberg. And it's not hard to find left-wing critiques of it from people worried that a practical implementation of a UBI would simply entrench current power structures. It's a collectivist policy that operates on the premise of the central government redistributing wealth. It got the look, walk, and quack of socialism. The fact that personal opinions don't fall neatly along partisan lines doesn't change that.
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Jun 3, 2018 07:33
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Canemacar posted:It's a collectivist policy that operates on the premise of the central government redistributing wealth. It got the look, walk, and quack of socialism. A UBI funded by the nationalisation of every Fortune 500 company would certainly be a socialist policy. A UBI funded by the kind of taxation advocated by Friedman (and Smith) would not. It's not inherently a right-wing or left-wing idea.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:That's not what socialism means, either in theory or in practice. From Google: "a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." A central government redistributing the wealth generated by production, to the community as a whole, is literally the definition of Socialism.
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Jun 3, 2018 07:47
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Canemacar posted:"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." That is not the same as taxing privately owned and operated enterprises. This is getting far too D&D so I'm done.
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Jun 3, 2018 07:59
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Socialism is about, as your quote says, the idea that the community should own and control the means of production. Then, by your definition, Finland isn't Socialist, but Capitalist with an attached welfare state.
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Jun 3, 2018 08:04
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My unpopular opinion is that this discussion (or maybe this thread) should be moved to DnD.
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Nothing should ever move, and this will eventually be the case for everything.
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I think posters should have to take an exam proving they understand political and economic theory before they’re allowed to post about it. I’m aware this would leave approximately two well-informed users and also SMG.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think posters should have to take an exam proving they understand political and economic theory before they’re allowed to post about it. I’m aware this would leave approximately two well-informed users and also SMG. I don't come to PYF to post well-reasoned researched points, I come to post whatever halfbaked stupid thing is in my mind at that moment.
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Jun 3, 2018 09:47
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Canemacar posted:"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
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Jun 3, 2018 09:58
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The last while this thread has been pretty much dominated just by political discussion. Not even unpopular political opinions just people saying what they reckon then leaning back smugly with their arms crossed. In future you can take your political chat to D&D. If you don't like D&D too bad because that's how everyone else feels seeing 30 new replies and it's one dude saying he hates chocolate milk and 29 boring as poo poo snipes about leftism/conservatives.
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Jun 3, 2018 14:03
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Anyone who hates chocolate milk should be erased from history. Humanity doesn't need that kind of stain on it.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Anyone who hates chocolate milk should be erased from history. Humanity doesn't need that kind of stain on it. Chocolate's fine, but strawberry's the better option. There was a brief period where Big M made chocberry flavour and that was the best, but I guess that's an unpopular opinion because it didn't last.
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Strawberry milk always tastes chalky to me and doesn't taste like strawberry at all. It's the worst milk flavor, and also the worst icecream flavor. Whenever we'd get those neapolitan things of icecream, the strawberry third was always the last to go.
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Jun 3, 2018 14:38
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Fermented buttermilk is superior to any other type of milk.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Whenever we'd get those neapolitan things of icecream, the strawberry third was always the last to go. 
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Swimming is objectively the best form of exercise. It builds cardio, burns calories, and provides resistance training for every major muscle group without stressing your joints or being high impact.
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Canemacar posted:Swimming is objectively the best form of exercise. It builds cardio, burns calories, and provides resistance training for every major muscle group without stressing your joints or being high impact. Swimming is also super fun and awesome. I can't think of any other exercise where it's ok to just pee without stopping.
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Jun 3, 2018 19:29
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Do you also poo poo on the floor?
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Jun 3, 2018 19:34
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As opposed to what, the sky? Lmao get a load of this guy
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Solice Kirsk posted:Swimming is also super fun and awesome. I can't think of any other exercise where it's ok to just pee without stopping. any exercise if you're serious
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Mr. Doesn't poo poo on the Floor coming in and high horsing me. Get off your high horse Mr. Doesn't poo poo on the Floor.
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I did poo poo on the floor once when throwing up but that is story best forgotten, which is why I'm posting about it on the internet.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Anyone who hates chocolate milk should be erased from history. Humanity doesn't need that kind of stain on it. better than a chocolate milk stain imo
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Sex and chocolate go together like milk and mayonnaise or having views and being eaten for them.
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Jun 3, 2018 20:32
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Caufman posted:Sex and chocolate go together like milk and mayonnaise or having views and being eaten for them. For the last time, stop loving your cake frosting.
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Jun 3, 2018 21:37
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Canemacar posted:For the last time, stop loving your cake frosting. Make me
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Canemacar posted:For the last time, stop loving your cake frosting. This is the first time I'm hearing this. Thank you for correcting me.
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MizPiz posted:Make me Such degeneracy these days. Why can't you gently caress an apple pie like God intended?
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Jun 3, 2018 21:48
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Because were not 40?
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I was born a little too young to catch American Pie, so I learned about sexuality the most from stileproject.
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Apple pies suck. As do nearly all fruit pies, but apple especially sucks. Key Lime and pumpkin are the only acceptable fruit pies.
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