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Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

LingcodKilla posted:

Oh man why didn’t anyone tell me you have beer night on navy ships? This poo poo is awesome!

Apparently it's been beer night every night since we pulled back in for Deck's male berthing on our ship. There were also two NJPs on Friday that may have been related.

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Nostalgia4Ass posted:

Apparently it's been beer night every night since we pulled back in for Deck's male berthing on our ship. There were also two NJPs on Friday that may have been related.

Lol. Nah nothing like that.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


My god the amount of suspicious acting Chinese nationals at fleet week is amazing. So many people take pictures and trying to measure everything. NCIS is going nuts chasing them all around.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Lmao tell us all the details

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Lmao tell us all the details

First dude had a pair of cameras. One a massive telescopic lense and a second camera concealed in a teddy bear hanging off his side. He was using the giant camera on the LCS and the teddy on sailors until he got a close escort.

One sailor got asked by a Russian dude if he wanted to go back to a hotel to bang his wife. This one may have just been kinky. The sailor was a giant BM1. Still though.

We had a group of 10 buzzcut dudes get the attention of undercover and suit agents and they did a phone check. Their photos were.... interesting. Lots of unusual interests in random tech machinery.

The caught some dude taking measurement with his feet of the LCS. Didn’t think that was classified info but still pretty weird.

Lastly we had to double on certain tour groups because they kept trying to get lost. Was comical.

Over though we had a great weekend and nobody from my group got in trouble.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

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Ultra Carp
The interest in the LCS is hilarious. Do they have both variants up there for fleet week or just a freedom variant?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Yeah Little Rock only.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
lots of research on how not to build one

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



They already have the plans. They're taking new pictures to see if we've figured out how to keep them from slowly dissolving.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I have so many questions. Like are they trying to sell the info to the Chinese government or legit sent by them? Whole thing is wild. I always heard the stories and don’t talk to anyone loose lips sink ships etc but drat

I guess I’m wondering what the legalities are here if it’s not actual service men taking and sharing these photos. The nanny cam is spooky for sure

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

Mr. Nice! posted:

They already have the plans. They're taking new pictures to see if we've figured out how to keep them from slowly dissolving.

We use a mix of Simple Green, the tears of HMs who didnt pick up and the blood of nukes.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Mr. Nice! posted:

They already have the plans. They're taking new pictures to see if we've figured out how to keep them from slowly dissolving.

You know this makes the most sense.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Simplest explination is usually the correct one, especially in militaries where the best that can be done collectively is the intelligence of a malicious fourth grader who huffs glue

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

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Ultra Carp
AT orders approved for Mayport at LCSRON. Cant wait to not touch the gear or stand watch since I haven't gone through 3m or srf-b in the reserves, never mind that I was an active duty sailor for ten years.

I'm sure I'll be well tasked!

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Maybe you will get trusted with the Dunkin Donut runs?

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

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Ultra Carp
One could only hope to achieve such a lofty position.

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe
Enjoy taping walls!

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


PneumonicBook posted:

One could only hope to achieve such a lofty position.

Realchat: Don't let the AD guys shelve you as a reservist. You were AD for 10 years, let them know you know stuff about stuff and can actually do things. Absolutely be proactive on your AT, and you'll get things accomplished and feel worthwhile.

If that doesn't happen, then good news: you never have to go back there, and you can publicly shame them without fear of repercussions. It's not like they're writing your evals.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

LingcodKilla posted:

Maybe you will get trusted with the Dunkin Donut runs?

Was my boat the only one with the good sense to do Jamba Juice runs?

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Realchat: Don't let the AD guys shelve you as a reservist. You were AD for 10 years, let them know you know stuff about stuff and can actually do things. Absolutely be proactive on your AT, and you'll get things accomplished and feel worthwhile.

If that doesn't happen, then good news: you never have to go back there, and you can publicly shame them without fear of repercussions. It's not like they're writing your evals.

Yeah our command is pretty vocal about utilizing reservists within their rates and doing something that helps both them and the ship. If the AT guys get hosed with, all they have to do is tell their command and we stop getting guys.

I mean I am no sailor so half of what you guys talk about is greek to me but I sit in all the dumb meetings where idiots propose things like making AT guys mess cranks and stuff.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender
Reservists on LCS is tough. The most useful thing I've had reservists do is escort duty during a maintenance avail where contractors outnumbered crew. It sounds like a waste of time but my guys were able to spend a couple of hours working on causalities without being called to the quarterdeck and it makes all the difference. The core LCS scheduled maintenance load isn't overly heavy (at least for non engineers); the sailors mostly drown in those uncounted sailor hours: collaterals, training requirements, correspondence with and management of contracted maintenance, programs, feed back reports, etc. These are difficult to load balance in a meaningful way to reservists who are probably unfamiliar with the systems and processes in the LCS unique snowflake model.

Since reservists show up with proof of weapons qualification almost never, the next most useful thing would probably be second signing tags? Assuming they show up with proof of those qualifications, that is.

I've also never been contacted ahead of time about what would be useful and what prework will get us there, but I'm just a lowly DIVO, and don't rate high enough for that level of planning. Usually just find out on a Monday that there are four unqualified first classes looking for tasking--outbrief will be on Thursday.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

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Ultra Carp
Yea I imagine no one will let me touch anything even though i build the loving things in big boy land. I wouldn't mind heading to the 3m academy or whatever bs the navy requires but everytime I call the unit I get a different person who knows less than the last person. I dont know give me a pqs or something.

Othin
Nov 20, 2002

Hair Elf
So as I wrap up my first trip to Bahrain all I can say is how much respect I have for any of you that have actually had to spend a year or more here. It is so much worse than I had ever imagined.

I guess my biggest takeaway is that it basically seems like one huge retarded all star / celebrity softball game. Some folks are trying hard, others are just showing their face, a few are hanging with their buds, and the rest are Carrot Top. Because of the generally short term orders like 90% of every shop I dealt with was either in their CMS window or had a huge case of short timer syndrome.

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler
anyone got any recommendations for apartments or areas in san diego? 2 bedrooms needed w/ pets allowed but otherwise we can work with stuff. trying to avoid military housing.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

boy are my arms tired posted:

anyone got any recommendations for apartments or areas in san diego? 2 bedrooms needed w/ pets allowed but otherwise we can work with stuff. trying to avoid military housing.

You're not going to want to hear this but your best bet is going to be military housing unless the apartments in San Diego have changed wildly since I've been out there.

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

PneumonicBook posted:

You're not going to want to hear this but your best bet is going to be military housing unless the apartments in San Diego have changed wildly since I've been out there.

was afraid of this but yeah i guess i can't escape it. thanks!

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Yeah I think a lot of them are off-base base housing and probably are worlds better than living on base proper

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

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Ultra Carp

boy are my arms tired posted:

was afraid of this but yeah i guess i can't escape it. thanks!

They'll push the ones an hour away with gift cards and shot but that's crazy. I always recommended the places at howard Gilmore in lemon grove or the ones over by aero drive and the stadium.

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.
Well I got my nifty blue ID card today. I'm officially a retiree. Little more sad about that than I thought I would be.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


vulturesrow posted:

Well I got my nifty blue ID card today. I'm officially a retiree. Little more sad about that than I thought I would be.

Congrats, enjoy your check (and health care) for the rest of your life for putting up with all the bullshit

Geizkragen
Dec 29, 2006

Get that booze monkey off my back!

vulturesrow posted:

Well I got my nifty blue ID card today. I'm officially a retiree. Little more sad about that than I thought I would be.

You give me hope that I can grind it out for two more years. Enjoy standing around in the aisles at the commissary.

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

Geizkragen posted:

You give me hope that I can grind it out for two more years. Enjoy standing around in the aisles at the commissary.

I am right behind you. Counting down the days while I prep for my final PCS.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

boy are my arms tired posted:

anyone got any recommendations for apartments or areas in san diego? 2 bedrooms needed w/ pets allowed but otherwise we can work with stuff. trying to avoid military housing.

You can do fine without military housing in San Diego. What you need near you to be happy varies from person to person, but don't fall into the cute home lovely commute trap half the people I work with fall into.

Which base will you be commuting to?
What's the SO (if any) do for hobbies? For work?
Kids?
What resources (if any) do you value having in walking distance? In short driving distance? Bars, grocery, parks, restaurants, the beach, music venues, hiking, etc.
How many vehicles are you showing up with (parking is awful here, so ensuring you have parking should be part of your math, and if you like to go out, being able to do so without parking is highly valuable)
Consider mass transit availability or ease of biking to work if you're interested in those things. Some parts of San Diego are decently serviced by mass transit (depending where you want to go) others are impossible dreams.

Too expensive and/or too crowded unless you find a sweet spot on the edges: Downtown, Little Italy, Coronado island
Walkable, in town, probably has a grocery and things to do nearby: North Park, Hilcrest, Bankers Hill, East Village. Depending where your BAH is, you can get fairly under your BAH in these areas
On the edge: South Park, City Heights (most of City Heights is garbage, so be careful with this one), Kensington (this is a fairly quiet area, somewhat expensive in parts), Mission Hills, University Heights
Beachy places near town: pacific Beach, ocean beach
For the olds/truly in the burbs: Encinitas, Carlsbad, Santee

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Not Navy but commutes suck.
Also being close to work sucks if everything you like to do after work is a long way away from there.

It gets harder when there's a mix. My supermarket's on the corner, got decent restaurants nearby, work's 30 mins direct bus in good traffic, 45 in bad traffic - but my gym's 90 mins away with nothing realistic closer.

For me that works because I get to live outside suburbia, my rent's considerably lower, and since my main evening thing is good food I can cook easily or eat out easily. I would like a shorter commute and 100% need a closer gym, but on balance it works because I can do emails and poo poo on public transport, so it isn't entirely wasted time

also the good bars round here have busses all night so I can get plastered and not worry about a DUI. I suppose that's my other hobby

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

piL posted:

You can do fine without military housing in San Diego. What you need near you to be happy varies from person to person, but don't fall into the cute home lovely commute trap half the people I work with fall into.

Which base will you be commuting to?
What's the SO (if any) do for hobbies? For work?
Kids?
What resources (if any) do you value having in walking distance? In short driving distance? Bars, grocery, parks, restaurants, the beach, music venues, hiking, etc.
How many vehicles are you showing up with (parking is awful here, so ensuring you have parking should be part of your math, and if you like to go out, being able to do so without parking is highly valuable)
Consider mass transit availability or ease of biking to work if you're interested in those things. Some parts of San Diego are decently serviced by mass transit (depending where you want to go) others are impossible dreams.

Too expensive and/or too crowded unless you find a sweet spot on the edges: Downtown, Little Italy, Coronado island
Walkable, in town, probably has a grocery and things to do nearby: North Park, Hilcrest, Bankers Hill, East Village. Depending where your BAH is, you can get fairly under your BAH in these areas
On the edge: South Park, City Heights (most of City Heights is garbage, so be careful with this one), Kensington (this is a fairly quiet area, somewhat expensive in parts), Mission Hills, University Heights
Beachy places near town: pacific Beach, ocean beach
For the olds/truly in the burbs: Encinitas, Carlsbad, Santee

1) FASW Point Loma/32nd
2) Hiking, parks, beach, outdoorsy stuff. She translates so she is able to work anywhere there's wifi, essentially.
3) A 2 year old daughter.
4) I'm not that picky about walkable stuff, short drive or decent bike ride is good enough for us, but grocery stores, parks, restaurants, etc.

We were looking at mission valley since we found a few that will be decently under our BAH and they aren't too far from where I'd be going / decent areas, but I'll give those other areas a look. Thanks!

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

boy are my arms tired posted:

1) FASW Point Loma/32nd
2) Hiking, parks, beach, outdoorsy stuff. She translates so she is able to work anywhere there's wifi, essentially.
3) A 2 year old daughter.
4) I'm not that picky about walkable stuff, short drive or decent bike ride is good enough for us, but grocery stores, parks, restaurants, etc.

We were looking at mission valley since we found a few that will be decently under our BAH and they aren't too far from where I'd be going / decent areas, but I'll give those other areas a look. Thanks!

There's some nice places pro-dog on Craiglist around Oceanbeach/Point Loma I would definitely consider for sub $2600. If you're E6/O2 or above w/ dependents, BAH is going to clock around 3000+, otherwise around $2500. That area has access to beaches, best possible commute to FASW and not bad to 32nd Street, Mt Calliboro Park, which is pretty cool though you'll grow to loathe it due to proximity to work. A pretty nice restaurant scene only slightly outdone by North Park, Hillcrest, and Little India. Northern Point Loma has some Midwest style sprawl, which will get you access to groceries, etc. Very suburban feel away from OB.

I'd take a look at what's in PB (beach access, good restaurants, cool local businesses and a cool coffee shop/business center for the wife) as well. Brah is part of the local dialect.

Mission Valley is well priced for homes if you live a rich internal life, but super soulless, corporate and full-of-malls. And guarded from transit by an enormous hill and interstate access, so you'll only be biking to those malls. But good car access to all of San Diego with good homes rates. Just expect to drive often, if never super far. Enjoy access to everything San Diego has to offer if you can overcome the inertia of driving.

Mission Hills, though pushing the upper end of BAH isn't too bad either, with great access.

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe
Seconding Point Loma. Lived there for 3 years and change, and there's no way I'd live anywhere else if I got stationed back there. 15 minute right turn onto 32nd Street commute was a godsend some days when I was late. I had a roommate, but (this was in 2009 to 2012) our combined rent and utilities was less than my E5 Bah.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
I got to live on Coronado because I worked at NASNI and I loving loved it. If I ever become a rich retiree I really want to live there. :smith:

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler
we ended up getting a place in mission valley; its clean/low crime, we end up pocketing about 700 before utitilies from BAH alone and its right next to basically anything; shopping/restaurants, 10m drive to FASW / 15m drive to 32nd, trolley access; i could go on but it's awesome. thanks for the tips!

i don't think i've ever felt low-class before in my life but driving through coronado's tourist area is probably the closest; that place is nice

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Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002
Navy resurrected WO1 for CTN Ions because they all get out.

They they went and made it a 6 year service commitment. Which is really really stupid.

Why would anyone ( thinking of staying in) go warrant at E5, give up the massive reenlistment bonus you can get, only to get promoted to CWO2 in a few years and wind up a Divo or something?

Everyone gets out because the promotion pulls them away from doing the actual job. Let them do the loving job and they might not get out.

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