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You know, I do like that in a LP about two factions slamming into each-other in an endless meat grinder were thousands die for tiny gains, Grey instead gets steamrolled by the western powers with their endless stream of men and supplies. While in the LP about a western power steamrolling it's opponent with an endless supply of men and resources, it instead turns into an endless meatgrinder were thousands die for tiny gains.
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   This is more what a surface attack should look like.  This shot obliterates the target.  The I-20 is on a killing spree!  Ships returning from repair are diverted to bombard enemy positions on Truk.  The lighter raiders catch and murder some transports.  Woops, nearly missed one!  I switch to bombing the troops at Manus, but get less information.  As an Englishman, I should not have this much the for Spitfires.  At least they are flying through lots of flak.  The planes at Truk have secondary orders to bomb the enemy there – it should help their experience levels if nothing else!   I'm hitting their troops with everything I've got! Let's hope it does something!  Of these, two go on the official number, Skinflint computer.
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Jun 3, 2018 18:32
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whitewhale posted:The dude was running an 18 knot training cruiser in a fast raider fleet for ~4 years, it's best to just roll with it! hey, after years of complaints he finally fixed the graphs!
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Jun 3, 2018 19:20
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Lakedaimon posted:because 30 Helens agree 
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Jun 3, 2018 19:25
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I feel like an entire book could be written on the time a Submarine surfaced in a harbor and started taking potshots at Higgens boats.
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Jun 3, 2018 19:35
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farraday posted:I feel like an entire book could be written on the time a Submarine surfaced in a harbor and started taking potshots at Higgens boats. one down more 23,000 to go!
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Jun 3, 2018 19:58
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They're mostly plywood with a steel ramp at the front and a truck engine strapped to the back. I guess a point is a point.
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Jun 3, 2018 20:31
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They can't be much more considering they were obliterated by a 25mm AA shell.
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Jun 3, 2018 21:02
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I'm pretty sure the usa produces more of those per day than the Japanese do shells, so I think that was a net loss for Grey.
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Jun 3, 2018 21:15
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2 June 1944 USS Guitarro torpedoes the Japanese escort Awaji near Formosa. The RAF sinks the German torpedo boat TA-16 (ex-Italian Castelfidardo) at Heraklion by blowing up a nearby ammunition ship.
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Jun 4, 2018 00:20
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goatface posted:They're mostly plywood with a steel ramp at the front and a truck engine strapped to the back. Plywood has to be the low-key sleeper hero of Second World War building materials. The de Havilland Mosquito is justifiably famous, but did the Axis ever make use of plywood in the same was as the Allies did?
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Jun 4, 2018 00:35
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So the Allies have basically landed most of a.. Division at Truk which is cut off, under occasional air attack and bombardment and has no supprot from the Allied Navy and they aren't even trying to evacuate it and are outnumbered by two or three to one? This is going to look great in the press..
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Jun 4, 2018 00:40
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wedgekree posted:So the Allies have basically landed most of a.. Division at Truk which is cut off, under occasional air attack and bombardment and has no supprot from the Allied Navy and they aren't even trying to evacuate it and are outnumbered by two or three to one? and it's successfully bleeding the japanese defenders dry somehow
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Jun 4, 2018 00:41
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David Corbett posted:Plywood has to be the low-key sleeper hero of Second World War building materials. The de Havilland Mosquito is justifiably famous, but did the Axis ever make use of plywood in the same was as the Allies did? As far as I know the German plywood airplanes were all "Oh god, we're out of money" Wonderwaffen projects. Some of which were more  than others.How about a plywood and steel tube super sonic ram jet that was powered by coal?
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Jun 4, 2018 01:29
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Ardeem posted:As far as I know the German plywood airplanes were all "Oh god, we're out of money" Wonderwaffen projects. Some of which were more Definitely the best late-war "oh god, just get something up there with guns, Hamburg has been destroyed eight times already" jets were powered by wood alcohol or whatever
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Jun 4, 2018 02:58
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goatface posted:They're mostly plywood with a steel ramp at the front and a truck engine strapped to the back.
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David Corbett posted:Plywood has to be the low-key sleeper hero of Second World War building materials. The de Havilland Mosquito is justifiably famous, but did the Axis ever make use of plywood in the same was as the Allies did? Noted rocket powered aircraft/sled/pilot flesh gooeyfication chamber and all around death trap Me-163 Komet had a good chunk of it (all of it?) made out of laminated wood.
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David Corbett posted:Plywood has to be the low-key sleeper hero of Second World War building materials. The de Havilland Mosquito is justifiably famous, but did the Axis ever make use of plywood in the same was as the Allies did? Zee Germans made their own wooden plane after getting embarrassed by the Mosquito, the Ta-154. The prototypes showed a ton of potential with excellent performance, but just as the plane was going into production, the British bombed the only factory in Germany that made the special Tego-film glue/resin they used to assemble the plane. They tried a substitute glue, but it didnt bond as well and was apparently slightly acidic to the wood used, and the whole program was shelved.
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Jun 4, 2018 05:32
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wedgekree posted:So the Allies have basically landed most of a.. Division at Truk which is cut off, under occasional air attack and bombardment and has no supprot from the Allied Navy and they aren't even trying to evacuate it and are outnumbered by two or three to one? Istvun posted:and it's successfully bleeding the japanese defenders dry somehow GOD drat THE COMBAT SYSTEM IN THIS GAME! There are several islands now where I should be able to destroy the forces there, but +TERRAIN means they are dug in like ticks.
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Grey Hunter posted:GOD drat THE COMBAT SYSTEM IN THIS GAME! *gives the old side-eye to Operation Charnel House*
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Yeah, that has other issues. Like my planes refusing to attack. I'm half considering ending this at the start of 45 if the AI doesn't get it's act together.
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Jun 4, 2018 16:20
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Grey Hunter posted:I'm half considering ending this at the start of 45 if the AI doesn't get it's act together. You shouldn't, we've been through almost four years and it would really suck to see this end on anything other than a victory screen. Also barring some kind of radical update to the game this is probably going to be the last War in the Pacific LP I'll ever see you do and having watched the Allied LP from beginning to end it would suck to this one end before it should.
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Jun 4, 2018 16:50
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Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, that has other issues. Like my planes refusing to attack. See it through, you'll regret it if you don't after putting so much time into it
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Jun 4, 2018 16:57
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Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, that has other issues. Like my planes refusing to attack. Finish strong, see it all the way through. And by finish strong I mean bombard Chungking daily until it finally collapses
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Jun 4, 2018 17:11
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simplefish posted:See it through, you'll regret it if you don't after putting so much time into it I'll take sunk cost fallacy for 500 additional days of my life
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Jun 4, 2018 18:20
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Grey Hunter posted:Yeah, that has other issues. Like my planes refusing to attack. Any way you could turn your game into a PBEM? I'm sure someone on here would be willing to take over the Allies and try to win.
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Jun 4, 2018 20:11
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Should at least continue the LP until the Allies nuke Truk.
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Jun 4, 2018 20:49
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RZApublican posted:You shouldn't, we've been through almost four years and it would really suck to see this end on anything other than a victory screen. Also barring some kind of radical update to the game this is probably going to be the last War in the Pacific LP I'll ever see you do and having watched the Allied LP from beginning to end it would suck to this one end before it should.  Grey Hunter, force President Dewey to establish a truce. Establish the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Sink all of the ships.
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Jun 4, 2018 22:11
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Seeing the nuke dropped would be pretty cool.
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Jun 4, 2018 22:35
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aphid_licker posted:Seeing the nuke dropped would be pretty cool. On Rabaul
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No no no, let's go one better. punched my v-card at camp posted:On Charnel House
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Jun 4, 2018 23:30
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It's going to be on Wake and you all know it.
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Jun 4, 2018 23:57
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This game would be so much better if the UI were.. Comprehensive. Which is a shame as I'd really love to try and play it if it was on same but it sounds so danged nightmarish just to figure out how to do things. I'd love it if they did an updated edition purely with a more coherent way to access things and well documented.
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wedgekree posted:This game would be so much better if the UI were.. Comprehensive. Which is a shame as I'd really love to try and play it if it was on same but it sounds so danged nightmarish just to figure out how to do things. I'd love it if they did an updated edition purely with a more coherent way to access things and well documented. The UI is truly bad but once it clicks there is an amazing game behind it. I would say it was a few dozen hours played though before I was like “okay I get this” and shifted from fighting the UI to making poo poo happen though.
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  Another day, another group of light transports sunk.  The flak over Manus continues to take it's toll.  As do the Spitfires.  The Allies land a hit.  The I-20 gets a bit too cocky today.   We lose some planes to a night raid.   Wake is bombarded again.  They also have a carrier in support.  A bit more global today, rather than Rabaul, the war story.  Once again, only on of these counts as a sunk ship. I don't think the game counts landing craft as ships folks!
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Jun 5, 2018 04:34
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Grey Hunter posted:
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Jun 6, 2018 00:49
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4 June 1944 German minesweeper M-37 sunk by... Russian MTBs, not mines! Torpedoed off Narva.
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I'd like to note Grey you're playing amazingly and this is glorious to watch. Mid 1944 and you still have a mostly intact carrier group, defensive perimeter, and your economy is still chugging along and you're holding.
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  They continue to flak us up.  Losses are mounting.  They seem to go through phases where their bombs can hit anything.  We continue to constantly strike their troops.  What was that buzzing?  Putting air wings back together is hard. I've hit that point where a lot of ships need upgrades – do I take the KB out for a month or two now, or soldier on?
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Honesty I'd take it out for upgrades. You're going to need to replace the air wings, this is as good a time as any when you'd be operating with heavily reduced strike grousp and inexperienced pilots. It should up their survivability a bit for later combat. And the Allies still are going to be slowing down operations - they still lost three fleet carriers in a month, that's not something they can immediately replace. So I'd take the KB for upgrades and use it to get the air wings up to full strength and train if you can and then be ready for the next allied offensive, as theyre probably going to be focused on Truk for a bit.. Truk and Wake are both solidly defended and the USN probably won't be doing more than possibly surface raids or quick carrier strikes of them, you recently reinforced both so they should be fine. You have the surface raider group at Rabaul and the air cover there seems decent. Seems best rather than have the Kido Butai set in half strength to put them in for upgrades, rebuild their flight groups, and they should be ready for the next big operation. THe USN doesn't have that much capability they can conduct multiple division scale landing operations and support them. wedgekree fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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