goatface posted:

It looks badly photoshopped if anything. The white doesn't even match.

TTerrible posted:

Either that or it was commission painted and then later "upgraded" by the owner.

Schadenboner posted:

It wouldn’t have the FLG frame then though?

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

are we the baddies?

Len posted:

And here I just thought it was a neat skull. That'll show me.


Has anyone made an Ork truck with nutz? Only the nutz are skulls and/or space marine helmets.

moths posted:

It showed up on FLG's Imperial Knight Codex review. So yeah, they're aware of it.

Schadenboner posted:

Ilor posted:

To be fair, the skull-and-crossed-bones symbol has been an emblem of cavalry units dating back to the Napoleonic era. All German tankers had the skull-and-crossed-bones pins on their lapel tabs. But it's easy to confuse it with the Totenkopf division, especially if you're unaware of the symbol's earlier use. That confusiuon (and the resulting backlash) is what led to the re-design of the front cover of TFL's "What a Tanker" rulebook.

TTerrible posted:

I find it extremely difficult to give people the benefit of the doubt with regards to the Totenkopf in TYOOL 2018.

Ilor posted:

To be fair, the skull-and-crossed-bones symbol has been an emblem of cavalry units dating back to the Napoleonic era. All German tankers had the skull-and-crossed-bones pins on their lapel tabs. But it's easy to confuse it with the Totenkopf division, especially if you're unaware of the symbol's earlier use. That confusiuon (and the resulting backlash) is what led to the re-design of the front cover of TFL's "What a Tanker" rulebook.

TTerrible posted:

I find it extremely difficult to give people the benefit of the doubt with regards to the Totenkopf in TYOOL 2018.

Ilor posted:

To be fair, the skull-and-crossed-bones symbol has been an emblem of cavalry units dating back to the Napoleonic era. All German tankers had the skull-and-crossed-bones pins on their lapel tabs. But it's easy to confuse it with the Totenkopf division, especially if you're unaware of the symbol's earlier use. That confusiuon (and the resulting backlash) is what led to the re-design of the front cover of TFL's "What a Tanker" rulebook.

Ilor posted:

EDIT: It's all about context. You don't punch a Shingon Buddhist in the face for "wearing a swastika."

The Moon Monster posted:

Yeah, I'd assume the majority of people would think it was just yet another skull and crossbones and not recognize it as a nazi symbol.

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Dude, it’s just a skull, lol. The guy who painted that is Asian American, my friend and most assuredly not pro-Nazi (laughably far from that).

He just free-handed a skull on to a Knight, if it happens to resemble something else that is purely coincidental. IIRC it was supposed to like a jolly rogers or something like that. We’ve posted this picutre many, many times as it is a cool looking Knight and no one has ever said anything about the skull being offensive until now.

But, le sigh, as in this day and age people throw fits over seemingly anything, I will take it down as I don’t want to deal with the headache. I have too much on my plate to spend time arguing over an imagined slight.

Sorry if this seems short but I hope you can step into my shoes and try and see this from our perspective. You’re saying either we’re Nazi sympathizers or ignorant based on total speculation with no actual knowledge of what the image is meant to represent. You THINK it is a Nazi symbol but I’m telling you, it’s just a regular old skull. In fact, you’re telling us what we painted is, instead of simply asking, lol. It’s very presumptive and frankly, insulting.

In the future, before assuming, perhaps just ask. If your suspicions are confirmed maybe then press the righteous indignation button. But don’t jump the gun, please.

moths posted:

FLG pulled the image, but someone in the comments had to leave this gem:


(Bring back GROGNARDS.TXT)

mango sentinel posted:

I can buy that it was maybe traced or designed unknowingly from a totenkopf, but Reece's response is garbage from an idiot.

Hauki posted:

the fact that it’s coincidentally placed on a red and white shield further calls into question that defense

TTerrible posted:

Yup, exactly this. I don't for a second think anyone at FLG is an actual nazi. It's a bad choice from Google Image Search for source material when freehanding.

Don't double down on it though, maybe.

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

The context is a wargaming hobby. That combined with the fact it really isn't a traditional skull & crossbones and we're well into the realm of looking and quacking like a duck.