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so what were the "disparaging" remarks about the jesus loving cake shop owner that kiboshed the ruling?
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Al! posted:yeah, all the ruling did was give businesses a legal roadmap on how to discriminate in states where their courts are already hostile to gay rights and get away with it. i dont know why everyones freaking out No, not really, because the court pretty strictly says "This decision doesn't say anything about the actual fundamental question at play here, sorry" https://twitter.com/RAVerBruggen/status/1003649930995601409
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for all the justified anger at Decorum being something people hold sacred when it's clearly not supposed to be, it's weird how many folks in this thread seem to think that the chuds will just stop being homophobic if they don't have something that might look like an excuse if you run it through nineteen Photoshop filters, tilt your head, squint, and hammer the CSI enhance button like it's your dick
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Schnorkles posted:yeah, this is a giant punt and people freaking out about it and calling it the dominance of law by religion may be hyperventilating just a bit. the Supreme Court overturned the rulings of lower courts which said that discrimination was bad, and replaced it with "well, we don't know if discrimination is bad or not, we'll decide it later maybe" moreover, the reasoning they used to do so was by taking a bunch of quotes that were variations on "using religion as an excuse to discriminate is bad" and saying that while that's what they seem to say, they could also possibly be read as "religion is bad" and therefore they unfairly violated his first amendment rights look at this poo poo quote:Standing alone, these statements are susceptible of different inter- "on the one hand, they might mean a condemnation of the illegal behavior that the commission exists for the express purpose of combating. on the other hand, if you eliminate all context and stretch a little, they might be seen as dismissive of his rationale for illegal discrimination" - very smart Supreme Court justice person
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eat cake to trigger the libs
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Lawman 0 posted:How easily do you burn in the sun op? Somebody's got an axe to grind
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i'm kinda blown away that we got something that wasn't a 5-4 decision with the court holding gently caress gay people and we're still gnashing our teeth and tearing our hair out.
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i would have liked for them to cover whether cake baking is artistic expression
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gays, have you tried, not being gay, or baking your own cakes? just throwing ideas out there.
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Schnorkles posted:gnashing our teeth and tearing our hair out. 
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Schnorkles posted:i'm kinda blown away that we got something that wasn't a 5-4 decision with the court holding gently caress gay people and we're still gnashing our teeth and tearing our hair out. thread was pretty pent up over the weekend
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Schnorkles posted:i'm kinda blown away that we got something that wasn't a 5-4 decision with the court holding gently caress gay people and we're still gnashing our teeth and tearing our hair out. I woke up hella mad op
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Joementum posted:i would have liked for them to cover whether cake baking is artistic expression this is absolutely art 
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Straight guy here, with some objective analysis of this recent event that has the gays so hysterical
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Gay cakes are now mandatory
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A Handed Missus posted:did u know that bill clinton is a tremendous rear end in a top hat why are you bringing up a random article from 2016 or is this one of those "leftists saying clinton was bad cost her the election" things
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Origami Dali posted:so what were the "disparaging" remarks about the jesus loving cake shop owner that kiboshed the ruling? “[I]f a businessman wants to do business in the state and he’s got an issue with the— the law’s impacting his personal belief system, he needs to look at being able to compromise.” “I would also like to reiterate what we said in the hearing or the last meeting. Freedom of religion and religion has been used to justify all kinds of discrimination throughout history, whether it be slavery, whether it be the holocaust, whether it be—I mean, we—we can list hundreds of situations where freedom of religion has been used to justify discrimination. And to me it is one of the most despicable pieces of rhetoric that people can use to—to use their religion to hurt others.”
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Agriculture Printing press Steam engine Electricity Atomic bomb Computer TRUMP
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Schnorkles posted:i'm kinda blown away that we got something that wasn't a 5-4 decision with the court holding gently caress gay people and we're still gnashing our teeth and tearing our hair out. I’ve noticed that you’re always claiming people are gnashing their teeth and tearing their hair when it’s not actually what’s happening.
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i don't think a court should actually rule on what does/doesn't count as artistic expression, but it would have made for some fun reading
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Schnorkles posted:No, not really, because the court pretty strictly says "This decision doesn't say anything about the actual fundamental question at play here, sorry" yeah by the simplistic definition of "does this set a precedent" no but what it does do is provide a valid justification for a defense of bigotry that the supreme court just reaffirmed as a successful defense: you have to argue that the state didnt consider your sincere religious beliefs without prejudice. and while thats not going to work on the west coast it sure as poo poo would work in mississippi
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Schnorkles posted:No, not really, because the court pretty strictly says "This decision doesn't say anything about the actual fundamental question at play here, sorry" maybe I'm completely jaded with how society exists in a Trump world, but it just seems to me that the fact that the scope was so narrow will mean nothing to a future court full of Alitos because that poo poo doesn't matter to fascists
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Main Paineframe posted:“[I]f a businessman wants to do business in the state and he’s got an issue with the— Wow those dudes should really take off their fedoras and be more normal
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Main Paineframe posted:“[I]f a businessman wants to do business in the state and he’s got an issue with the— jfc
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clarence thomas: still the mvp of scotus https://twitter.com/limminlaw/status/1003650170247106560
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hey schnorkles what's the name of that organization that shows up at the beginning of every presidential election cycle and looks at which senators have a good shot at being the dem nominee and then gins up a "study" "proving" that they have the Most Liberal Voting Record In The Senate and all the Fox News ppl treat it like serious scholarship
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Straight guy here, with some objective analysis of this recent event that has the gays so hysterical
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Main Paineframe posted:“[I]f a businessman wants to do business in the state and he’s got an issue with the— wowzers
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All i'm saying is maybe the fedora atheists should be nicer to christianity and maybe this wouldn't happen
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Joementum posted:i would have liked for them to cover whether cake baking is artistic expression kinda glad they didn't given the transcript of the oral arguments on this issue
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tenderjerk posted:clarence thomas: still the mvp of scotus Clarence Thomas clearly avoiding the object in world versus object in mind question
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im a judge and I say this cake is gay as gently caress and im gonna (write) cum all over it
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euphronius posted:why would you go to Daytona In laws vacation club. Free resort stay for 2 weeks
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lol things slipping away faster than expected
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Joementum posted:i don't think a court should actually rule on what does/doesn't count as artistic expression, but it would have made for some fun reading SCOTUS decision on whether games are art please
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FistEnergy posted:In laws vacation club. Free resort stay for 2 weeks oh well enjoy the diesel exhaust for free i guess
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