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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
The weird thing is that the first two seasons of The Expanse dropped the sound over the swearing like The Magicians used to. Now they use alternative takes and dubs. Seems like an in-house decision, not a Syfy one.

My favourite bizarre bit of censorship (in recent years anyway) is American Crime dropping the sound and blacking out the whole screen whenever anyone swore -- like strobe lighting. They'd do it even if you couldn't see the actor swearing. Beautiful.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Alcon may have done it as a last ditch effort to help ratings to keep it from getting a TV-MA rating.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Well they can swear all they want now

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Is it bad that I'm sad that I didn't get to see Kimmy murder an imaginary backpack this season? :ohdear:

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

This weeks episode of Billions opened with a Salt Bae cameo. :psyduck:

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Pose started tonight! I've been pretty excited for this. Not sure if anyone else has watched/is watching, but it's the new Ryan Murphy show and it's set in 80s New York and is going to focus on the ball scene and other things.

Haven't gotten to the premiere yet, myself, but I'm going to watch it after Westworld.

Anyway I didn't see a thread so I threw one up: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3859065

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

bull3964 posted:

Alcon may have done it as a last ditch effort to help ratings to keep it from getting a TV-MA rating.

I don't think anyone pays attention to those and they're absolutely meaningless (being self-applied and extremely vague), literal children watch Walking Dead

e: like the entire reason why Blood Drive and Happy! needed explicit "HEY THIS SHOW IS SERIOUSLY NOT FOR loving CHILDREN YOU MORONS" bumpers at the front is because everyone ignores those :v:

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Jun 4, 2018

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

According to Syfy, they are cool with graphic disembowelment in The Expanse but no fucks allowed. The last episode especially was ridiculous because it showed someone crushing a guy's skull flat to shove the body into a small space.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Mu Zeta posted:

According to Syfy, they are cool with graphic disembowelment in The Expanse but no fucks allowed. The last episode especially was ridiculous because it showed someone crushing a guy's skull flat to shove the body into a small space.

as we've established, this is all on Alcon or someone else before SyFy in the production chain- pretty much every SyFy show uses gently caress-words now except Expanse, and I would be very surprised if there's special S&P rules for that show

BrandonGK
May 6, 2005

Throw it out the airlock.

Mu Zeta posted:

According to Syfy, they are cool with graphic disembowelment in The Expanse but no fucks allowed. The last episode especially was ridiculous because it showed someone crushing a guy's skull flat to shove the body into a small space.

Even network procedurals your grandma watches like NCIS or The Blacklist will have multiple bloody headshots per episode.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA7gvhwC9RI

Wow aaand three copies of Drop Dead Fred

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

zoux posted:

Wow aaand three copies of Drop Dead Fred

:lol:

That really does make me wonder what other garbage got packaged with movies people wanted to see. Did Jurassic Park come bundled with three copies of Sidekicks?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Rarity posted:

Is it bad that I'm sad that I didn't get to see Kimmy murder an imaginary backpack this season? :ohdear:

From the moment it showed up, I wanted it dead.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Will it now



Don't tell me what to do AMC!!!

I think the kid playing Eugene is doing a good job but the way he talks and the make up really grosses me out.

The casting in general is really good. Ruth Negga and Dominic Cooper have really bad Texas accents but otherwise they are fine and Joesph Gilgun is insanely good as Cassidy. Graham McTavish is great as the saint as well

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, I fell like 140 pages behind in this thread.

Is Kimmy Schmidt’s season split in half? And is this the final season?

I thought it was a big step up from S3, which I didn’t really like that much (aside from Boobs in California), and I lost it at ‘Oh I don’t deliver, I digornio’

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yes and yes. There’s also a movie to come after the second half of the season.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I'm not 100% sure the movie has been confirmed yet, just that it's how they would like to close everything out. It's probably going to happen, but I'm guessing things aren't fully ironed out.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Looking up and I didn’t realise the second half of the season isn’t coming out until January. What a bunch of poo poo.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

Iron Crowned posted:

:lol:

That really does make me wonder what other garbage got packaged with movies people wanted to see. Did Jurassic Park come bundled with three copies of Sidekicks?

Man I worked at a mom & pop video store in the mid 90's and yeah that was pretty standard. They'd get owners jacked for stupid poo poo like the tee shirt and sunglasses that was in that ad too. One weird thing that happened for a while was that it'd be cheaper to go buy a copy of a movie from Sam's Club or Blockbuster than to buy from the distributors directly because those companies got huge discounts so I'd have to wait for them to open early in the morning so I could get them back to the store to be ready to rent by 10:00am.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I remember that if you lost a video the replacement fees were like $100 a pop so I assumed that rental stores had to pay out the rear end per copy

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Croatoan posted:

One weird thing that happened for a while was that it'd be cheaper to go buy a copy of a movie from Sam's Club or Blockbuster than to buy from the distributors directly

That's still a thing actually with a bit more contract fuckery thrown in.

Redbox buys Disney movies at retail due to the limitations that Disney puts on buying directly from them (large blackout window.)

This led to Disney sueing Redbox (and losing) because Redbox was reselling the digital download codes that came with the retail discs.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

zoux posted:

I remember that if you lost a video the replacement fees were like $100 a pop so I assumed that rental stores had to pay out the rear end per copy

I figured that was a thing to prevent people from stealing the tapes. Otherwise it'd be cheaper to "borrow" the tape (and never return it) than it would be to just buy the thing in the first place.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Stealing a tape and risk the wrath of the FBI? No thank you.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Escobarbarian posted:

Looking up and I didn’t realise the second half of the season isn’t coming out until January. What a bunch of poo poo.

Yeah, this hasn't worked for me at all. The seasons been funny but it's halted the second it got some momentum. Maybe if they'd increased the episode order to 16 and done 2x8 it would've been better, but 6 (5, really) seemed pointless.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Open Source Idiom posted:

I figured that was a thing to prevent people from stealing the tapes. Otherwise it'd be cheaper to "borrow" the tape (and never return it) than it would be to just buy the thing in the first place.



No, it was a holdover before home video ownership market was a thing.

VHS tapes were priced in the three digit range and anyone could technically buy them, but they were really only for rental outlets.

Gradually, the idea that people may want to build a library of movies at home took hold in the late 80s/early 90s and prices fell dramatically to the point where a VHS copy of a movie may only cost you $40.

However, those price drops didn't carry through to distribution to video rental outlets. I think there might have been a lawsuit or two in there to normalize pricing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Anyway, thanks Netflix.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

zoux posted:

I remember that if you lost a video the replacement fees were like $100 a pop so I assumed that rental stores had to pay out the rear end per copy

I always thought it was a licensing thing because you're renting the video out rather than just being some dork who owns it at home.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I worked at Blockbuster in high school and I remember the Casino double VHS was something like 200$ if you lost it. Also goddamn that job was fun. Inventory night was never right because we were all high as poo poo.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Matt Zerella posted:

I worked at Blockbuster in high school and I remember the Casino double VHS was something like 200$ if you lost it. Also goddamn that job was fun. Inventory night was never right because we were all high as poo poo.

Was that because it was too long to fit on one tape? I had the extended version of the first Lord of the Rings movie on video (despite having the normal movies on dvds) and it all fit on one thing.

(Casino is better than Goodfellas, by the way.)

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

You could cram a lot on a VHS, it would just impact the quality (lol).

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Our copy of Braveheart was on two tapes, I think

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Wheat Loaf posted:

Was that because it was too long to fit on one tape? I had the extended version of the first Lord of the Rings movie on video (despite having the normal movies on dvds) and it all fit on one thing.

(Casino is better than Goodfellas, by the way.)

Yes, there were a few movies that did that for VHS, I can't really recall which ones they were anymore though.

Are you sure it wasn't the theatrical cut of that LotR movie? I remember at the time there was a lot of buzz about how there would be a lot of extra minutes of movie in the home video release, without comment on it being part of a second release. A lot of people, my family included, ended up buying the theatrical edition of Fellowship of the Ring, expecting the extended edition (which didn't come out for several months).

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Iron Crowned posted:

Yes, there were a few movies that did that for VHS, I can't really recall which ones they were anymore though.

All three of the Godfather movies were on two tapes. I forget where the cuts were, though.

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE

IRQ posted:

I always thought it was a licensing thing because you're renting the video out rather than just being some dork who owns it at home.
Nahh, that was the argument the distributor tried to sell but owners threw a fit (probably a lawsuit as someone else mentioned) and eventually they just got into the idea of movies being priced for resale. There were a few years where some were priced for resale yet others would still be over $100. It wasn't even logical as to which ones would be expensive. Big hits would sometimes be expensive but then crap like Beethoven's 3rd was expensive as hell?

As for the movies that didn't fit on one tape, IRQ is right. When Casino and Braveheart both came out they were on two tapes because there wasn't much compression. Something like six months later they'd try to get owners to buy new copies that were on 1 tape but these had lovely quality because they compressed the gently caress out of them.

Working there was fun as hell. There'd be so many times I didn't have many customers so I basically got paid for watching movies all night. Also we'd fight over the movie screeners because they were free and you got to see a movie like a month or two before it was released.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Standard VHS tapes were 2hr in SP, 4hr in LP, and 6 hour in EP/SLP.

You could fit more tape on a spool and eek out a bit more than 2hr on SP for commercial movies, but generally if the movie was over 2hr it had to be split to multiple tapes or it had to be downgraded in quality.

It was also a thing where rental copies were recorded at LP or SLP to save on unit cost at the expense of quality.

SP was around 250 lines of resolution. LP was about 230, and SLP was considerably worse.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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In PAL Land, standard VHS tapes were E180 (3 hours) and E240 (4 hours) were almost as common. SP and LP (2x) were the only two modes.

I hope everyone who dared watch a commercial movie on an oil rig was thrown in jail, as per the warnings at the start.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It's funny that with all the focus on aspect ratios and resolutions today that people just accepted and even preferred 4:3 cut movies or even....pan and scan. My parents hated letterboxing.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Yeah the ones I specifically remember being double tape units were Casino, Braveheart, and all The Godfather movies. There were a few others too. I do not remember much else about that job.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I hated letterboxing too as a kid but in my defense I was too young and stupid to know any better. I didn't even realize they cut off parts of the screen, ugh.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


zoux posted:

It's funny that with all the focus on aspect ratios and resolutions today that people just accepted and even preferred 4:3 cut movies or even....pan and scan. My parents hated letterboxing.

You still have those people today that can't stand scope movies on a 16:9 display.

Then you have 18:9 aspect ratio that's popular for TV directors now.

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