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hoiyes posted:Luke gunner apparently 30 points! I knew nullifying half the point of 2.0 needed to be expensive, but wow.
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Arquinsiel posted:I'm not sure the title is strictly necessary, unless we can work out what the tokens are and if removing them is good or not. Jam, Ion, stress, and tractors, iirc.
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Yeah, you really need to weigh it up. With the potential to have upgrades that prevent spending force tokens for their effect, are you really going to get more value from Luke, over a Z with missiles, or something like Ezra that's half the points and can get a second shot off? I think Bistan will be the best choice for Han's Gunner.
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Panzeh posted:Jam, Ion, stress, and tractors, iirc.
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Panzeh posted:Jam, Ion, stress, and tractors, iirc.
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Store champ kits have leaked. Supposedly Australia is only getting 12 due o a FFG gently caress up.
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Raged posted:Store champ kits have leaked. Supposedly Australia is only getting 12 due o a FFG gently caress up. LOL wat? Hopefully they make it up with other swag (as they have done for other places in the past)
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Luke gunner at 30 seems kinda ridiculous tbh. I think theyre falling into the same trap they did post wave 3 where they got so affraid of B-wing efficiency they priced the E-wing and defender into uselessness. At least this time they can adjust bad prices faster.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Luke gunner at 30 seems kinda ridiculous tbh. I think theyre falling into the same trap they did post wave 3 where they got so affraid of B-wing efficiency they priced the E-wing and defender into uselessness. At least this time they can adjust bad prices faster. There's also the benefit of having a force token to spend as a focus when you don't need to change arc, still, it's probably a touch high, but obviously it's better to shoot high than shoot low.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Luke gunner at 30 seems kinda ridiculous tbh. I think theyre falling into the same trap they did post wave 3 where they got so affraid of B-wing efficiency they priced the E-wing and defender into uselessness. At least this time they can adjust bad prices faster. At least this time they can adjust bad prices at all(and without making mandatory "Refit"upgrades that have negative point costs.)
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banned from Starbucks posted:Luke gunner at 30 seems kinda ridiculous tbh. I think theyre falling into the same trap they did post wave 3 where they got so affraid of B-wing efficiency they priced the E-wing and defender into uselessness. At least this time they can adjust bad prices faster. Yeah almost 2x the old Emperor is a little insane but hopefully they make the app worth it and push monthly fixes when they see stuff is underperforming. alg fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Jun 4, 2018 |
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hoiyes posted:Talk on the town is 98 point base for Dash, with crew and gunner slot. Luke gunner apparently 30 points! Yup. COnfirmed in person with Alex Davey on Saturday. Luke Gunner is priced to be a crutch. You can rely on him if you want but you lose a LOT of efficiency from your list, AND you lose the opportunity to get double shots with Bistan or Ezra or VTG or etc etc etc. Which are all costed at ten or less. So build your hyperfalcon if you want, but it will still onyl get one shot a round, and it'll need two or more to plug through 4+ ship lists in time.
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ffg forums posted:If a 74 point corran double shots at initiative 5, surely an initiative 1-2 defender can do the same for 72... right? I can't tell if these people are real anymore. He does have a stormtrooper avatar though
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I'm honestly not sure where the Defender will fall from a balance perspective. The new one is an absolutel BEAST - but priced not just at 'the bare minimum for no more than 2 per list' but at Brobot level for the minimum PS? I'm not sold, unless they get some sort of brobot ability to double tap or similar.
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thespaceinvader posted:I'm honestly not sure where the Defender will fall from a balance perspective. The new one is an absolutel BEAST - but priced not just at 'the bare minimum for no more than 2 per list' but at Brobot level for the minimum PS? Yeah I'm expecting a TieD title, priced accordingly.
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Going to be really cool to see 1 ace+ generics lists become common.
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hoiyes posted:Yeah I'm expecting a TieD title, priced accordingly. Configuration, but yeah. And.. maybe? So far they typically don't seem to want to put in ship specific additional cards unless there's a good reason - specifically double-sided cards that have two different options like S Foils and Pivot Wing. I'm not sure what the second side would be for /d to make it need the card. Raged posted:Going to be really cool to see 1 ace+ generics lists become common. I'm super looking forward to running ace/miniswarm again.
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I wonder if they'll get adventurous enough with the app-specific pricing to do things like 'each additional ship of the same type costs an extra X percent' or multipliers based on initiative or something. I mean, on one hand, I think there should be the possibility of triple X-Wing or Interceptor or whatever lists. On the other hand, lore wise, a Defender really should be the equivalent of six or eight TIE Fighters. They've already said that upgrades may be priced differently for different ships, maybe we'll see multipliers for specific pilot combos, too. To use a random example with made up numbers and pilots that I don't think exist in the same faction in 2.0: "Miranda is fifty points. Nym is fifty points. Miranda + Nym is 120 points."
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I still hope that most the smaller ships have very low cost generics so that you can run largish lists of low skill generics or a couple of uniques. Need more swarms than just TIE/ln
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OniPanda posted:I still hope that most the smaller ships have very low cost generics so that you can run largish lists of low skill generics or a couple of uniques. Need more swarms than just TIE/ln Basic wookiees are 46, (23 in 1.0), and they're pretty drat great. I can see a lot of other ships being slightly cheaper.
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I feel like they are going to try real hard to keep upgrade prices consistent. They know they have the option to make Lone Wolf cost 5 more points for one ship type (or even just one pilot), but I have to assume they would only go down that road as an emergency. Like, one very specific list is way too strong and they want to nuke it by pushing the stock list past 200 points. Having Lone Wolf cost +/– 10 points depending on ship/pilot would be wayyyy too confusing. I'll go so far as to guess they never actually do it and all prices stay normalized.
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ConfusedUs posted:Basic wookiees are 46, (23 in 1.0) OH BOY STILL 4 WOOKIEE SHIPS I AM SO EXCITED <eats bullet>
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enigmahfc posted:OH BOY STILL 4 WOOKIEE SHIPS I AM SO EXCITED <eats bullet> Reinforce is a bit nerfed
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Panzeh posted:Reinforce is a bit nerfed More than a bit really. It can't cancel the last result and is less forgiving regarding flanking.
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I just want to run a Defender and a small Interceptor Swarm for maximum bent wing action.
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want to run a Defender and a small Interceptor Swarm for maximum bent wing action. Yeah, that’s similar to what I’m kickin around in my head. An Advanced x1 with twin ties and twin ints. Or a full alphabet. Hell, if the generics for most ships are usable, that’d be great too
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I find myself favoring no aces and identical ships so that I can move in any order I choose and there is no lynchpin I need to worry about protecting. Very happy to learn everything seems balanced around the stock TIE
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I'm genuinely torn between "alphabet soup", "Red Flat", and "big ship plus escort" for 2.0 and it's maddening that I can't even practice to find out until August.
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I really like the look of 2.0 4-lom with the improved mist hunter dial, advanced sensors and the Jam action.
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want to run a Defender and a small Interceptor Swarm for maximum bent wing action. 
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want to run 3x TIE Advanced for maximum bent wing action.
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3+ interceptor squads is all im asking. God i love interceptors
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I will continue to run all-generic all-interceptor squads so help me god
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Recoome posted:I will continue to run all-generic all-interceptor squads so help me god Current expectation is that they've adequately distinguished the prices of the generics from the aces, and Squints get good linked actions, so you should be fine.
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I am going to spend hundreds of dollars upgrading this game because generic Interceptors are going to be able to fly like Interceptors.
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I hope a Reaper + Striker list will be viable, I love those little guys
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Some last 1.0 Homebrew Which, is actually not that bad at all. I think it looks balanced.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Some last 1.0 Homebrew Two uniques have the same pilot ability...
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Here is the story of how FFG hosed up and now all FFG games in Australia won't have store champ kits. https://intelsweep.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/australia-to-get-leftover-store-champs-kits-for-all-ffg-systems/ It has gotten really bad lately with kits. Aussie shops have yet to receive the metal shield token kits. Edit: Just looking through FB and forums people are loving piiiiiiiisssed Raged fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Nah I've seen the metal shield tokens here though? Edit: if SA gets two kits it'll be enough to go around to all active players lol
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