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vyelkin posted:Tirruni III confirmed Only if he bungles his way through the first two or three times he tries to take the throne.
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habeasdorkus posted:Only if he bungles his way through the first two or three times he tries to take the throne. At least Qadis will get some really sweet architecture.
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Did I have a character in as a general? I forget.
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NewMars posted:Did I have a character in as a general? I forget. Here's a quick reminder. NewMars posted:I'd like to be in as Novayya Aljadid, please?
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I didn't have a general because I couldn't think of a proper name.
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AJ_Impy posted:Here's a quick reminder. Ah, thank you. So, Hashim, did anything happen with Novayya Aljadid?
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Did I even have a general named after me? I don't think I ever specified a name.
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The Congress of Cádiz Part 1: Internal Matters In the dying days of 1835, the great powers of Europe, North Africa and the Near East agreed to meet in a series of conferences to partition the Tirruni Empire, widely referred to as the Congress of Cádiz. The Congress was first formed between Morocco and Russia, who agreed that a post-war balance of power had to be established in order to prevent such ruinous, devastating wars from breaking out in the future. These two powers were quickly joined by Hannover - the dominant German state, and a great power in its own right. As word of these negotiations began to spread, the Grand Vizier of Al Andalus offered Qadis as the staging ground for this congress, a suggestion that was ratified by the leading powers. Before long, the other victors of the Tirruni Wars had also flocked to Qadis, along with a wide array of minor powers and distant spectators. This would be the largest and most influential peace settlement in history, and everyone wanted to be a part of it. And with that, these nations all come together to begin the negotiations regarding their historic claims and deserved rewards. There are nine nations in all: Morocco, Hannover and Russia as the leading powers (each of whom will have 2 votes in international issues); and France-England, Al Andalus, Hungary, Bavaria, Egypt and Armenia (each of whom will have 1 vote in international issues).  One of the most contentious points between all of these powers is the division of the Tirruni Empire, of course, but before that knot can be untied, there are internal matters that must be dealt with. Whilst the congress powers begin meeting at secret parlours and extravagant dinners, Grand Vizier Zulfiqar summons the Majlis al-Shura to settle an important issue. Al Andalus is the only power in the Congress that doesn’t have a hereditary monarch - a major sticking point in relations between them and us, especially since a fifteen year war was just fought in the name of monarchism and absolutism. So Grand Vizier Zulfiqar addresses the Majlis with a simple question: is it time to crown a new Sultan of Al Andalus?  ——— And so the Congress finally begins! So basically, this congress will consist of 5 voting sessions that will help set up the opening scenario in Victoria 2. The first voting session will simply settle the internal matters of the various victors of the Tirruni Wars, but the other four will be centred around redrawing the borders of Europe and the Near East, and establishing a new balance of power that will (allegedly) lead to an enduring peace. In this first vote, we’ll be deciding whether Al Andalus should become a hereditary monarchy once more. This is an internal issue, so the other congress powers have no say in what will happen, they have their own internal matters to deal with. So yeah, this comes down to the Majlis al-Shura. The options are: A - Yes, let us crown the current Jizrunid claimant! Effects: we invite the strongest Sunni Jizrunid claimant to become Sultan of Al Andalus; this will give us a significant relations boost with the other members of the Congress, which may be important in winning over allies and supporters, and there will be other dynastic effects that come into play later in the game. B - Yes, but we grant the crown to a more deserving king… Effects: with this option, we will offer the crown to Raed Zulfiqar, bringing a new dynasty to power; this will also give us a relations boost with the other members of the Congress, but the long-term dynastic effects will be different from those in Option A. C - No, the Majlis will retain absolute power! Effects: with this option, the hereditary nobles of the Majlis al-Shura continue to rule Al Andalus. We don’t get any relations boost with the other Congress powers, but there are no other effects. That’s pretty much it. I think I’ll leave around 24 hours for each vote, but I may end them a few hours earlier if everyone’s going for one option.
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C We need no king.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:03
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There's only one reason we're still alive today: Raed Zulfiqar. Without him we would've fallen to our petty squabbling way before we could've even had a shot at Morocco.  B
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Jun 5, 2018 19:05
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C yo, fuuuuck monarchy
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Jun 5, 2018 19:09
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B, let the almost certainly short reign of the Zulfiqar dynasty begin!
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Come on guys, let's just vote A. Huh? We can do that. Let's have a nice time. Our diplomatic game has been loving dire the last 200 years and if it takes a guy with a crown to help turn it around then so be it. crimea fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Jun 5, 2018 19:11
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A Long live the Jizrunids! Although I wouldn’t be mad at Zulfiqar so if it’s looking tight I’ll hop on over to him.
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A we were good under the Jizrunids and now we aren't
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C. This time we'll get it right.....*snort*
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Jun 5, 2018 19:17
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C Does nobody remember the mad sultans? The sultana? Does nobody register that the last sultan of al Andalus was a wretched, evil man that we crushed under our boots?
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Jun 5, 2018 19:18
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B, the man who defeated Tirruni deserves the crown!
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A A Sunni Jizrunid. If we'd had one of those fifty years ago we'd still be a top tier power.
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A Please don’t make all of Europe insanely mad at us for the very first vote.
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Zikan posted:A To be fair, it does seem like this is more status quo vs more chances for friends than us getting the rope to hang ourselves.
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B We need to start making allies, but we don't want to go backwards in time to a Jizrunid who will behave like it's still 1670. Zulfi is our man and would let us define what it means to be a modern king.
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B - to reinstate the Jizrunids is to learn nothing from our disastrous final monarchs. To remain kingless is to learn nothing from alienating all of Europe. And if any man has earned the highest honour of this country, it is Zulfiqar. Long live the king!
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Jun 5, 2018 19:25
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Option B: A New Dynasty Bring in some new blood!
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there is something darkly hilarious about us plunging al-andalus into a devastating, empire-shattering civil war to unseat the monarchy, only for us to invite the monarchy back in 68 years later. e: oh, and i guess al-andalus self-destructing is also what enabled tirruni's rise to power, so we have that on our hands too QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Jun 5, 2018 19:27
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B! Zulfiqar led us through the most perilous years in living memory and brought us to our greatest territorial extent since the collapse of the Jizrunid state. I can think of no better Sultan than he. (The most Al-Andalus way this vote could go is a majority in favor of crowning a monarch, but C having more votes than either A or B)
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B. As others point out, the Jizrunids have almost exclusively run the gamut from "mad genius" to "legendary incompetent," to say nothing of their constant health scares. Their bloodline is either cursed or, shall we say, excessively pure, and in Zulfiqar we may at least find some hope that our new Sultan will prioritize the country over his own entitlement and whims.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:30
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C No kings, no way.
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B. To be frank, a noble oligarchy is hardly any better.
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MaxieSatan posted:B. As others point out, the Jizrunids have almost exclusively run the gamut from "mad genius" to "legendary incompetent," to say nothing of their constant health scares. Their bloodline is either cursed or, shall we say, excessively pure, and in Zulfiqar we may at least find some hope that our new Sultan will prioritize the country over his own entitlement and whims. Don't forget "literally the Antichrist" as far as Jizrunid blood goes.
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A, though I’m also fine with B. As long as we get a king and have an easier time getting more out of this peace conference. Plus, the most powerful Jizrunid I can think of rules Palermo. We might get ourselves a free slice of southern italy. Pizza here we come! Also, we’ll just depose him in a bloody revolution later (5 years tops). Ralepozozaxe fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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A message from Revolutionary Ibriz: C gently caress the Jizrunids, gently caress kings, long live the republic!
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Jun 5, 2018 19:41
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We're not a republic.
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B We need ride the waves cautiously. A Jizurund is dangerous and new dynasty may easily be thrown out later if necessary.
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B I may be mistaken, but Raed Zulfiqar turned out to be pretty anti-absolutism, didn't he? Probably our best bet for a sultan who'll accept a very restrictive constitution. And no one will want to mess with arguably the greatest military commander alive. Plus - if we don't give him the job, the army will next time the Majilis kills itself... Any idea what his eldest son is like?
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C of course, but i can grudgingly accept B. So long as we don't bring back those loving Jizrunid bastards.
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B seems like a cautious option. As much as I want to go C it’d probably be a good idea to maintain relationships with the rest of Europe.
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Voting B Hail!
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