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Bigass Moth posted:Why does NXT use more traditional Indy booking and storytelling, but then force the workers to do WWE style when they get called up? Shouldn’t their training be more WWE focused? NXT's primary purposes are to get people to watch/spend money on a WWE product while pretending they aren't, to keep talent away from competition, and to make sure HHH can point to something so investors don't piss themselves when Vince steps down.
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sticklefifer posted:In the vein of GAB '06 and TLC '17, are there any other PPVs (doesn't have to be WWE) that had major changes in several matches to their top billed card at the last minute? Souled Out 2000 kept changing during the last week. Goldberg cut his hand up which cancelled Bret Hart vs Goldberg. Then Bret Hart's concussions pulled him out of what I believe would have been Bret Hart vs Sid. With a week to go Russo wanted to do a battle royal for the belt with Tank Abbott winning, he got sent home for that. Jeff Jarrett got injured taking him out of the featured 3 match series as well. This led to Benoit vs Sid for the title and Kidman vs the Revolution in a 3 match series.
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sticklefifer posted:In the vein of GAB '06 and TLC '17, are there any other PPVs (doesn't have to be WWE) that had major changes in several matches to their top billed card at the last minute? No Mercy '07 ended up redoing the card so there were 3 world title matches. MassRafTer posted:Souled Out 2000 kept changing during the last week. Goldberg cut his hand up which cancelled Bret Hart vs Goldberg. Then Bret Hart's concussions pulled him out of what I believe would have been Bret Hart vs Sid. With a week to go Russo wanted to do a battle royal for the belt with Tank Abbott winning, he got sent home for that. Jeff Jarrett got injured taking him out of the featured 3 match series as well. This led to Benoit vs Sid for the title and Kidman vs the Revolution in a 3 match series. Souled Out 2000 was probably the king. It did go from Sid/Bret to Sid/JJ to Sid/Benoit over the span of a week. Goldberg didn't just cut up his hand, this was the window breaking incident that nearly severed his arteries and sidelined him for 5 months. But this was still like 3 or so weeks out from the PPV so they replaced him with Sid. Jarrett got concussed by Jimmy Snuka on the go home Thunder by taking a Supafly Splash off a cage from all things. Plus that's not even getting into how Russo's release forced the Sullivan situation and led to Benoit getting his release the day after winning the title.
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Jun 4, 2018 18:26
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Is there a blade job near as bad as Eddie's during Judgment Day 2004?
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Jun 5, 2018 14:47
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Undertaker did a sick one in his first cell match against Brock Lesnar.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a blade job near as bad as Eddie's during Judgment Day 2004? Jay Briscoe's vs Joe at ROH At Our Best is so much worse. The blood clots and hangs off his forehead. Literally hangs as a solid off his forehead. I remember Jericho's vs The Heavenly Bodies being worse too but it was hard to tell since it was off an old VHS that had been copied a bunch.
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Was there a specific incident that caused the end of blood or was it just the progressive PG turn the company was making?
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OldTennisCourt posted:Was there a specific incident that caused the end of blood or was it just the progressive PG turn the company was making? Undertaker did a segment with Randy's dad Bob Orton in 2006 where Bob bladed, and Undertaker was furious after finding out after that Bob had Hepatitis C It's curable now, but wasn't back then
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EugeneJ posted:Undertaker did a segment with Randy's dad Bob Orton in 2006 where Bob bladed, and Undertaker was furious after finding out after that Bob had Hepatitis C Michaels bladed during the Jericho feud in 2008 and that was the impetus for the ban.
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Jun 5, 2018 15:26
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a blade job near as bad as Eddie's during Judgment Day 2004? John Cena, Judgement Day 2005, in an I Quit match against the same opponent.
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Jun 5, 2018 15:57
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MassRafTer posted:Michaels bladed during the Jericho feud in 2008 and that was the impetus for the ban. Wasn't that also the year of Linda's first Senate run?
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Shiki Dan posted:Wasn't that also the year of Linda's first Senate run? No, that was 2 years later.
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Jun 5, 2018 18:18
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Blading was always pretty stupid and in the mid-2000's they were completely overdoing it to the point of meaninglessness.
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dont even fink about it posted:Blading was always pretty stupid and in the mid-2000's they were completely overdoing it to the point of meaninglessness. It's not like they all became meaningless, it still worked very effectively for Lesnar/Taker, JBL/Eddy and JBL/Cena. Without it the latter two would have been forgettable as hell.
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i'd much rather guys sparingly blade than having brock lesnar actually punch guys in the forehead until they open up
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Jun 5, 2018 19:07
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I mean he's gonna do it anyway
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Jun 5, 2018 19:24
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a blade job near as bad as Eddie's during Judgment Day 2004? Foley and Flair lost about a gallon of blood in a throwaway match on Impact back in 2010. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35d55p
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rovert posted:That's what the last big WWE Creative team member to be released said. NXT doesn't really produce what WWE writers want/need and Vince's demand. They all come in overprepared so who cares. If you just want someone ready to have a bland match and get 50/50 booked while reading bad lines that aren't in any way tailored to them specifically, anyone could do that. You don't need a preparatory system for that.
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Timby posted:Foley and Flair lost about a gallon of blood in a throwaway match on Impact back in 2010. Is Impact wrestling still allowing/encouraging chair-shots to the head as a way to differentiate them from PG WWE?
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Well hey, it's in the name,
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That Foley and FlairTimby posted:Foley and Flair lost about a gallon of blood in a throwaway match on Impact back in 2010. One minute in and they’ve both bladed.
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MassRafTer posted:It's not like they all became meaningless, it still worked very effectively for Lesnar/Taker, JBL/Eddy and JBL/Cena. Without it the latter two would have been forgettable as hell. Yeah like blading isn't even in the top 10 of worst aspects of the business tbh. I don't want Flair out there bleeding every loving week, but one or two matches a year having blood would add a lot to the right match
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Jun 5, 2018 23:30
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Bigass Moth posted:That Foley and Flair I'm more sensitive to it nowadays because I'm on a blood thinning medication and so the tiniest cut can lead to me bleeding for like a half-hour, but holy poo poo that match made me sick.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:38
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Timby posted:Foley and Flair lost about a gallon of blood in a throwaway match on Impact back in 2010. Just talked to my friend from Florida who once told me she had to get treated for having a shitload of Flair blood all over her hands. She used to work for Universal Studios. It was this match.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:54
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Blood in insanely good in matches. Especially two minutes into the opener or in 7/10 matches on the card.
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:Just talked to my friend from Florida who once told me she had to get treated for having a shitload of Flair blood all over her hands. She used to work for Universal Studios. Flair blood is extremely toxic she's lucky to still have hands
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The first and only big event I ever went to was Summerslam 2016, which ended with Orton getting opened right up by Brock and it was kinda gross irl On Saturday I’m going to my second one at Dominion, where Naito and Jericho are doubtless gonna bleed all over the place too
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The Lesnar/Spanky squash always stood out to me. A pointless bump into the aftermath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh0yH1tVkks&t=432s
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Smoking Crow posted:Flair blood is extremely toxic she's lucky to still have hands Imagine a world where flairs blood was like a xenomorph
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The Croc posted:Imagine a world where flairs blood was like a xenomorph So basically this world.
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My favorite bit of that impact match was when the camera stayed on Flair after the second Barbie shot so you can clearly see him saw at his own head several times. I don’t think Mick bladed at the start. I think he bladed that before he went through the curtain because his hands never touched his head when ric was punching at the bandage.
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If you want probably the worst blade job of all time, look up the Mass Transit incident from ECW. Long story short, New Jack nearly killed a minor.
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Jun 6, 2018 10:20
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I wish we had as much coverage of the New Jack trial as we have had for the CM Punk trial.
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The match where New Jack just straight up stabs a guy. Of course Muta vs Hiroshi Hase, the match that gave birth to the Muta Scale.
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Tbf the new jack-gyspsy joe stabbing dabacle is surprisingly gore free from what I remember
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Unless I remember wrong, NJ stabbed some nobody in Florida, and the Gypsy Joe match was "just" a brutal beating.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a blade job near as bad as Eddie's during Judgment Day 2004? The year previous Vince bladed against zack 'the novelty act' gowen at Vengeance and it was brutal and completely uncalled for. Like Vince barely touched the chair and it was just a brutal gusher. Then he pinned gowen. I believe it made a botchamania for how ridiculous it was and how out of nowhere it was.
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ColeM posted:The year previous Vince bladed against zack 'the novelty act' gowen at Vengeance and it was brutal and completely uncalled for. Like Vince barely touched the chair and it was just a brutal gusher. Then he pinned gowen. Man, on top of the Hogan Wrestlemania match and the Undertaker Survivor Series match, Vince just loved to blade in 2003 didn't he.
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Vince has always loved the juice, big time
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