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Gotta go for B. Because dammit, somebody in charge around here needs to be competent, and it's not going to be us!
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C Absolutely not. We did not go through all of that bullshit to become a monarchy again.
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Patter Song posted:B We might get to be the starting point of this world's Revolutions of 1848! Man, Imagine the secret societies in Northern Italy after a decade of every country just stacking bodies there in neat little piles. It's like Belgium but worse.
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B seems like the best choice.
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I don't know how parties are going to work in the Vicky 2 phase, but if there's a republican party i'll give them my full support.
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Allah placed the Jizrunids on the Throne and they performed admirably. We took the throne away from them and we had centuries of decline and warfare. Put them back!
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Frionnel posted:I don't know how parties are going to work in the Vicky 2 phase, but if there's a republican party i'll give them my full support. Yeah, there will be a party that aims to steer the nation onto a more democratic path. It'll be a tough road though.
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Voting for B, what could possibly go wrong
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Hashim posted:Yeah, there will be a party that aims to steer the nation onto a more democratic path. It'll be a tough road though. Well i didn't necessarily mean democratic. 
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Hashim posted:Yeah, there will be a party that aims to steer the nation onto a more democratic path. It'll be a tough road though. Everybody loves the Tirrunist Restorers, a party that loves equal rights and the ideals of the Revolution! *five seconds pass* We regret to inform you that Moroccan ironclads have burned down Qadis.
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B Zulfiqar is the most competent leader we've had in ages.
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A, because we need someone to be executed by communists 
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joining the Bandwagon, I think an actual person living a solid 80 year life to this point would have had a life experience rooted in the fact that Monarchy was threatened with destruction but came out on top of the bloodiest known wars in history, and now they're dictating the terms. nobody has to like it but nobody living through it could've missed the point, I'm thinking we, a kleptocratic fake republic, allied with a revolutionary empire to attack our shared enemy of Monarchy. we failed and turned coat at about the last possible moment to rescue our prospects. our kleptocratic fake republic just went from least bad option to complete non option, in my opinion. moving toward a constitutional Monarchy might actually be a faster track to a worthwhile republic than letting the majlis have their medieval way. maybe having a king to keep them busy will let the real citizens of andalus get power faster. I think the B dynasty is a better gamble than the A one edit also I like that you're using the vagaries of first past the post elections to gently caress with us but I suspect the jizrunids won't have the spoiler vote capacity you'd need. but it would be funny if a plurality hosed everything up. since, you know, that happens oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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We need a sultan to deal peaceably with the other powers. Let us install one who has done a sultan's work in fact, not just theory. Let us raise up one who understands Al-Andalus as it stands today, not as it stood in his grandfather's time. One who understands and accepts the rule of law. Let us make a Sultan of Raed Zulfiqar. B
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A tie between the two monarchies is more likely than the antimonarchists having a higher total than both, B has a solid lead whilst A and C are pretty close.
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C. We are more enlightened and closer to Allah than any king or sultan. Out of curiosity though, who is the Jizrunid pretender we'd invite under A? Or will that also be up to Victoria RNG?
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C No gods, no sultans, only the Majlis
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B Zulfiqar is by far the best option for creating a Constitutional Monarchy, as we know he'd be an enthusiastic architect of the first word in that phrase. I can see no better, more stable option.
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Zulfiqar is 70. He is going to be dead in short order.
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AJ_Impy posted:Zulfiqar is 70. He is going to be dead in short order. We'll have 10 years of enlightened constitutional monarchy and then his son will become sultan and immediately start backpedaling towards absolutism, leading to a revolt and the founding of the second Andalusi Republic which will last 3 years before we elect the grandson of Tirruni president and whoopsies he immediately becomes a dictator. This is how you get democracy, trust me.
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AJ_Impy posted:Zulfiqar is 70. He is going to be dead in short order. And then his son is going to turn out to be a syphillitic Shia. Clayren posted:This is how you get democracy, trust me. Can't wait for the Qadis Commune event to fire!
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B. Because Zulfiqar is way cooler a name than Jizrunid and I wouldn't mind seeing it in further updates.
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Switch my A to a B, because ZearothK is correct about it being a cooler name.
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AJ_Impy posted:Zulfiqar is 70. He is going to be dead in short order. That's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Switch my A to a B, because ZearothK is correct about it being a cooler name. 
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Your choices are picking from the deposed remnants of the old regime, possibly with ties to the Jizrunids of Palermo, an old, tired man who just wanted to retire after leading the country through its toughest time in a thousand years, or sticking with an unelected body of misguided fools. I see sadness in your future, no matter what you do. habeasdorkus posted:And then his son is going to turn out to be a syphillitic Shia. Wasn't that what the last Jizrunid was?
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GSD posted:C. We are more enlightened and closer to Allah than any king or sultan. That would be the second son of Ibrahim-Yah, Emir of Palermo (his first son would inherit Palermo, to be clear). All of the Andalusi Jizrunids were either executed or forced into hiding, so the chances of digging one of them up are nonexistent at this point.
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B Let us stay in good graces with our European brethren.
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Yeah, seems like three bad options. out of which B seems the least bad one. Zulfiqar is old and not interested in absolute monarchy it seems, so let's use that for what it's worth before he dies.
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Hashim posted:That would be the second son of Ibrahim-Yah, Emir of Palermo (his first son would inherit Palermo, to be clear). All of the Andalusi Jizrunids were either executed or forced into hiding, so the chances of digging one of them up are nonexistent at this point. I'm trying to imagine how the offer would be explained to this kid without him outright refusing at worst and going in with extreme trepidation at best
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:I'm trying to imagine how the offer would be explained to this kid without him outright refusing at worst and going in with extreme trepidation at best Oh he wouldn't be a kid. Ibrahim-Yah's been ruling Palermo since before the Bavarian Revolution, way back in eu4, so his sons would be getting on in years as well. He also remembers the days where the Jizrunids still ruled in Iberia, which could play some part in his decision. As for the second son actually accepting, I feel like any crown is better than no crown, especially for an ambitious prince with no hopes of inheriting one. hashashash fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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C No sultans, no kings, just Al-Andalus and Allah!
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Gonna go with B! Hopefully he'll help out with a good constitution?
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SlothfulCobra posted:an old, tired man who just wanted to retire after leading the country through its toughest time in a thousand years Sounds like we found this timeline's George Washington.
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As far as I can tell B currently has a commanding lead with 48 votes in favor, followed by C with 20 and A with 10. Looking like it's going to be long live Sultan Zulfiqar.
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When all you closet Monarchists are clamoring to join me at the barricades as Zulfiqar's Mad Son executes the Majlis for failing to bow to his lord Iblis, I'm going to shoot you in the
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habeasdorkus posted:When all you closet Monarchists are clamoring to join me at the barricades as Zulfiqar's Mad Son executes the Majlis for failing to bow to his lord Iblis, I'm going to shoot you in the Closet? All I want is a strong Al-Andalus ruled by a Sunni Sultan, preferably Jizrunid but only the Sunni part is non-negotiable.
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