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Araby and Cathay and so on are way too culturally insensitive; the next game will probably just be daemons and End Times content.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Araby and Cathay and so on are way too culturally insensitive; the next game will probably just be daemons and End Times content. This.
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Jun 5, 2018 21:26
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honestly Dogs of War is going to be fascinating in that regard, because they really had the barest loving skeleton of an army list to begin with
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Jun 5, 2018 21:27
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Haha. Culturally insensitive. Is this going to be another "you can't say nippon" thing
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Jun 5, 2018 21:29
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One of the code branches is "Carpet," Araby's going in and I can't wait. Besides they already have an official Warmaster list and models, while Cathay doesn't have anything from GW.
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Jun 5, 2018 21:36
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Technically the eastern factions got some rules in like, 2nd or 3rd. Amazing creations like “ashigaru”, “samurai”, and “asiatic horde chinamen”
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Jun 5, 2018 21:42
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Araby and Cathay and so on are way too culturally insensitive; the next game will probably just be daemons and End Times content. This argument is incredibly stupid
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Jun 5, 2018 21:43
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Dramicus posted:The map extension would have to be far too big. The only type of those factions that could sort of fit into the Mortal Empires map are the Kingdoms of Ind. They are located just to the right of the gulf. It's likely we will never see any of the far east factions. Kinda liked this (old) map, but everything east of Chaos Dwarves and Ogres is a long shot. Still, adding totally not asian empires and beastman kingdoms would pretty much complete Warhammer Total War.  https://royalpsycho.deviantart.com/art/Warhammer-World-Map-by-Zanzibar-with-nations-654039761
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Jun 5, 2018 22:07
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It seems to me that modern GW are being fairly hands off, "keep the money rolling" with TWW, so I'd imagine that CA has, in not carte blanche, then at least carte-off-white when it comes to adding stuff to their games.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:10
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i'd like ogres. i just want dudes carrying cannons as a unit.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:16
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As long as the magic carpet cavalry don't come with bomb vest infantry, I think making Araby a faction is fine. Fantasy Arabia and fantasy China are pretty far removed from today's political controversies, unless people want to be super particular about appropriation (in which case I guess we'll just have boring fantasy Europe poo poo forever). They're already doing Three Kingdoms, so I don't see why Cathay would be out of bounds.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:21
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hemale in pain posted:i'd like ogres. i just want dudes carrying cannons as a unit. Between Chaos Dorf Earthshakers and Ogre Kingdom Ironblasters, TWW3 is gonna be when the real big boy guns enter the field. 
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Jun 5, 2018 22:23
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Araby and Cathay and so on are way too culturally insensitive; the next game will probably just be daemons and End Times content. I could see this for Nippon, but Cathay just seems like medieval China with magic. I thought Araby seemed too insensitive/on the nose for being literally named Arab-y but after the carpet code branch name thing I'm convinced it's actually coming. Also why was "spaghetti" assumed to mean Dogs of War? The only dog I'm aware of with that name was from Aqua Teen Hunger Force, which also makes me want to play a Moononight faction Angrymantium fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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Jun 5, 2018 22:55
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Angrymantium posted:I could see this for Nippon, but Cathay just seems like mythological China. I though Araby seemed too insensitive/on the nose for being literally named Arab-y but after the carpet code branch name thing I'm convinced it's actually coming. Mostly because they're a faction of not-Italians and have a lot of things like DaVinci inspired flying machine troops etc.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:57
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How are any of these posts real
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Zore posted:Mostly because they're a faction of not-Italians and have a lot of things like DaVinci inspired flying machine troops etc. Sounds like they are putting the factions from Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends into the game. Dogs of War = Vinci, Araby = Alin, now what vague and rarely mentioned faction can be the fill in for Cuotl?? Or just add them to Lizardmen.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:04
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GW decided to nuke the entire setting rather than release armies for the human kingdoms of the Far East
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Jun 5, 2018 23:12
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I mean I'd be 100% on board with an Italian catapult that slung gigantic meatballs, honestly.
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Xarbala posted:GW decided to nuke the entire setting rather than release armies for the human kingdoms of the Far East
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Jun 5, 2018 23:29
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Dandywalken posted:I mean I'd be 100% on board with an Italian catapult that slung gigantic meatballs, honestly. That would be amazing. Someone has to make that a mod.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:31
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add in the halfling steam tank with the gravy cannon and I'm sold
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Jun 5, 2018 23:34
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PlushCow posted:now what vague and rarely mentioned faction can be the fill in for Cuotl?? Or just add them to Lizardmen. Amazons, 10000%
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Jun 5, 2018 23:44
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There is a 0% chance of Cathay happening, they'd have to double the size of the ME map and look how much they had to cut to squeeze game 2's map in
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Jun 6, 2018 00:27
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I'm playing a warriors of chaos run right now and Varg just confederated Helspire Tribe and then the Vanaheimlings a few turns later.
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Wafflecopper posted:There is a 0% chance of Cathay happening, they'd have to double the size of the ME map and look how much they had to cut to squeeze game 2's map in Plenty of time to piss and raise my firstborn child waiting for each turn to end, bring it on. I am gonna get SO MUCH laundry folded!
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Jun 6, 2018 01:13
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meanwhile I just realized Avelorn is a homophone of Avalon and I feel dumb as poo poo
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Wafflecopper posted:There is a 0% chance of Cathay happening, they'd have to double the size of the ME map and look how much they had to cut to squeeze game 2's map in I’m not holding out for Cathay, but I doubt the ME map having to cater to lore would factor into their decisions on making paid DLC. Put any super Far East lords on an edge or some islands by the coast and have the narrator go “Boy you sure are a long way from home, my Lord. Why not massacre the locals and start a new Kingdom” Like how Teclis and Snake woman have completely different starts. Slap ‘em down wherever looks like it needs more action.
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Jun 6, 2018 02:23
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tbh if there were anyone out there who could make warhammer fantasy-styled India, China, and Japan, it'd be CA. There's Empire, Shogun, and the upcoming Ro3K game. And of the two that were in games that were released, they certainly put more thought into bringing these places to life than GW did. But they won't because that's too much work for what's basically just going to be Total Warhammer End Times
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Jun 6, 2018 02:32
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 gently caress off forever tyrion
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Senor Dog posted:
be fair, your army would look considerably like that if the situation was reversed.
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The player's wrath at Tyrion is only deepened by the knowledge that they would have done the exact same thing had their positions been reversed.
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Xarbala posted:tbh if there were anyone out there who could make warhammer fantasy-styled India, China, and Japan, it'd be CA. There's Empire, Shogun, and the upcoming Ro3K game. And of the two that were in games that were released, they certainly put more thought into bringing these places to life than GW did. If it was something like, say, Nippon as Fall of the Samurai armies but with wizards or Ind as the Maratha confederation with tiger dudes (and wizards), I would plop down approximately all the money. As it is there just isn't much there for GW to build off of. At least Araby and Kislev both had minor lists in Warmaster from what my quick Google search told me so I could maybe see them being fleshed out but it seems like a stretch. Unrelated, but after multiple false starts in a chaos campaign, kislev scares me because their doomstacks always came screaming into the chaos wastes and annihilated my armies.
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Aurubin posted:be fair, your army would look considerably like that if the situation was reversed. No! I would have the cool high elf units like erm.. uhh... treekin?
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Don Gato posted:If it was something like, say, Nippon as Fall of the Samurai armies but with wizards or Ind as the Maratha confederation with tiger dudes (and wizards), I would plop down approximately all the money. As it is there just isn't much there for GW to build off of. At least Araby and Kislev both had minor lists in Warmaster from what my quick Google search told me so I could maybe see them being fleshed out but it seems like a stretch. Yeah I'm playing on Normal and even now they're a pain in the butt. Probably having more than one stack would help.
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Angrymantium posted:I could see this for Nippon, but Cathay just seems like medieval China with magic. I thought Araby seemed too insensitive/on the nose for being literally named Arab-y but after the carpet code branch name thing I'm convinced it's actually coming. I don't see what would be insensitive about Araby being so literally named.
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Jun 6, 2018 04:17
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Araby and Cathay are archaic names for Arabia and China, respectively. If GW wanted to keep the theme up, Nippon would instead be called Zipang.
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Jun 6, 2018 04:21
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I'm aware of that. I just don't see the problem with it, especially not to the point where anybody would actively avoid developing the factions because of it.
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Jun 6, 2018 04:33
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I'm agreeing with you, it just sounded like the person you were replying to didn't actually know about it.
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pet peeve: Throgg says "I eat my enemies" but in his little intro clip he throws the dude aside instead of eating him.
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packetmantis posted:pet peeve: Throgg says "I eat my enemies" but in his little intro clip he throws the dude aside instead of eating him. He has standards.
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