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Who was cancelling Lucifer? Fox for airing it or WB due to it being a DC property (and producing?)? With the whole Disney/Fox thing going on (and going off?), maybe there was a sense that should the acquisition happen that there wasn't going to be a continued, long-term home for the series on Fox, anyway? Is the Fox Network part of the Fox deal, though? That Fox/Disney thing feels like it's been teased and talked about for so long that I don't even know who owns what, anymore.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Who was cancelling Lucifer? Fox for airing it or WB due to it being a DC property (and producing?)? I’m pretty sure each company has a team of lawyers that are going to be spending the next few years figuring out exactly who owns what and how much of it.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:03
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JediTalentAgent posted:If Brimstone had just come out 10-15 years later, it'd probably have been fairly successful. I loved that show. John Glover was awesome as Satan.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:10
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There was this one show where The Devil was a recurring character but was played by a different actor/actress every episode but I can't remember what it was called right now Pretty sure it got axed very early too
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Jun 5, 2018 22:22
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Alhazred posted:Did the show explain why the devil would care about solving crimes? In the TV show Lucifer was the reluctant guardian of Hell, banished there by God after his failed rebellion. He decides to make a holiday to LA permanent but realises that he still quite enjoys punishing evil people. He is not evil himself, just self-absorbed and hedonistic. Solving murders scratches an itch, fuels his ego and allows him to get closer to the detective who showed her tits in a movie when she was a teenager.
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Jun 5, 2018 22:36
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Mister Kingdom posted:I loved that show. John Glover was awesome as Satan. Everything about Brimstone was great, and it was really well planned out. There were some nice hidden touches, like the amount of money Zeke has.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:13
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sassassin posted:In the TV show Lucifer was the reluctant guardian of Hell, banished there by God after his failed rebellion. but get this, his lucifer boner powers doesnt work on her. dun dun duuuuun
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Jun 6, 2018 01:06
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remember god the devil and bob? that is all
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Jun 6, 2018 02:05
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Jedit posted:Everything about Brimstone was great, and it was really well planned out. There were some nice hidden touches, like the amount of money Zeke has. I think even the number of souls he had to collect was a number that was fairly close to what a full 4-5 season number of episodes would have come out to be, too. edit: I just remembered the short-lived USA show G vs E. I seem to remember that show had a fairly strong cult following of people trying to save it, but I've not heard much about it in the last dozen or so years.
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Jun 6, 2018 03:15
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Tying a few threads together: https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1003794219515834368
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Jun 6, 2018 03:19
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Tying a few threads together: I really hope Shatner's being facetious and not a jackass, because Tom Ellis is one of his biggest supporters. https://twitter.com/tomellis17/status/1003785142500982784
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Jun 6, 2018 06:11
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Shatner is a fan of the show
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Jun 6, 2018 06:19
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Mister Kingdom posted:I loved that show. John Glover was awesome as Satan. I remember that show now. There was one scene where the main character got visited by an angel and he freaked out because angels look the same as the devil because he's an angel, too.
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Jun 6, 2018 06:59
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:remember god the devil and bob? that is all I do! It was such an inoffensive show, but a lot of NBC(?) stations refused to even air it, and it was cancelled after 3 episodes, because of blaspheme 
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Jun 6, 2018 13:47
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fruit on the bottom posted:I mean I sort of get it. Police procedural is probably the safest format in the history of television, so if you’re worried about any weird show concept not working you can pretty much just wed it to the procedural format and be on your way At some point you have to actually make it weird though, not just make it straight up a police procedural where some of the characters are actually thousand year old devils and angels that look exactly like humans and act like humans. Haven did a much better job of the "weird police procedural" for me.
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Jun 6, 2018 13:49
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:remember god the devil and bob? that is all I always wanted to see it just for the casting of later-years James Garner as the voice of God, but I never got the chance 
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Jun 6, 2018 13:52
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Wait the show was based on that Sandman spinoff comic?!
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Jun 6, 2018 14:01
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Ambitious Spider posted:Wait the show was based on that Sandman spinoff comic?! In name only, but yes. Lucifer is running Lux, Mazikeen is a regular, and Amenadiel is there giving Lucifer poo poo. That's where the resemblance ends.
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Jun 6, 2018 14:50
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Pastry of the Year posted:I always wanted to see it just for the casting of later-years James Garner as the voice of God, but I never got the chance Im sure it holds up just fine.
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Jun 6, 2018 14:54
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Amazon streaming has Babylon 5, so I've been watching that again. It holds up surprisingly well, especially the pacing. Everything except the CG every time they show the station's exterior. Looks like something straight out of Captain Power.
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Jun 6, 2018 16:51
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It always surprises me how well Batman: TAS holds up. I always expect it to be one of those shows that was a fairly good kids' show that just sticks in our memories as really good because we were kids and it was better and different than a lot of kids' shows at the time. But then I actually see an episode, and it's like oh yeah, these characters are all written well, and Bruce Wayne has a personality beyond "playboy", and the music and whole style is awesome. It's a legit good show that holds up well, and there's a reason beyond "It's what I was exposed to as a kid" that a lot of people find it to be one of the best portrayals of Batman and the Joker. As far as actually on topic, a lot of old SNL is terrible. A lot of classic skits are really, really cringy. Like Pat, or the John Belushi samurai skit. Hell, it wasn't that long ago they had Fred Armisen in black face playing Obama because Keenan was the only black guy. I think they get away with some stuff because a cast that small isn't going to have people of the right ethnicity, build, and ability to imitate everyone that they want to satirize? But poo poo like yellowface is still being done instead of either hiring more asians, or just not doing skits about asians. I get Kim Jung Un and poo poo like that, but maybe don't invent characters and skits if you don't actually have someone of that race to play them. Judging by trying to google older lovely skits though, looks like they still do a lot of asian face, and at least once not long ago Colin Jost said democrats lost the election because trans people have too many genders or some poo poo. The Pat one still makes me so mad though. Definitely one of the things that made me loathe and be disgusted by myself for being nonbinary for so long.
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Jun 6, 2018 16:52
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psychopomp posted:Amazon streaming has Babylon 5, so I've been watching that again. It holds up surprisingly well, especially the pacing. Everything except the CG every time they show the station's exterior. Looks like something straight out of Captain Power. Digital rot is probably the biggest tragedy of B5.
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Jun 6, 2018 16:58
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Iron Crowned posted:I do! It was such an inoffensive show, but a lot of NBC(?) stations refused to even air it, and it was cancelled after 3 episodes, because of blaspheme Interesting how that was a pretty isolated event 
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Jun 6, 2018 17:02
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Samuringa posted:Interesting how that was a pretty isolated event As I remember it (I last watched the series in 2010, so I have no idea how much of it might be cringeworthy now), it actually presented a fairly positive view of Christianity, all things considered. Maybe “lower-case christianity,” almost.
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Jun 6, 2018 19:41
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Araenna posted:It always surprises me how well Batman: TAS holds up. I always expect it to be one of those shows that was a fairly good kids' show that just sticks in our memories as really good because we were kids and it was better and different than a lot of kids' shows at the time. But then I actually see an episode, and it's like oh yeah, these characters are all written well, and Bruce Wayne has a personality beyond "playboy", and the music and whole style is awesome. It's a legit good show that holds up well, and there's a reason beyond "It's what I was exposed to as a kid" that a lot of people find it to be one of the best portrayals of Batman and the Joker.
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Araenna posted:It always surprises me how well Batman: TAS holds up. I always expect it to be one of those shows that was a fairly good kids' show that just sticks in our memories as really good because we were kids and it was better and different than a lot of kids' shows at the time. But then I actually see an episode, and it's like oh yeah, these characters are all written well, and Bruce Wayne has a personality beyond "playboy", and the music and whole style is awesome. It's a legit good show that holds up well, and there's a reason beyond "It's what I was exposed to as a kid" that a lot of people find it to be one of the best portrayals of Batman and the Joker. Yeah SNL has some major issues, even today. Michael Che, the other Weekend Update anchor, likes to make pretty tasteless and unfunny jokes and then takes any and all criticism way too personally. Jimmy Fallon straight-up did blackface when he played Chris Rock. For some reason it's very hard to find a video of it online anymore... Plus so many videos have really homophobic portrayals or "jokes". The characters Fred Armisen and Seth Meyers play in this sketch are particularly egregious, and it's only like ten years old.
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Jun 6, 2018 20:18
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Samuringa posted:Interesting how that was a pretty isolated event It was HUGE in the UK, and I'm surprised it wasn't renewed after its initial run and its word-of-mouth success. A show in a similar vein (theology, sex, satire, crude animation) was the British-Canadian production 'Aaargh! The Mr Hell Show' with much-loved British family comedian Bob Monkhouse playing extremely against type as the cursing, sneering title demon (and clearly having the time of his life). https://youtu.be/qd3q2Xuxyys We were totally fine with it. We're a godless folk.. knife_of_justice has a new favorite as of 20:28 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Jun 6, 2018 20:26
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Mister Kingdom posted:John Glover is awesome. Fixed.
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Jun 6, 2018 20:31
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ghost emoji posted:Yeah SNL has some major issues, even today. Michael Che, the other Weekend Update anchor, likes to make pretty tasteless and unfunny jokes and then takes any and all criticism way too personally. quote:Plus so many videos have really homophobic portrayals or "jokes". The characters Fred Armisen and Seth Meyers play in this sketch are particularly egregious, and it's only like ten years old. That one could have been funny and less offensive for 10 years ago if they actually threw the footballs well. Subverting the trope instead of leaning into it. It seems like that would obviously be more funny to even someone homophobic tbh.
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Jun 6, 2018 20:57
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FactsAreUseless posted:All of the 90s-2000s Warner Bros. DC shows are good. Batman, Superman, Justice League, JLU, Young Justice, I forget the others. JLU and Batman are especially great. Counterpoint: "The Zeta Project" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeta_Project maltesh has a new favorite as of 21:36 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Jun 6, 2018 21:34
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FactsAreUseless posted:All of the 90s-2000s Warner Bros. DC shows are good. Batman, Superman, Justice League, JLU, Young Justice, I forget the others. JLU and Batman are especially great. (the original 2003-2006 one, I don't have an opinion about the new one because I don't really watch TV anymore but I know it's polarizing to idiots)
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Jun 6, 2018 21:50
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Teen Titans also aired on WB Kids but I don't know if it was actually one of them but it was drat good TTG is basically Always Sunny for kids with DC superheroes. If that sounds like your poo poo, you'll like it, if that doesn't, you'll probably dislike it.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Teen Titans also aired on WB Kids but I don't know if it was actually one of them but it was drat good The new one is a basically fine show for children.
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maltesh posted:Counterpoint: "The Zeta Project" Which was launched as an episode of FUTURE BATMAN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EbNIFNs3UU
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Jun 6, 2018 21:52
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Volcott posted:Which was launched as an episode of FUTURE BATMAN. FUTURE BATMAN is hilarious to me in the same way as TEENAGE MUTANT HERO TURTLES or GI JOE: INTERNATIONAL HEROES
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Jun 6, 2018 21:55
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It's so good though.
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Jun 6, 2018 21:56
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Batman Beyond was actually one of the ideas that the suits forced the DCAU crew to make and its testament to their skills that they actually made something genuinely good out of it.
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Jun 6, 2018 22:03
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Accordion Man posted:Batman Beyond was actually one of the ideas that the suits forced the DCAU crew to make and its testament to their skills that they actually made something genuinely good out of it. what if batman was also spiderman isn't a bad concept, though
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Jun 6, 2018 22:08
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Accordion Man posted:Batman Beyond was actually one of the ideas that the suits forced the DCAU crew to make and its testament to their skills that they actually made something genuinely good out of it. "Make Batman, but set it in high school!" is one of those decisions you hear about execs making and wonder just how many pills they had taken with their pre-lunch martini. Batman Beyond is a good show. That being said, has Drawn Together aged well? Its humor was borderline offensive at the time, but fron what I remember it always seemed to be poking fun at stereotypes, and not at groups specifically. I'm afraid to rewatch it and learn that what I remember as being a borderline offensive funny cartoon (with a really lovely movie) is actually horribly offensive and I'm just a terrible person for liking it.
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Anybody else remember Static Shock? It was surprisingly decent, hit on some heavy issues, and was pretty ahead of its time.
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