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Hashim posted:It's only been one round of voting, so relations haven't had a chance to change decisively just yet: Wow, Hannover is a lot better than I thought. I concede that they could be allies in the future if we don't irritate them. Of course, if we get another +50 with France, we've got a real good chance of being busom buddies by the end of the Congress. Too bad we can't support French claims while refusing to support Bavarian claims.
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Hashim posted:It's only been one round of voting, so relations haven't had a chance to change decisively just yet: But what could they be so upset about? They won the war didn't they? Must just be a bunch of grumpy gus' 
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Morocco is the only major power which currently holds rightfully Andalusian territory, as if there wasn't already enough reasons to hate them.
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Each vote we cast should come with an automatic -10 to Morocco, simply because they are bitter that we even get to vote.
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Ikasuhito posted:Each vote we cast should come with an automatic -10 to Morocco, simply because they are bitter that we even get to vote. I mean, the reason this conference is in Qadis and not Marrakesh is because we burned it down, so I can imagine there's just a bit of resentment there
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A, because hopefully France will vote in favor of us next vote.
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Ok, based on my whipcount I didn't need to get quite so highfalutin in my language. A's have it very convincingly.
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:I mean, the reason this conference is in Qadis and not Marrakesh is because we burned it down, so I can imagine there's just a bit of resentment there Sweetest +10 prestige a Majli could hope to earn 
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Grizzwold posted:I'm eagerly awaiting fighting for the return of our lost territory at the conference only to have it ripped away from us in the first crisis. Luckily for us, the Balkans look like such a shitshow that they'll probably always take precedence in Crisis temperature.
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A Man, looking to be pals with France and mega-enemies with Morocco. I hardly recognize the place anymore.
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paragon1 posted:A Give us a bit, we'll do something willfully self-destructive before too long. Personally, my bet is on a land war in Asia.
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B. gently caress France.
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You can all stip voting now, its 50+ for A to less than 20 for B. A wins handily.
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A Let's not go full Hohenzollern here.
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C Whatever decision we make will backfire so I say we don't make any.
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A we scratch Frangleterre's back, they scratch ours
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Dance Officer posted:You can all stip voting now, its 50+ for A to less than 20 for B. A wins handily. Yep, looks like A has it in the bag, so Tirruni's empire is going to be carved up between France, Provence and Bavaria. I'll get the next part up in a bit.
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The Congress of Cádiz Part 3: The Balkan Crisis The Majlis al-Shura have decided their stance in the Partition of the Tirruni Empire, and in this matter, they are largely united: Al Andalus will support the claims of Bavaria, Provence and France-England.  Several other congress powers reach the same conclusion, with France-England and Bavaria demanding the return of their territories, backed by both Armenia and Crusader Egypt. Surprisingly, the Russian Empire also pledges its support to this plan, hoping to create a strong ally that can counteract any notions of German unification.  Significant opposition has also arisen to this option, however, led primarily by Hannover. Morocco also throws its weight behind Hannover, perhaps hoping for a more divided and balanced Europe. Hungary follows suit, fearing that a strengthened Bavaria would challenge them over dominance in the Adriatic.  So in the end, the final tally amounts to seven votes for option A (Russia, Al Andalus, France, Bavaria, Armenia, Egypt) and five votes for option B (Hannover, Morocco, Hungary). And so it is decided that western Occitania will be granted to France, the Kingdom of Provence will be restored, parts of northern Italy will be returned to Bavaria, and the Papal States will be restored. In doing this, however, lines have been arbitrarily redrawn down cultural boundaries, all but guaranteeing future tensions and crises in the region. A sizeable population of Occitains find themselves under French control, the seeds of conflict have been sown between France and Provence, and the Italians have no independent kingdom of their own - for now, there is peace, but only time will tell whether a disastrous mistake has just been made.  There is little time to speculate on the future, however, before the Congress moves on to next major topic: the Balkan Crisis. The Republic of Serbia has descended into anarchy and lawlessness, with the pariah state suffering four separate invasions over the past five years. The republic has effectively collapsed, and so the Congress must agree on the fate of the Balkan peninsula. The first option, presented and favoured by the Russian Empire, proposes that the Serbian Republic be partitioned into a myriad of smaller kingdoms, with several territories also awarded to Hungary, Bulgaria and Greece. Russia hopes to extend its influence in the Balkans, a task that becomes much easier when it’s divided into petty kingdoms. The second option is presented by Morocco, who seeks to impede the rapid expansion of Russia. They believe that the survival of an enlarged Serbia is critical to maintaining peace in the Balkan peninsula, once the monarchy is restored of course. So they propose that Serbia retain most of its conquests, with a few paltry concessions made to Hungary and Greece.  Again, the Majlis al-Shura meets to decide what stance Al Andalus will take in the matter: Option A - Carve the Balkans into new nations! Effects: Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, and Albania are all created. A small Serbia survives, stripped of its conquests and with monarchy restored. Significant territories are awarded to Hungary, Bulgaria and Greece. We receive a relations boost with Russia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, and all the new nations. We receive a relations hit with Morocco and Serbia. Option B - An enlarged Serbia survives, with monarchy restored! Effects: Serbia survives with most of its conquests intact, and its monarchy restored. Minor territories are awarded to Hungary and Greece. We receive a relations boost with Morocco and Serbia. We receive a relations hit with Russia, Hungary, Bulgaria and Greece. Option C - Abstain from the vote. Effect: We remain neutral in this matter, so it will be decided by the other powers. Our relations with other nations are unchanged. ——— Reminder that we (Al Andalus) will have 1 vote in this matter, alongside France, Bavaria, Hungary, Armenia, and Egypt. The great powers of Morocco, Russia and Hannover will have 2 votes apiece. So keep in mind that even if our chosen option doesn’t win overall, the relations boost/hits will still take effect, and the other powers will remember how we voted. Also, in the event of a stalemate, the tie is decided in favour of the side with more great powers. hashashash fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 7, 2018 |
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This doesn't concern us (and never will). C
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A A single state owning the entire Balkans will never be stable, and will always threaten the peace in Europe. Dividing the region into small kingdoms is the best option. Besides, getting friendly with Russia surely wouldn't be a bad idea
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Andalusize the Balkans. A
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Seeing as we're all in on the gently caress Morocco train, Russia is also trying to make friends with France, and the Balkans are wholly irrelevant to us, I vote A: Dividing up Styria or Suburbia or whatever.
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A stronger Greece will be an ally against the Almoravids. An united Serbian Kingdom would be a hotbed of crisis that would distract the world from what actually matters.
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Jun 7, 2018 17:12
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A, lol gently caress Morocco and anything they want
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A. It's going to win anyways, might as well suck up to the Russians. Also it's going to be great when Morocco gets sidelined through the entire concert and ends up with nothing.
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Honestly who cares, but I'm pretty sure our national spirit is "gently caress Morocco". A
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A FUUUUCK MOROOOCCOOOO, LAND THAT I HAAAATE
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Greece has earned some sort of compensation for all they went through, and gently caress Morocco anyway. A E. Though I am a tad sore that we will end up helping Hungry.
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C We have no place deciding the future of this part of the world.
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A More of a strategic vote than anything; I think it's a good idea to get friendly with Russia.
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A Balkanize the Balkans!
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A will raise our relations with states that could be useful against Morrocco.
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A Russia scratched our back, we scratch theirs.
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A I’m sure some everything will be fine and no drat foolish thing in the Balkans will happen.
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C, this is so far from concerning us it's not even funny.
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