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Bleck posted:
I'm going to pick on this statement in particular here. You talk about being "required" to grind a certain amount in RPGs, which, isn't even a thing in a well-designed RPG. The encounter design and level curve are set up in such a way that if you just fight enemies that jump you while you make your way around the world, you will be at an appropriate level for your next major encounter as long as you employ a liiiiitttle bit of ya know, strategy. I can't remember the last time I had to actively grind in an RPG. That aside, in the same breath you complain about Pokemon being too easy. Which is it bro? Are you "required" to grind to progress, or are the game so easy that you steamroll everything? You are aware that the EXP share can be turned off, yes? Heck, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are actually balanced around you having it on, such that you can be 5 or so levels higher than your opponent but you're not one-shotting them even with super effective moves. A bunch of fights require some thought and strategy. I'm not saying Pokemon couldn't use some restructuring and balancing and removing the pointless chaff (removing HMs in Sun and Moon helped a ton!) but your arguments are kinda... weird.
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Jun 7, 2018 13:54
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Any RPG sucks if you divide your time between grinding and facerolling. Just turn off the exp share and keep it off until trainers are tough enough for ya. I don't think there's any point in any of the games where you can't overcome a large level differential with enough strategy and/or cheese.
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Jun 7, 2018 14:02
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Ultra sun with xp share on and liberal use of repels I’m pretty much within level of whatever I’m fighting. And the totems + boss type characters require some though so they seem better about challenge in general with it. For my ideal hardmode they’d really just need to give other random trainers 1-2 extra monsters (and somehow not break the xp curve with this).
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Jun 7, 2018 14:10
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Non Hard mode things to do if you want some sort of extra challenge: - Turn off EXP Share - Switch the battling style in the Options so that you're not prompted to switch when you KO a Pokemon Silver Falcon posted:I'm going to pick on this statement in particular here. You talk about being "required" to grind a certain amount in RPGs, which, isn't even a thing in a well-designed RPG. The encounter design and level curve are set up in such a way that if you just fight enemies that jump you while you make your way around the world, you will be at an appropriate level for your next major encounter as long as you employ a liiiiitttle bit of ya know, strategy. I can't remember the last time I had to actively grind in an RPG. That aside, in the same breath you complain about Pokemon being too easy. Which is it bro? Are you "required" to grind to progress, or are the game so easy that you steamroll everything? You are aware that the EXP share can be turned off, yes? Heck, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are actually balanced around you having it on, such that you can be 5 or so levels higher than your opponent but you're not one-shotting them even with super effective moves. A bunch of fights require some thought and strategy. Totally agreed here. I just recently (finallY) played through Ultra Sun and I didn't do hardly a single "unnecessary" battle (barely used Repels but didn't run from any wild Pokemon, also kinda/sorta went out of my way to avoid trainers if I could) and the level curve was such that the Totem Pokemon were lowkey kind of a challenge
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Jun 7, 2018 15:35
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Waffles Inc. posted:Non Hard mode things to do if you want some sort of extra challenge: No EXP Share and Set are good ones, but honestly, a lot of fun in Pokemon come from just how much control you have over the whole thing. It's like the series itself, especially nowadays, is built for challenge runs. You just have so many options, so many possibilities, that add a ridiculous amount of replayability and skill-based challenges that you can safely skip how easy the games are if you aren't literally a child. Nuzlockes, monotype runs, single-Pokemon runs, no items, no Pokemon Centers or Marts, all of the above, you can customize your own experience to a ridiculous extent. On the monotype front Gamefreak could improve though, since there's always types that suffer simply because they come way too late (why is Ice always such a late-game type, it's the single worst type in the game, what the gently caress?)
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Jun 7, 2018 15:45
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Blaze Dragon posted:No EXP Share and Set are good ones, but honestly, a lot of fun in Pokemon come from just how much control you have over the whole thing. It's like the series itself, especially nowadays, is built for challenge runs. You just have so many options, so many possibilities, that add a ridiculous amount of replayability and skill-based challenges that you can safely skip how easy the games are if you aren't literally a child. Gen V with its season mechanic had the perfect opportunity to stick a couple ice types in the encounter tables for early game routes and make em more common in the winter, but noooo.
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Jun 7, 2018 16:03
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absolutely anything posted:you seem like a dweeb who could be easily pushed over Being a dweeb is epic you dumb fucker. Bitch.
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Jun 7, 2018 16:49
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my friends.... please don't fight here ....
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Jun 7, 2018 17:04
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oddium posted:my friends.... please don't fight here .... I'm sorry but you don't have enough badges for them to obey you.
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Jun 7, 2018 17:21
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Pakled posted:Gen V with its season mechanic had the perfect opportunity to stick a couple ice types in the encounter tables for early game routes and make em more common in the winter, but noooo. Gen VI would’ve been the perfect time for Ice to get a new resistance (since Fairy was just added to balance things out) but gamefreak still thinks Ice is OP.
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Jun 7, 2018 17:51
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So speaking of balance, I'm early on in Ultra Sun and I'm unsure if I should use the EXP share this time. I didn't use it in Moon and had a surprisingly hard time, since it seems like they actually took it into account, unlike with XY. I enjoyed the extra challenge, but dd the make Ultra significantly harder or anything?
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Jun 7, 2018 18:01
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Yeah USUM is harder than SM, so just keep the Exp. Share on if you had trouble with SM.
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Jun 7, 2018 18:07
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I want all non-antagonist trainer battles to be optional (having to fight a bunch of kids when you're in the middle of an in-story crisis situation is asinine, or when you run into that one trainer you somehow missed and all you've got on you is your level 5 egg heater and 5 eggs, somehow) and once-a-day repeatable cause at a certain point you often do need to grind at wild mons cause you've fought everyone already. Just make sure kids are told that if you avoid battles as much as possible, your team isn't gonna grow for poo poo and you'll never be able to progress.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:02
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All antagonist trainer battles should dynamically trigger only when your team is almost dead.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:04
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Honestly all battles should be double battles and Gamefreak should look at the competitive meta and go from there Doubles are way, way better than singles
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Jun 7, 2018 19:18
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And all battles should be Inverse Battles.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:27
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The battle system is fine. Doubles are still a gimmick
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Jun 7, 2018 19:41
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Countblanc posted:Being a dweeb is epic you dumb fucker. Bitch. youre next in line to be pushed over
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Jun 7, 2018 19:45
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Idea for Mega Regigigas! Mega evolution does nothing to his stats whatsoever! But it does change his ability from Slow Start to Pure Power Also a tiny imperial crown hovers over his head 
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Jun 7, 2018 19:46
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absolutely anything posted:youre next in line to be pushed over Push over the dweebs that want Pokemon to be a completely different game.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:46
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Once you start losing a battle you should be able to physically attack the other trainer.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:49
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I want to cross over to the mirror universe in which the Inverse Battle type chart is the regular type chart.
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Jun 7, 2018 19:55
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qnqnx posted:The battle system is fine. Nahhhh If Double Battles were the "default" there could be some possible reason to have non-damaging moves on your story mode friends, even if it's just Helping Hand or something like that That's probably my only gripe with the series is that even at equal level with opposing trainers there's no reason to carry any other moves apart from the strongest STAB move and a coverage move
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Jun 7, 2018 19:58
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make doubles default already drat it and bring back rotation battles also bring back Fat Pikachu, he can be the Alola one who ate too many pancakes
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Jun 7, 2018 20:12
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Mega Dunsparse but instead of getting bigger wings and a fairy type he's just larger and rounder.
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Jun 7, 2018 20:19
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McDragon posted:make doubles default already drat it McDragon posted:and bring back rotation battles McDragon posted:also bring back Fat Pikachu, he can be the Alola one who ate too many pancakes 
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Jun 7, 2018 20:26
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Make another Orre game imo.
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Jun 7, 2018 20:46
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https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1004514234149924865 Key word: Bridesmaid, not bride Machamp all the way, so he can carry the rings, throw petals, and guide the bride to the altar
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Jun 7, 2018 20:53
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Ludicolo, who would compliment my Best Man, also Ludicolo.
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Jun 7, 2018 20:58
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ROFL Octopus posted:NO Combine doubles and rotation battles into the pokemon-equivalent of the battle system from Jade Cocoon 2. 
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Jun 7, 2018 21:04
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Double-Rotation-Inverse Battles Make it happen
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Jun 7, 2018 21:24
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I just really liked that big old gear that span around in rotations
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Jun 7, 2018 21:26
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More like bring back triples! I had so much fun cheesing the Battle Maison with Protean Greninja, Garchomp, and a lvl 1 Aron.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:28
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The gimmick battles I’m most resentful towards is sky battles, for being the direct cause of so many pokemon looking so lovely and lifeless in battle.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:38
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ROFL Octopus posted:The gimmick battles I’m most resentful towards is sky battles, for being the direct cause of so many pokemon looking so lovely and lifeless in battle. To this day I don't get what they were thinking with Sky Battles. Doubles, Triples and Rotations heavily change the game and how it is played, adding variety to it. Inverse Battles force you out of your zone of comfort, change your 20-years and on mentality completely, they're a challenge to the experts. Sky Battles...limit the amount of Pokemon you can use. That's it. They're more limited battles. In a game that lets you choose what you use to this level, limiting that is bad and only invites boredom.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:40
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Everything being a doubles battle might need some tweaks to how other parts of the game are implemented. Take, say, the route where you fight Gladion for the first time, which is also where you fight doubles battlers for the first time. There's a bit that goes doubles battle --> Gladion --> double battle and if you aren't paying attention and healing your party after each of those encounters, you get wrecked (in my case, back in Moon after fighting Gladion I raced towards the Pokémon Centre without healing, ran into the double battle just outside it and it nearly wiped me). It's probably to reinforce the idea that Gladion is the "serious" rival who doesn't do niceties like give you time to prepare or heal your guys afterwards, but still, it got me thinking about doubles battles. Twice as many mons on the frontline is twice the wear and tear from general battling, even if it's just chip damage. In competitive doubles (and singles, of course) battling you get a free heal after every battle and... well, I sort of wonder if you made everything into a doubles battle, then free heals after every battle might be the thing needed to even that out. Like those sections where you have a partner and everything becomes a doubles battle, but they give you free heals. Obivously that would lead to some huge changes (the main role of the Pokémon Centre is lost, healing items only needed for in-battle stuff), but it has the additional effect of allowing you to make battles generally tougher in addition to being doubles battles, because of the free heal afterwards. Granted, once you have access to Isle Aplenny and effectively infinite Sitrus Berries healing is basically free anyway, but it would save on a certain amount of cognitive overhead. Thoughts?
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Jun 7, 2018 21:41
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Sky Battles always felt like the end result of the worst game of telephone ever, starting as "Hey, why can you use every pokemon while surfing"
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Jun 7, 2018 21:43
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Paul.Power posted:Obivously that would lead to some huge changes (the main role of the Pokémon Centre is lost, healing items only needed for in-battle stuff), but it has the additional effect of allowing you to make battles generally tougher in addition to being doubles battles, because of the free heal afterwards. Granted, once you have access to Isle Aplenny and effectively infinite Sitrus Berries healing is basically free anyway, but it would save on a certain amount of cognitive overhead. Thoughts? I agree with your judgement here but I also do not want that, because it reminds me of terrible games like MegaMan Battle Network 1 and Final Fantasy XIII, where instead of making stuff a proper challenge, it just made random battles even more tiring and annoying and added to a sense of lack of polish overall. You usually want random battles to go fast, since they happen so much, keep the challenges to the bosses and the like, at least that's my opinion.
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Funky Valentine posted:Ludicolo, who would compliment my Best Man, also Ludicolo. I assume you would also be playing Miror B's music from Pokemon Colosseum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHHFc-gIeI
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