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SlothfulCobra posted:So what would've happened if Al Andalus had voted the other way, leaving the vote split at an even 6/6? Hashim said that in the event of a tie, the option with the most supporters among the major powers (Morocco, Russia, and Hanover) wins. So B would have prevailed, since Hanover and Morocco supported it.
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Jumping on the gently caress Morocco bandwagon A
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Jun 7, 2018 21:16
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Voting A, but only because this is the only way to reward Greece for punching way above their weight for that entire war.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:36
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Yeah, a quick count puts A above 40, so I'm gonna close this vote and write up the next one up quick. Looks like we can get two votes in within a day.
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Technowolf posted:Voting A, but only because this is the only way to reward Greece for punching way above their weight for that entire war.
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The Congress of Cádiz Part 4: The Fate of the Levant It doesn’t take very long for the Majlis to pick a side in the Balkan Crisis, voting overwhelming in favour of partitioning the Serbian Republic.  As the main proponent of the partition, Russia takes a leading role this round, using its hard-won influence to coerce several other congress powers into backing its plan. Both Bavaria and Hungary are only too happy to pledge their support, however, hoping that a divided Balkans would make it easier for them to become great powers in their own right.  The main opposition to this plan, predictably, comes in the form of Morocco. Campaigning on the platform of peace in the Balkans, Morocco loudly criticises the Russians for their transparent attempt to destabilise the peninsula, and proclaim themselves the protectors of Serbia. And in a surprising twist, the Dual Monarchy of France-England backs the Berbers, despite the fact that the Russians had supported them in the previous round of voting. Hannover also announces its support of a large, powerful Serbia, hoping to draw Russian attention away from Germany.  And with that, the final vote tally is at six for option A (Russia, Al Andalus, Bavaria, Hungary, Armenia) and six for option B (Morocco, Hannover, France, Egypt). In the event of a tie, the stalemate is decided in favour of the side with the most great powers, so the Congress announces that an enlarged Kingdom of Serbia will dominate the Balkans, with its conquests intact.  The representatives of Hungary immediately begin protesting, citing the promises that the Moroccan Sultan made to them at the height of the Tirruni Wars, but it isn’t long before they’re drowned out in favour of moving to the next item on the agenda: the fate of the Levant. For the past 400 years, the Levant has been the cause of countless wars between Armenia and Egypt, with Syria and Palestine becoming the battleground of a dozen wars between 1444 and 1836. Now, it is time to finally settle this hotly-contested issue, and bring peace to the Eastern Mediterranean. The first option is also the simplest: that the Levant be divided in two, with Armenia gaining control over Syria, and Egypt over Palestine. This will simply be a restoration of the status quo, however, all but guaranteeing more war and conflict between the two powers in the future. The second and third options are more one-sided, with either the Armenians or the Egyptians gaining complete control over the Levant, respectively. Morocco hopes to strengthen Muslim Armenia, creating a bulwark against the Russian Empire, whilst the Russians hope to do the same by strengthening Crusader Egypt. The fourth and last option is more novel: that two new states be set up as buffers between Armenia and Egypt. A Muslim-dominated Emirate of Syria in the north, and a Christian-ruled Kingdom of Outremer in the south. This option is opposed by both the Armenians and Egyptians, for obvious reasons, but will do much to alleviate tensions in the region.  So the Majlis al-Shura convenes again to decide their stance in the matter: Option A - Restore the status quo. Effects: Armenia gains control over Syria, Egypt gains control over Palestine. We get a small relations hit with Armenia and Egypt. Option B - The Levant is Armenian! Effects: Armenia gains control over the entirety of the Levant. We get a relations boost with Armenia and Morocco. We get a relations hit with Egypt and Russia. Option C - The Levant is Egyptian! Effects: Egypt gains control over the entirety of the Levant. We get a relations boost with Egypt and Russia. We get a relations hit with Armenia and Morocco. Option D - Set up neutral buffer states. Effects: Two new states are set up, the Muslim-dominated Emirate of Syria in the north, and the Christian-ruled Kingdom of Outremer in the south. We get a relations boost with Syria and Outremer. We get a relations hit with Egypt and Armenia, and a smaller hit with Morocco and Russia. Option E - Abstain from the vote. Effects: We remain neutral in this matter, so it will be decided by the other powers. Our relations with other nations are unchanged. ——— Reminder that we (Al Andalus) will have 1 vote in this matter, alongside France, Bavaria, Hungary, Armenia, and Egypt. The great powers of Morocco, Russia and Hannover will have 2 votes apiece. So keep in mind that even if our chosen option doesn’t win overall, the relations boost/hits will still take effect, and the other powers will remember how we voted. Also, in the event of a stalemate, the tie is decided in favour of the side with more great powers.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:08
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lmao D
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Jun 7, 2018 22:10
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C gently caress Morocco
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Jun 7, 2018 22:12
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B! We must weaken the infidels in Egypt 
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Jun 7, 2018 22:13
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D A two-state solution!
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Jun 7, 2018 22:14
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Sorry Greece. D
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Jun 7, 2018 22:15
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D. We probably have close to 200 relations with Russia by now, a small hit won't hurt much given that we can recoup it later.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:15
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C
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Jun 7, 2018 22:16
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C Crusader Egypt was against Morocco, and helped us out by
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Jun 7, 2018 22:19
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C, Egypt helped us against Morocco, we should return the favor.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:19
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C. edit: gently caress Morocco.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:20
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This is kind of a tough one, to be honest. Restoring the status quo gains us nothing, so I wouldn't advise that. Strengthening Armenia also doesn't net us much, unless we wanted to slightly improve relations with Morocco or gain a friend on the wrong side of the Mediterranean. So we're left with either setting up some buffer states or handing the Levant to Egypt. Doing the latter is likely to pull its attention north, towards protecting and expanding its newly awarded territories when we'd much rather have its attention on the west and our mutual enemy Morocco. But creating buffer states in the Levant, when we already came out against that sort of thing in Occitania, looks bad (and we might have concerns over Morocco trying to do the same in Catalan). As much as I don't like voting on every single issue in a way designed to piss off Morocco exclusively, I have to vote C and hand the Levant to Egypt.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:22
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Patter Song posted:D. We're at +150 at the moment.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:23
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C Let's lock in that Russia love and help out a former buddy
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Jun 7, 2018 22:24
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D.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:25
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C
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Jun 7, 2018 22:35
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I C a way to make Egypt stronger, but honestly we're going to vote for every option that pisses off Morocco.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:36
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D this will not backfire in any way
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Jun 7, 2018 22:39
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C and D are both good choices but the fact that Egypt is also a natural enemy of Morocco means that Egypt could also be a good ally for us, as well as better relations with Russia, so C
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Jun 7, 2018 22:40
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C
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Jun 7, 2018 22:47
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C because يمارس الجنس مع المغرب Also, do not type gently caress Morocco into google.
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Jun 7, 2018 22:53
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E I don't care. 
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Jun 7, 2018 22:55
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C
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Jun 7, 2018 22:55
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We should continue to reward states that helped us fight the Moroccan menace. In this case Egypt. C
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Jun 7, 2018 23:01
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D is a very funny opportunity for Goon Peace in the Middle East.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:03
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C Egypt controlled the area far longer than anyone else. They deserve it.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:05
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A We cannot strengthen the infidels, but neither can we really afford to anger them either.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:10
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Why're people picking the option that only gets us in the good graces of some potential insignificant buffer states? Let's just suck up to Russia some more, and go for C.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:18
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why're people picking the option that only gets us in the good graces of some potential insignificant buffer states? Let's just suck up to Russia some more, and go for C. C Otherwise we might as well abstain.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:19
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I’m not interested in empowering the Christians in the Middle East, but I have to vote C. We need to screw over Morocco and buddy up with Russia to further our interests in Iberia.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:21
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France's out of nowhere opposition to Andalusian interests really foreshadows how that future alliance is going to go. D is probably the most sensible option for the people of the levant and the world order at large; self-rule and more little states for great powers to exert influence over. Also for big fans of two-state solutions. But interests in self-rule have no place here, the only order of the day is peace for now and imperial ambitions for later. C is the obvious gently caress Morocco option, and it's probably what would've happened if Egypt could've finally fought it out with the Vakhtani Caliphate without Morocco always getting in the way. It's also the only way for north Africa to escape from Moroccan hegemony (although I am interested in the fate of Libya). Then I guess B is for fans of the Sunni Caliph, although with how Russia's stepping into the area and has already seized Constantinople, they've really been on the downslope. I'm not sure if it's the only thing that'll save them from future imperialism or just speed them to their future demise. They're already having to deal with a lot of rebellious cultures. And A is fair. Fair is fair. Fair? Fair. Might as well vote E.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:23
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C We must contain Morocco with strong hostile neighbors. An enlarged Egypt will be able to draw and fend off a larger amount of Morocco's army when the time comes.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:24
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D is the option that will best facilitate easy pilgrimages for those on the Hajj or Umrah
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Jun 7, 2018 23:34
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C, for obvious gently caress Morocco reasons.
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Jun 7, 2018 23:40
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C The Berbers are not our friends and the Egyptians have been our friends.
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