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Seriously though, how are there not more spears in the 40k range? They're cool as hell and there's all sorts of neat modeling opportunities with them.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:I've been working on theory-crafting a 2000 point imperial guard list, that I plan on slowly purchasing, it's not meant to be competitive, but still be pretty good. It's infantry/artillery themed, because I absolutely adore that poo poo. It's like 25 points over 2000, but I'll figure that out. I starting thinking about it because I saw one of those ridiculous 3 baneblades lists from a tourney, and I wondered how many basilisks I could get for those 1500 points and if it wouldn't actually be a lot better. However, even with my great love of artillery I figured 14 basilisks might be a bit much - also, I wanted a more balanced force, while still having lotsa infantry and lotsa big guns firing forever in the back. Looks fairly decent. I am not a huge fan of basilisks, but that's because I find too much indirect fire less fun, not because they are bad. I know exactly where you can get the 25 points back. Vox casters are pretty bad. You can pretty easily just stick your non warlord officers up front near the squads.
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Jun 8, 2018 14:56
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Pendent posted:Seriously though, how are there not more spears in the 40k range? They're cool as hell and there's all sorts of neat modeling opportunities with them. They pretty much top the list for most breakable bullshit among miniatures?
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Jun 8, 2018 14:56
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Artum posted:They pretty much top the list for most breakable bullshit among miniatures? ...huh. That does actually make sense. drat.
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Jun 8, 2018 14:58
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Artum posted:They pretty much top the list for most breakable bullshit among miniatures? But they look awesome though and we should be allowed to make even more poor life decisions.
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Jun 8, 2018 14:58
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Shouldn't you give them all storm-shields and swords though?
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Jun 8, 2018 14:59
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Schadenboner posted:Shouldn't you give them all storm-shields and swords though? gently caress that. The spears are way cooler. They've also been the quintessential Custodes weapon forever. We don't need any of that fancy shield poo poo here.
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Jun 8, 2018 15:00
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See if you played the game you'd know that wasnt the case.
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Jun 8, 2018 15:01
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Artum posted:They pretty much top the list for most breakable bullshit among miniatures? When has this ever stopped GW before?
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Jun 8, 2018 15:03
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Corrode posted:When has this ever stopped GW before? Fair, I have been eyeing the sylvaneth range.
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Jun 8, 2018 15:04
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Artum posted:See if you played the game you'd know that wasnt the case. It seems risky to make something that expensive rely on a 5++ so as to get S6 rather than stay with S5 and get a 3++? 
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Jun 8, 2018 15:08
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They get a 4++ as long as they're in a Custodes detachment.
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Jun 8, 2018 15:10
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Anamal managed to slay Neurolimal but we seem to have had a resurgence of Schadenboner offering completely uninformed opinions on things, so have we really won?
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Shadin posted:I will never understand the drive to give even a moment's effort to posting in threads about something you don't like. Especially something as inane as a toy company. Because hating 40K has become their identity, and people seek out other people they identify with. There's a thread about Star Citizen that I still follow even though the "game" is an utter poo poo show and I got a refund years ago. It's hard to fully divest yourself of something when it used to be a large part of your life. That's why fans stick with their lovely teams, Star Wars is still immensely popular regardless of the quality of the movies, and why people who haven't played a game of 40K in years will continue to bitch about things on the Internet.
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Corrode posted:Anamal managed to slay Neurolimal but we seem to have had a resurgence of Schadenboner offering completely uninformed opinions on things, so have we really won? Yes, but we must treasure the small victories while waiting for the Final One.
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Pendent posted:They get a 4++ as long as they're in a Custodes detachment. Oh, you're right. Why make the shields an option then, pre-FAQ it was possible to have an impure soup but who wouldn't just take at least patrol detachment at that point? Weird design decision.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Because hating 40K has become their identity, and people seek out other people they identify with. There's a thread about Star Citizen that I still follow even though the "game" is an utter poo poo show and I got a refund years ago. It's hard to fully divest yourself of something when it used to be a large part of your life. That's why fans stick with their lovely teams, Star Wars is still immensely popular regardless of the quality of the movies, and why people who haven't played a game of 40K in years will continue to bitch about things on the Internet. I get that but I’m willing to bet you aren’t actively shitposting all day in that Star Citizen thread about how terrible Star Citizen is and trying to quell others’ good time or enthusiasm over a dumb game.
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Played another game against Tau with my Necron force yesterday. Positioning is important, fam. I had a unit of 3 destroyers too far away from the 2 Riptides and Superheavy to do anything of worth; to their credit, 2 came back with Reanimate. Quantum Shielding still owns, but mortal wounds from those goddamn Tau missiles necessitate a Cloaktek. Warscythe Lychguard, even if escorted by a Cryptek, need more mans than 5, or just ought to be swapped with sword and board. Necron players: Do not count on Reanimation Protocols if your opponent has more than 2 brain cells to rub together. My other mistake was counting on my Catacomb Command Barge to deal poo poo in combat--if you're leaning in that hard, best to take a Voidscythe and the Honorable Combatant warlord trait to actually get plenty of swings. Game ended at bottom of 3 with both Riptides hurting and the last Ghostkeel bleeding everywhere. I'm going in hard with Wraiths next time--probably 2 units of 6.
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Jun 8, 2018 15:21
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Gonna spend all weekend building and painting knights and Im loving happy. Also the Renegades box is large enough to hide a body in
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Jun 8, 2018 15:21
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Serotonin posted:Gonna spend all weekend building and painting knights and Im loving happy. I had to get mine into my KR backpack since I was on the bike when I picked it up, in the end Mitch had to push it down while I zipped the bag around it. It's loving huge.
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Wishing I'd bought the codex yesterday too cos now I'm desperate to try and build some 1500 point Knight only lists. Thinking 2 Warglaives, 2 Helverins, Crusader and Palladin. I know it's bugger all CPs but its fun for casual games.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yup. Some folks are probably already getting them. I expect mine to arrive next week via the War Store. Incidentally Neal is the absolute best and if you have any problems just call the store directly. It was pretty cool calling them and having the guy who owns everything casually pick up the phone. Can confirm that Neal and the Warstore are good people. I've been using them for like 15 years, and I met the lot of them at Historicon a few times. Still my preferred Hams dealer.
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Schadenboner posted:Oh, you're right. Why make the shields an option then, pre-FAQ it was possible to have an impure soup but who wouldn't just take at least patrol detachment at that point? Because it can still make sense to put one or two 3++ saves into a spear unit to give you a higher chance of tanking plasma or melta or lascannon fire.
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Alright, here's the results. Surprise! Space Wolves are the worst in both 30k and 40k. This is what happens when you fully embrace riding wolves instead of being a viking. Corrode posted:I picked up this WD, those posters are loving huge. I have a stock of stuff like this, the anniversary Rogue Trader one and the Forgebane and Renegade art cards that's getting stored away for my eventual nerd cave. Same here. I don't have the space at the moment, but once I do this bad boy is getting framed. Schadenboner posted:Oh, you're right. Why make the shields an option then, pre-FAQ it was possible to have an impure soup but who wouldn't just take at least patrol detachment at that point? I run my 3 man custodes units with 1 SS/Sword and 2 spears. 4++ is great all around, but just in case you need to pass one, having the 3++ is a nice option.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Alright, here's the results. Surprise! Space Wolves are the worst in both 30k and 40k. This is what happens when you fully embrace riding wolves instead of being a viking. The outcome was never really in doubt
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Schadenboner posted:The Star Wars experience indicates they will not be driven-off. ... or a white guy driving his golf cart into the barrel of a giant lasercannon, to ... do something. THAT MOVIE WAS SO BAD.  Edit: I guess it's "Why can't these guys just hate these characters and horrible plots equally regardless of gender, culture, or sexual orientation?" Sorry for the derail. That movie makes my temper flare... How To Solve Any Problem in Disney's Star Wars: Crash a loving ship into it! Edit: Actual content: Neal from the Warstore is a good guy, and I have had nothing but good experience with them. That being said, i think their GW stuff is supply chain managed and might take a bit longer to get to you. (i.e. you order it, and then they order it.) dexefiend fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jun 8, 2018 |
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My castellan and book are waiting for me at my game shop. I did a couple test games with it proxied, some scouts and BA characters, and a guard detachment with 6 helhounds and it's a great compliment compared to 3 cusode bikers. Also was down in Omaha for bugeater last weekend. Wound up 8th, losing like a scrub to a not great bobby gunline (is still no joke), and Drew a against eldar/deldar in which he went first on angles so I'll take it. Also ended playing Matt Root and soundly put him down to 3-3 in a CHESSEX CHALLENGE. The list 3 custodes bikes 2 hammer Bros Mephi 15 scouts Company commander Pskyer 30 infantry 5 hellhounds 2 manticores The manticores were mehacores, and the custodes are good but I really need some reach against garbage like eldar. A super knight with a 3++ and shooting at full BS until 6 wounds left is probably the best way to go. If you want to pick at him and not the 6 hellhounds, go nuts. Still have the mega CP farm so spending 4 a turn isn't the end of the world. Naramyth fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 8, 2018 |
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Artum posted:They pretty much top the list for most breakable bullshit among miniatures? They can be a modeling headache aside from breakage concerns. I'm working on Ogrun Warspears right now for a Hordes army. Two boxes of five guys (plastic). They're each modeled with 4 spears. 40 spears total. They're all hilariously and completely bent. Going at them with a hair dryer helps but it isn't a complete fix. I've settled on straightening them somewhat and then painting them to appear as poorly crafted. Lots of people end up just cutting them off and replacing them with a brass shaft. In short, even if GW started modeling more spears odds are you'd end up converting them to different looking spears.
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Naramyth posted:My castellan and book are waiting for me at my game shop. I did a couple test games with it proxied, some scouts and BA characters, and a guard detachment with 6 helhounds and it's a great compliment compared to 3 cusode bikers. You don't get the Hawkshroud thing unless he's in a full SH detachment I think, I was keen on that too until I read that (unless you're planning on putting a couple of Armigers in?) I really want to run 6 Hellhounds for our next shop tournament because I think it would blow the minds of our local guys, but getting the loving things together in time probably isn't gonna happen
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Can confirm that Neal from TheWarStore is a dope dude. They're my go-to source for most WW2 stuff (they carry Perry stuff stateside).
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Corrode posted:You don't get the Hawkshroud thing unless he's in a full SH detachment I think, I was keen on that too until I read that (unless you're planning on putting a couple of Armigers in?) Whelp. I don't think I have 340 to make that happen. I'll have to be an ad mech knight and use their strat.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Also, they're not gonna be painted with a nazi-theme. Think about breaking up the Bassilisk party. They're really good, but so are Russes. And if you ever play against Nids or Orks, Wyverns can't be beat. I'm gonna echo the sentiment around Armored Sentinels. Scouts Sentinels are way better. The scout move makes screening ridiculously easy. Consider arming them with heavy flamers for maximum fun, as it's easy for them to get within range. Cadian Russes are really good. They get a cool order which allows them to re-roll the number of shots they take, and if they're stationary they re-roll 1s. A Tank Commander and a couple of buddies are very useful. I'd go regular Battle Cannons on them, but the Plasma Exterminator is also a good choice for the Commander. Re: Bullgyns: slabshields are better than brute shields. That 2+ save is magical. If you're worried about them absorbing lascannon shots, don't be. That just means the lascannons aren't shooting your tanks! I think guardsmen with lascannons is a waste of points, but I can see myself getting proven wrong. I usually go plasmas or flamers on mine. I also wouldn't bother with the pistol on the priest, but w/e. I can never get assassins to actually do anything for me, but maybe you can.
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Paging the Badcast Bigbois. https://www.facebook.com/425388174332189/posts/778054512398885/ Add Fallout Hobbies to the lovely hams list.
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Shadin posted:I get that but I’m willing to bet you aren’t actively shitposting all day in that Star Citizen thread about how terrible Star Citizen is and trying to quell others’ good time or enthusiasm over a dumb game. I could see why that would look like the case, but I'm around 300 posts behind the thread and mostly watch it to see what stupid poo poo the community is doing. I haven't really seen any positive opinions about SC recently within SA; everyone here seems to think it's a scam propped up by shills and case studies in the sunk cost fallacy. Most of the thread is about mocking terrible posts on other communities or horrible things people are doing, like the YouTuber who got death and rape threats because he was critical of the game. As lovely as some 40K players are I don't think any of them have threatened to rape someone's daughter because he criticized Games Workshop.
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SteelMentor posted:Paging the Badcast Bigbois. Whatta fuckin' CHUD baby.
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SteelMentor posted:Paging the Badcast Bigbois. Just so I'm clear: Variance Hammer is not-poo poo right?
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Schadenboner posted:Just so I'm clear: Variance Hammer is not-poo poo right? Variance Hammer is excellent. I know the author, he's good people.
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SteelMentor posted:Paging the Badcast Bigbois. It seems like the guy who runs Fallout, Ron Gamble, realized his Very Stupid Choices would be bad for business and backpedalled. He invoked the "but I got kids" clause, called criticism harassment, and then realized that he could end up losing business so he apologized and deleted all of his bad posts. Maybe he learned something. We're recording the badcast today, and Campbell and I are gonna get into this poo poo.
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The Sex Cannon posted:
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The Sex Cannon posted:Think about breaking up the Bassilisk party. They're really good, but so are Russes. And if you ever play against Nids or Orks, Wyverns can't be beat. I'm gonna echo the sentiment around Armored Sentinels. Scouts Sentinels are way better. The scout move makes screening ridiculously easy. Consider arming them with heavy flamers for maximum fun, as it's easy for them to get within range. I like Tallarn Armored Sentinels since they can move around and don't suffer the penalty to hit. Outflanking with Scout Sentinels with Heavy Flamers is cool, but I like using the Tallarn stratagem to do it with a Hellhound.
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