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Keromaru5 posted:Speaking of which, is Red Skull still a clone of Steve Rogers? I've never followed Captain America that closely, so all I know is what's in the '84 OHOTMU. That version of the Red Skull died at the beginning of Brubaker's run on Captain America. He transferred his consciousness to his killer's body using the remainder of a busted up cosmic cube's power. Then things got complicated, but I'm pretty sure the Red Skull running around right now is a clone of the original.
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its like a bttf chart
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Lurdiak posted:That version of the Red Skull died at the beginning of Brubaker's run on Captain America. He transferred his consciousness to his killer's body using the remainder of a busted up cosmic cube's power. Then things got complicated, but I'm pretty sure the Red Skull running around right now is a clone of the original. Is that Skull still alive? Didn't they cut Chuck's brains out of him or something?
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Rhyno posted:Is that Skull still alive? Didn't they cut Chuck's brains out of him or something? Yeah but then I think Sin and Crossbones killed him when NazSteve assumed control of Hydra e: maybe they just locked him away? I can't remember
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Jun 10, 2018 04:01
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Poasting on the Marvel page
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Rhyno posted:Is that Skull still alive? Didn't they cut Chuck's brains out of him or something? IIRC, they removed Chuck's brain from him, then Sin and Crossbones sprung him from jail, but Evil Steve promptly threw him out a window to his visible, on-panel death.
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Arnim Zola's probably just gonna get another one out of his freezer.
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Jun 10, 2018 04:13
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No one likes the Guardians. Infinity Countdown #4
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Lurdiak posted:That version of the Red Skull died at the beginning of Brubaker's run on Captain America. He transferred his consciousness to his killer's body using the remainder of a busted up cosmic cube's power. Then things got complicated, but I'm pretty sure the Red Skull running around right now is a clone of the original.
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Jun 10, 2018 04:31
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Keromaru5 posted:Comics, everybody! It's weird because that run starts with a banger: The Red Skull is setting up a power play, he has his hand on a Cosmic Cube and all hell will break loose; then a sniper takes him out and the issue ends with his body laying on the floor. From there on it turns to the real antagonists, the Winter Soldier and the organization backing him. It's a cool twist and the story runs with it but then, as comics are wont to do, they just have to bring the Red Skull back and it's the same thing all over again. That run also has some very gross stuff with Crossbones and Sin(?)
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Jun 10, 2018 05:10
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Samuringa posted:I'll never get tired of villains putting Hitler in a positive light, it's such a low hanging fruit but always so sweet Well in Skull's case the two actually were war buddies.
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Jun 10, 2018 06:07
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That friendship didn't end well.
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Jun 10, 2018 06:10
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Keromaru5 posted:Comics, everybody! Related, from Tumblr 
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Jun 10, 2018 06:31
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Friendship with Hitler ended. Now Himmler is my friend!
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Poasting on the Marvel page
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Jun 10, 2018 07:35
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Belatedly, but:Lobok posted:If anyone would give it the ol' college try it'd be Claremont. Even Claremont balked at giving Boston Native Carol Danvers a phonetic accent.
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Endless Mike posted:No one likes the Guardians. Groot talks now?
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Alhazred posted:Groot talks now? Didn't Groot talk originally?
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Yeah Groot started as an arrogant douchebag tree man, I think he was burned to death and then upon regrowth or whatever ended up with the I AM GROOT thing. I want to say it was in an Annihilation spin-off, maybe the Ultron one. Regardless I have no idea what's up with him currently but I am fine with him speaking if just to hear the musings of Groot, high arbor master of the Floras people.
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Jun 10, 2018 10:16
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The "I am groot" thing was kinda wearing thin honestly.
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darthbob88 posted:Related, from Tumblr
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Jun 10, 2018 11:38
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Zereth posted:I remember when the Ultimate universe was an attempt to start over and make things less complicated for people getting into comics. Sooner or later every ongoing story will require flow charts.
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Jun 10, 2018 12:07
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Zereth posted:I remember when the Ultimate universe was an attempt to start over and make things less complicated for people getting into comics. https://xkcd.com/927/
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Zereth posted:I remember when the Ultimate universe was an attempt to start over and make things less complicated for people getting into comics. Haha that's the exact reason they killed it off and rolled the only character anyone gave a poo poo about into 616. Between the Stan and Jack heyday and Ultimate Marvel's launch was about 30 years of continuity with every mainstream marvel book and character, and Ultimate got at least that hosed up in half the time with probably a third of the comics published.
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purple death ray posted:Haha that's the exact reason they killed it off and rolled the only character anyone gave a poo poo about into 616. Between the Stan and Jack heyday and Ultimate Marvel's launch was about 30 years of continuity with every mainstream marvel book and character, and Ultimate got at least that hosed up in half the time with probably a third of the comics published. But, somehow, Injustice has managed to not gently caress it up for... 5 years now!
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Jun 10, 2018 16:39
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Toshimo posted:But, somehow, Injustice has managed to not gently caress it up for... 5 years now! Injustice is honestly great for what it is.
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Jun 10, 2018 16:44
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Somberbrero posted:Injustice is honestly great for what it is. An ongoing DC storyline where some characters are not heroes but villains and some villains are surprisingly selfish heroes?
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Jun 10, 2018 17:34
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Zereth posted:I remember when the Ultimate universe was an attempt to start over and make things less complicated for people getting into comics. I've heard it said that Ultimate Comics was really an attempt to float prospective movie plots and see how they'd work out, and judging from the MCU I'm inclined to agree.
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Jun 10, 2018 17:49
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wiegieman posted:I've heard it said that Ultimate Comics was really an attempt to float prospective movie plots and see how they'd work out, and judging from the MCU I'm inclined to agree. They literally got permission to use Sam Jackson's likeness for Nick Fury six years before Iron Man came out.
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Skwirl posted:They literally got permission to use Sam Jackson's likeness for Nick Fury six years before Iron Man came out. They didn't get permission, Hitch used him as a photo reference. Ultimate Nick Fury was not visually based on SLJ.
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Jun 10, 2018 18:02
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Rhyno posted:They didn't get permission, Hitch used him as a photo reference. Ultimate Nick Fury was not visually based on SLJ. I thought at some point they got likeness rights before the movies. I know in his first appearances he doesn't look like Jackson, but after Ultimates he was drawn that way in everything.
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I'm pretty sure they talked to him and he thought it was cool. I don't know if it was formal.
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Skwirl posted:I thought at some point they got likeness rights before the movies. I know in his first appearances he doesn't look like Jackson, but after Ultimates he was drawn that way in everything. They did, though I'm not sure how much earlier. It included a stipulation that if they made movies Jackson would get right of first refusal for the part of Fury on-screen.
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https://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Nick-Fury-Ended-Up-Looking-Like-Being-Played-By-Samuel-L-Jackson-71136.html
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Toshimo posted:https://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Nick-Fury-Ended-Up-Looking-Like-Being-Played-By-Samuel-L-Jackson-71136.html I dunno man. What if he doesn't like making movies and that was meant sarcastically.
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His wife also bought him some of the original art, I believe.
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Like I said, it was nothing formal, Hitch used celebs as reference for most of Ultimates. SLJ Fury was done and in print before Sam even knew about it. I'm pretty sure that upon exiting each MCU film that Fury appears in I have overheard a conversation stating that U Fury was originally based on SLJ. Tom Raney was kind of pissed about the design change at one point as well.
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Zereth posted:I remember when the Ultimate universe was an attempt to start over and make things less complicated for people getting into comics. Well good grief, imagine the size of that dropdown if you just type "Spider-Man". It'd be as tall as a building. VanSandman posted:An ongoing DC storyline where some characters are not heroes but villains and some villains are surprisingly selfish heroes? And which, correct me if I'm wrong, you can read in its entirety just by following a single thread of comics from the beginning to the end in order? Or do you need to actually play the games at some point?
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The games are irrelevant other than as providing a basic frame for the story concept. It's entirely unnecessary.
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