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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

LAN parties? What is this, 1995?

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
romantic comedies can't really be responsible for the young generation doing these exact same things, since romantic comedies haven't been a valid genre in over a decade

this kind of messaging comes most directly from advertising, for products. as if anyone has the attention span for entire movies any more.

Bobcats
Aug 5, 2004
Oh
Is there life after failing to find a rich man? A very special article.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
RING A DING A LING A LING A LONG! Hell yeah, my man. :cool:

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've been one of the people arguing that romantic comedies have hosed up people's ideas of relationships waaaay more than porn or titty video games.

Christ, don't even ask what Revenge of the Nerds did to a generation.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

JediTalentAgent posted:

Christ, don't even ask what Revenge of the Nerds did to a generation.

you can rape if you're smart, and if you're smart you're owed a hot woman.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Devils Affricate posted:

Never watched the show, I thought thats what it was lol

Same

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

GORDON posted:

And now.women can gently caress all they want, but still whine and cry and write articles about how sad she is that she can't find a guy who wants to stop getting all the milk.for.free, and buy the cow.

Boo hoo?
Yeah because men only want the sex, they don't actually want relationships, they've only pretended to do so, for the sex.

Me man me not have emotional attachments.

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Only episode I remember was one where the redhead was getting down with some dude and he started eating her rear end and she made a little surprised face and I was like "jeez, this is kinda hot" but then it turned out she wasn't into it and my pud deflated instantly. 1/10

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

IT isnt real work posted:

here's a slate article with a satisfying takedown

https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/from-fameball-to-change-activist-a-closer-look-at-julia-allisons-new-persona.html


wow, suprise suprise, she is still loving horrible. hey lady, why don't you try being a person that isn't a loving caricature

a few pages back but :lol: maybe if you object to being called a fame whore don't be a fame whore, literally all the things in that bio are "this """""job""""" lets me party with people who are both richer and more interesting than me"

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

IT isnt real work posted:

here's a slate article with a satisfying takedown

https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/from-fameball-to-change-activist-a-closer-look-at-julia-allisons-new-persona.html


wow, suprise suprise, she is still loving horrible. hey lady, why don't you try being a person that isn't a loving caricature

quote:

before the Kardashians turned being famous for “nothing” into high art

They weren't famous for "nothing". They were famous for Kim's booty bangin' sex tape with Snoop Dogg's cousin. Is the prude media supposed to pretend that doesn't exist or something?

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Was Sex and the City that last big thing (considering the time of the first film, too) of its type where we were still in a relatively easy to follow sex-positive culture in the mainstream from the early mid-90s-mid 2000s? I've sort of felt that 2008 was when the attitudes started to shift, and sure enough that was the year the movie came out, too. The midpoint for shows like Two and a Half Men and Entourage seem to similarly around that 2008 window.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

JediTalentAgent posted:

Was Sex and the City that last big thing (considering the time of the first film, too) of its type where we were still in a relatively easy to follow sex-positive culture in the mainstream from the early mid-90s-mid 2000s? I've sort of felt that 2008 was when the attitudes started to shift, and sure enough that was the year the movie came out, too. The midpoint for shows like Two and a Half Men and Entourage seem to similarly around that 2008 window.

If you mean "mindless drivel for literal social retards" then no, it was just one of the top contenders for the crown.

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007

PathAsc posted:

If you mean "mindless drivel for literal social retards" then no, it was just one of the top contenders for the crown.

Only thing funny about the first one is that it opened the same weekend as Ted. So you had couples literally splitting into groups at the theaters where a bunch of women went to see a movie with lots of boobs and loving and all the dudes went to see a movie about a teddy bear.

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
It's a really amazing juxtaposition to read this womans self-account and to read male incels propaganda about women.

Fun fact: this woman is everything male incels perceive all women to be.

Even up to the point where she somehow unselfconsciously admits to settling down with a safe "reasonable man" now that she's older and past the party years of no self accountability.

Incels were right in this case?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:

They weren't famous for "nothing". They were famous for Kim's booty bangin' sex tape with Snoop Dogg's cousin. Is the prude media supposed to pretend that doesn't exist or something?

That and their dead Dad having been one of The Juice’s lawyers when the LAPD set him up.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

McGiggins posted:

It's a really amazing juxtaposition to read this womans self-account and to read male incels propaganda about women.

Fun fact: this woman is everything male incels perceive all women to be.

Even up to the point where she somehow unselfconsciously admits to settling down with a safe "reasonable man" now that she's older and past the party years of no self accountability.

Incels were right in this case?

they aren't smart enough to come up p with the stereotype on their own, it has to have some basis in reality. same with evangelicals and their view of women, this example just proves them right in their bigotry.

remember, if someone embraces stereotypes then it only takes one confirmation to prove they are always right

naem
May 29, 2011

Rich people's adult kids often have fake lives prepared for them with pretend mini-careers provided by networking with other rich people at businesses they own, because "I'm waiting around for dad to die so I get the money" is kind of embarrassing to admit. They get little talking points like charity work their parents can mention at parties.

Then you get naive upper-middle class people who decide to "move to the city and make it big" and the biggest thing they can imagine is the same kind of fake-pretend-mini-career-taking-points thing that they parrot at anyone who will listen.

"My $750 a week writing job means I have to budget for groceries unlike my lawyer dad I'm such a free spirit haha, gosh maybe I should gently caress some millionaires or something"

Rich people quietly support this because it helps support their own lies and it provides a safe, clean pool of young rear end for their kids to hook up with and socialize among in a more or less healthy manner during their formative years

None of this is bad really it's just embarrassing, plus there are like children starving somewhere

naem
May 29, 2011

If you're like, middle-middle-class and your job is like, your actual job, and it is the money you have to spend in life, it can be mildly annoying to have a social pool of such twats flapping about in the background of your acquaintance for a couple years I guess but really you should be busy clawing and scratching your way upwards into the upper-middle-class (in income if not socially) so that you can ever retire or pay a kids way through college or whatever

naem
May 29, 2011

I will say that rich people, like actually rich rich people, can be hilariously loving fun to hang out with, it's not like "having some money" makes you inherently a bad person

Barudak
May 7, 2007

naem posted:

If you're like, middle-middle-class and your job is like, your actual job, and it is the money you have to spend in life, it can be mildly annoying to have a social pool of such twats flapping about in the background of your acquaintance for a couple years I guess but really you should be busy clawing and scratching your way upwards into the upper-middle-class (in income if not socially) so that you can ever retire or pay a kids way through college or whatever

Your goal is to trick one of this idiots into marrying you.

My first ever direct report, a fresh from college 21 year old, showed up to the first day on the job in a customized BMW the BMW logo was pink instead of blue ontop of its many other features, and she promptly told me that she would need to take fridays off for the next few weeks as the Polo world cup was on and she had a horse participating in it that she wanted to cheer on. She left after about two weeks to a job in New York as some regional TV manager or something for Fox pulling north of 200k because her uncle was on the board. Lock that kind of a woman down and even in the divorce you'll never work again.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

naem posted:

I will say that rich people, like actually rich rich people, can be hilariously loving fun to hang out with, it's not like "having some money" makes you inherently a bad person

Rich people do tend to be a lot of fun. Some of them really suck, but there’s a pretty strong binomial distribution there.

naem
May 29, 2011

Barudak posted:

Your goal is to trick one of this idiots into marrying you.

My first ever direct report, a fresh from college 21 year old, showed up to the first day on the job in a customized BMW the BMW logo was pink instead of blue ontop of its many other features, and she promptly told me that she would need to take fridays off for the next few weeks as the Polo world cup was on and she had a horse participating in it that she wanted to cheer on. She left after about two weeks to a job in New York as some regional TV manager or something for Fox pulling north of 200k because her uncle was on the board. Lock that kind of a woman down and even in the divorce you'll never work again.

You want to marry an actual rich girl who you meet while she's briefly slumming it among the upper-middle-class

You don't want to marry an upper-middle-class girl who is pretending to be a rich girl slumming it. Especially if she doesn't realize that is what she is doing and thinks her "saving the whales columnist" job is real.

At least not unless you yourself have finally earned an upper-middle-class income- in which case why not marry a middle-middle-class girl who will appreciate your mild success and have a much better personality

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
People get the impression that I’m rich, or that I’m from a rich family, I’m really not. Definitely know a lot of families with a lot more money than ours. You see a lot of interesting dynamics, but honestly people dating and marrying across class tends to present unique and fascinating problems to witness from a safe distance. My one rule of thumb is, if you are a woman, never, never marry down.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
And I am not saying that because it affects me personally, I am saying that it never goes well. Absolutely never, not a single time have I seen that go right.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
For that reason, among others, uptown girl is my least favorite song of all time and I will kill anyone who plays it

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

by sebmojo
My one rule of thumb is, if you are a human, eat the rich.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

naem posted:

You want to marry an actual rich girl who you meet while she's briefly slumming it among the upper-middle-class

You don't want to marry an upper-middle-class girl who is pretending to be a rich girl slumming it. Especially if she doesn't realize that is what she is doing and thinks her "saving the whales columnist" job is real.

At least not unless you yourself have finally earned an upper-middle-class income- in which case why not marry a middle-middle-class girl who will appreciate your mild success and have a much better personality

Man Sex and the City messed you up.

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Hanging with rich people is fine but a guillotine is a lot more efficient

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

naem posted:

Rich people's adult kids often have fake lives prepared for them with pretend mini-careers provided by networking with other rich people at businesses they own, because "I'm waiting around for dad to die so I get the money" is kind of embarrassing to admit. They get little talking points like charity work their parents can mention at parties.

Then you get naive upper-middle class people who decide to "move to the city and make it big" and the biggest thing they can imagine is the same kind of fake-pretend-mini-career-taking-points thing that they parrot at anyone who will listen.

"My $750 a week writing job means I have to budget for groceries unlike my lawyer dad I'm such a free spirit haha, gosh maybe I should gently caress some millionaires or something"

Rich people quietly support this because it helps support their own lies and it provides a safe, clean pool of young rear end for their kids to hook up with and socialize among in a more or less healthy manner during their formative years

None of this is bad really it's just embarrassing, plus there are like children starving somewhere

It is bad, and solution is to liquidate the bourgeois and seize the means of production.

Cyberpope v2
Oct 26, 2002

by Lowtax

Pick posted:

People get the impression that I’m rich, or that I’m from a rich family, I’m really not. Definitely know a lot of families with a lot more money than ours. You see a lot of interesting dynamics, but honestly people dating and marrying across class tends to present unique and fascinating problems to witness from a safe distance. My one rule of thumb is, if you are a woman, never, never marry down.
"I'm not rich I just happen to parrot their ideas exactly."

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

GORDON posted:

This may be true.

But I'd add that back in the day, there was social pressure for women to not be seen as "easy.". This.led to the "waiting for marriage" mindset, or at least the illusion of it, as people weren't really free to do whatever they wanted, sexually.

For men, the "can't get the milk unless you buy the cow" mindset led to pressure to get married and settle down. I'm not expressing an opinion about that, just making an observation about how poo poo was.

Then society changed, and shaming the slut shamers became the thing.

And now.women can gently caress all they want, but still whine and cry and write articles about how sad she is that she can't find a guy who wants to stop getting all the milk.for.free, and buy the cow.

Boo hoo?

Complex systems are fun to.observe.

Are you one of the legion of "cheated on wife, got divorced" goons? Because this is gotta be middleageddivorced.txt

naem
May 29, 2011

Gaunab posted:

Man Sex and the City messed you up.

Just some accurate observations here from my lofty perch among the upper-lower-mega-middle-quadruple-dumbo-class

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
I've known my fair share of wealthy people and there's a lot of utility in befriending them. I once had a job where a friend's millionaire dad paid me 200 hundred dollars a day to sit in he utility room of a slum he owned smoking weed and occasionally fielding complaints from tenants. Calling a plumber and so on. Most of the wealthy people I've known there was always this undercurrent of "I'm friends with a poor person like you cause of the drugs you can get and the fun you bring" tbh. One or two became geniune friends and helped me out of some tight spots financially. They always seemed to lack perspective. It made them sort of childish at times.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Barudak posted:

Your goal is to trick one of this idiots into marrying you.

My first ever direct report, a fresh from college 21 year old, showed up to the first day on the job in a customized BMW the BMW logo was pink instead of blue ontop of its many other features, and she promptly told me that she would need to take fridays off for the next few weeks as the Polo world cup was on and she had a horse participating in it that she wanted to cheer on. She left after about two weeks to a job in New York as some regional TV manager or something for Fox pulling north of 200k because her uncle was on the board. Lock that kind of a woman down and even in the divorce you'll never work again.

Only if you manage to avoid a prenup.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Yeah, yeah, you hear it all the time… But if you had a chance to access it, you take it. That’s what the system rides on

Dean of Swing
Feb 22, 2012

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Only if you manage to avoid a prenup.

This goes without saying.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Jim Barris posted:

I've known my fair share of wealthy people and there's a lot of utility in befriending them. I once had a job where a friend's millionaire dad paid me 200 hundred dollars a day to sit in he utility room of a slum he owned smoking weed and occasionally fielding complaints from tenants. Calling a plumber and so on. Most of the wealthy people I've known there was always this undercurrent of "I'm friends with a poor person like you cause of the drugs you can get and the fun you bring" tbh. One or two became geniune friends and helped me out of some tight spots financially. They always seemed to lack perspective. It made them sort of childish at times.

They are like Olympian gods, ready to give favors to their lessers, and savage others. It's always better to be friendly.

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bloom posted:

My one rule of thumb is, if you are a human, eat the rich.

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CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Hey guys have you ever considered the benefits of being a literal Minion

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