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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Best way to do this is the Ways into the Mansus, but there are a few books out there to get you started. Check Morland's and Oriflammes. I can't find my way into the area. I am still in the waking.
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The way there the first time is to dream about Passion, then put a Knock or Lantern (maybe some others, but those definitely work) lore in the slot.
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Jun 11, 2018 21:39
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Won my first not-living-a-boring-life game. I'm going to give it a rest and then try to actually make sense of things instead of putting cards wherever they fit. Feel fry to critizise my end game setup: I could probably have won 3-4 hours earlier, but didn't notice that [spoiler]"talking" to prisoners increased my Marks, so I was just piling up Lore just for the sake of accumulating it.
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Jun 11, 2018 21:45
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And now I need other sorts of lore. Is it only books or can places get them to me?
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Jun 11, 2018 23:04
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Josef bugman posted:And now I need other sorts of lore. Is it only books or can places get them to me? Mostly books, but the rarer books are on expeditions.
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Jun 11, 2018 23:58
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So I just got my first win. As I used 50 forge in the power rite, I got a "standard" rather than a minor victory the rest of the thread is reporting. I'm wondering if that sun achievement isn't for calling the guy you need the 14 lantern lore to learn about? I sure as hell didn't summon that guy at the end of the game, I was about to win! End game really needs some work, there's far too much dumpster diving for the numbers/tech you need to get the last mark. I got lucky and pulled the book with the Intercalate Rite, but I can imagine getting frustrated diving into the peacock door -> fixing the mirror -> diving into the door -> trying to keep King Crucible summoned -> etc. Also where the hell is Fucine? I kept picking up Fucine books but never found the language. Oh well.
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Jun 12, 2018 00:48
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I think all the ascension victories are “standard” victories. The other category is minor victories, such as being an accountant at G&G for the rest of your life. There seems to be a rich and poor version of that one, judging from the achievements.
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Jun 12, 2018 00:52
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which cults are good vs bad? lantern seems like garbage but it also seems like summons just do everything for you anyways
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Jun 12, 2018 01:06
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Verviticus posted:which cults are good vs bad? lantern seems like garbage but it also seems like summons just do everything for you anyways Lantern, Forge and Grail are equally easy mode because they're aligned with one of the victory conditions and Restlessness has those three aspects, so you can turn reliably everyone into disciples super early Two disciples of whatever will guaranteed pass any expedition test so getting to that point quickly is ideal
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Jun 12, 2018 01:12
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I'm legit convinced Society of the Hours is the best cult, as you don't actually need exalts and demons will be supplying your endgame expeditions/assassinations/whatever anyways.
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Jun 12, 2018 01:21
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:Exploring with heart or followers or what? Is there a difference? Late reply to this, but nobody else mentioned it - It's actually really easy to get past the Woods to the next step, at least. Put Way - The Woods into Explore, then instead of putting passion in, put Lantern 4 or Knock 4. Bam, you get Way : The White Door. The White Door gives a couple of useful bits that the Woods does not, notably Restlessness to use as a Trapping in cultist upgrades, or to create Dread to defeat Fascination. I think White Door + Lantern or Knock 8 gives you the Stag door, which then gives you a riddle as to what it wants to let you progress, that's different every game Wolpertinger fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 12, 2018 |
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Jun 12, 2018 01:29
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The Stag Door riddle is different every game, yeah, and to solve if you have to read the text associated with other cards and figure out which scrap of esoteric knowledge sounds like the riddle solution.
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Jun 12, 2018 01:34
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Beefeater1980 posted:I think all the ascension victories are “standard” victories. The other category is minor victories, such as being an accountant at G&G for the rest of your life. There seems to be a rich and poor version of that one, judging from the achievements. No. There's only a poor victory from G&G. The other victory you're thinking of is succeeding at detectiving. Wolpertinger posted:Put Way - The Woods into Explore, then instead of putting passion in, put Lantern 4 or Knock 4. Bam, you get Way : The White Door. The White Door gives a couple of useful bits that the Woods does not, notably Restlessness to use as a Trapping in cultist upgrades, or to create Dread to defeat Fascination. You can also use the knowledge of the Dead (Winter 4+) to get to the White Door. Then from the White Door you must Desire something enough (it's your victory card, any level of it will do).
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Jun 12, 2018 02:11
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Pirate Radar posted:The Stag Door riddle is different every game, yeah, and to solve if you have to read the text associated with other cards and figure out which scrap of esoteric knowledge sounds like the riddle solution. As far as I can tell, Moth 6 will always work. At least it has "a solution to the riddle" on it.
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Jun 12, 2018 02:24
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Brought to trial 3 times with damning evidence, each time I was exonerated.
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Jun 12, 2018 04:25
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Also where the hell is Fucine? I kept picking up Fucine books but never found the language. Oh well. Summon a demon to teach you. I’ll have to check my madman-style notes, but I think it requires Stories and Moth(?)
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Jun 12, 2018 07:17
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Fat Samurai posted:Summon a demon to teach you. I’ll have to check my madman-style notes, but I think it requires Stories and Moth(?) The Baldomerian. Lantern / Secret Histories / Knock.
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Jun 12, 2018 07:24
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Tehan posted:The Baldomerian. Lantern / Secret Histories / Knock. Ezeem teaches you something too, but I can’t remember what it was.
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Jun 12, 2018 07:27
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Pirate Radar posted:Ezeem teaches you something too, but I can’t remember what it was. It's Phrygian.
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Jun 12, 2018 07:57
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megane posted:It's Phrygian. Cool, then I’m pretty sure I learned Fucine from a book or other item.
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Jun 12, 2018 07:58
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I actually learned Fucine from a book I found on an expedition. I wonder if that's possible for all the occult languages
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Jun 12, 2018 08:34
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I kinda love how the easiest way to get prisoners, when you start needing to feed them to Spider, or the thing you're becoming is to bum around the criminal underworld for a while, hire a likely sort, and then ask them if your cupboard smells like chloroform. Money is way easier to come by than outlets for Notoriety. This run's frustrating, though. I've run out of unique T4 expeditions, still no mirror at all. I suppose I could start grinding repeatables, but what levels even are the mirrors?
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Jun 12, 2018 08:34
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:As far as I can tell, Moth 6 will always work. At least it has "a solution to the riddle" on it. Nope. The Stag Door can and does require non-Moth lore to answer the riddles. The Moth 'solution to the riddle' is for specifically when the door wants Moth.
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Jun 12, 2018 09:51
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Pirate Radar posted:Ezeem teaches you something too, but I can’t remember what it was. And King Crucible will teach you Mandaic. Each of the Name summons can teach you a different dead language.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:21
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Here is a giant honking wallpaper version of the Mansus, for those of you who didn't back the kickstarter.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:23
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Lol @ the angry bois in the top left and right
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Jun 12, 2018 11:27
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Glazius posted:I kinda love how the easiest way to get prisoners, when you start needing to feed them to Spider, or the thing you're becoming is to bum around the criminal underworld for a while, hire a likely sort, and then ask them if your cupboard smells like chloroform. Money is way easier to come by than outlets for Notoriety. Uncommon and Rare. Merging lores to get T5 and T6 expeditions might be a better use of your time.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:28
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From the latest kickstarter update: "Watch this space while Alexis and I finish post-launch bug fixes, and then move on to new content for Cultist. There's more than one way to bring the Dawn."
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Jun 12, 2018 11:47
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So, for 'special' paintings I dropped in 3 passion, a 6-strength heart lore as the inspiration, and used a heart pigment as the paint.. and it ate the paint and gave me nothing - what did I do wrong? Pigment is really rare for me so that's frustrating.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:53
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Autonomous Monster posted:And King Crucible will teach you Mandaic. Each of the Name summons can teach you a different dead language. I got Mandaic from a bowl. I like the redundancy.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:57
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Wolpertinger posted:So, for 'special' paintings I dropped in 3 passion, a 6-strength heart lore as the inspiration, and used a heart pigment as the paint.. and it ate the paint and gave me nothing - what did I do wrong? Pigment is really rare for me so that's frustrating. This is something the game doesn’t communicate well, it’s not like Rites where it tells you when it’s going to do something. I had success with four Passion and a combined 12+ from Lore and the paint. Also, the paintings are 8, so if you ever get a Tool that’s 8+ in that aspect then you don’t really need the painting.
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You're just short on the numbers you need. I believe you need at least 14 (maybe 12?) of an aspect before a special painting will be created. Moth is far easier to create than the others because each Passion card you use adds +2 Moth to the painting.
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Fat Samurai posted:I got Mandaic from a bowl. I like the redundancy. Yeah, there's a book for everything- including Vak, though that one's a rare drop so I've never seen it.
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Jun 12, 2018 12:13
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Autonomous Monster posted:Yeah, there's a book for everything- including Vak, though that one's a rare drop so I've never seen it. Found that in the Mansus, peacock Door. Straight up Scholar - Vek, IIRC
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Jun 12, 2018 12:34
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There's no way to produce Dread on demand is there? 
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Jun 12, 2018 12:59
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Synthbuttrange posted:There's no way to produce Dread on demand is there? Talk to the Investigator about Winter lore
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Jun 12, 2018 13:02
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Synthbuttrange posted:There's no way to produce Dread on demand is there? Work -> Decrepitude to beg is pretty consistent but takes 90 seconds. Winter Lore on Talk -> Hunter also works, or so I am told.
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Jun 12, 2018 13:02
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But I need it NOOOW.. whoops there goes another one to fascination.
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Jun 12, 2018 13:15
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Two of the three cards you can get out of the revealed node in the white door decay into dread
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The biggest error you can do in this game is sleeping on dangers. The moment a Fascination or Dread doom shows up you should focus all your efforts into stopping it.
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