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So should I invest in individual Philips Hue bulbs, or get one smart switch to control a bunch of regular LED bulbs?
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Jun 6, 2018 18:15
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enraged_camel posted:So should I invest in individual Philips Hue bulbs, or get one smart switch to control a bunch of regular LED bulbs? After having Hue bulbs for about a month and messing around with putting them in various places around my house, IMO if you have a use case where color temperature shifting or full RGB are desirable get smart bulbs. If you just want automated switching or dimming, get a switch or dimmer.
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Jun 6, 2018 18:23
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Switch, definitely. Unless, as wolrah said, you really want color changing bulbs and also, consider how often you'll use said color changing after the novelty wears off (in my case, I decided that would be "never"). Two things to be aware of with switches: 1) If you don't have a neutral wire going to your switches (common in older construction), you'll almost certainly have to use the Lutron Caseta line. If your house is new-ish construction with a neutral wire, that opens the field to things like the Leviton ones as well. 2) They can be quite picky about which bulbs work and which don't. I tried about three bulbs with my Caseta system before I found one that powered on, didn't flicker, and actually turned fully off when the switch was turned off since the switch uses a trickle current to power the internal radio.
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Jun 6, 2018 19:25
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enraged_camel posted:So should I invest in individual Philips Hue bulbs, or get one smart switch to control a bunch of regular LED bulbs? Switches, because that provides visitors/you with a physical interface for whenever you don’t want to have to whip out your phone without having to buy Philips remotes and stick them on your walls (and then add a switch cover to your existing switch so it can’t be turned off and prevent you from turning the bulb on remotely.) Smart bulbs are basically a bad idea unless you have to have color, or absolutely aren’t willing to gently caress around with even a basic home automation system.
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Jun 6, 2018 19:57
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Or lamps plugged into multi-use outlets.
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Jun 6, 2018 20:48
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Magnus Praeda posted:1) If you don't have a neutral wire going to your switches (common in older construction), you'll almost certainly have to use the Lutron Caseta line. If your house is new-ish construction with a neutral wire, that opens the field to things like the Leviton ones as well. Is there a way to find out without unscrewing each and every switch and looking at the wiring?
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enraged_camel posted:Is there a way to find out without unscrewing each and every switch and looking at the wiring? Nope!
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FCKGW posted:I need to be able to set the timer without pulling out my phone or if my in laws want to use it. I still want to turn it on and off if I’m sitting in bed though. You can use a scene controller with a different time scripted to each button. The Enerwave ZWN-SC7 used to be a cheap option, but its been discontinued. Speaking of: if anyone has a clue on how to use scene controllers with Home Assistant, I'm really tired of having these things in my wall and useless since switching to HA.
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FCKGW posted:I need to be able to set the timer without pulling out my phone or if my in laws want to use it. I still want to turn it on and off if I’m sitting in bed though. If you're using home-assistant and a basic smart switch you could completely automate the fan based on inside temp, outside temp, whether someone is home or not, really any combination of factors that you can think of - and still be able to turn it on and off manually at the switch.
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Jun 7, 2018 21:28
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Humerus posted:So what does it mean if I tell my Google Home to turn on/off lights and it tells me that it can't reach Smartthings, but I can use the Smartthings app to turn them on and off? Does something need to be rebooted? Assuming the LED on the hub is green, try "Hey Google, sync my lights" and see if it starts working. If not, you may need to disconnect/reconnect SmartThings in the Assistant/Home settings. Other options include a SmartThings API outage (most lights run locally now, so your phone will always work assuming the hub hasn't poo poo a brick), some weird transient Google issue, or your hub losing its cloud connection (in which case the LED would be blue). Molten Llama fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jun 8, 2018 |
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Jun 8, 2018 03:47
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n.. posted:If you're using home-assistant and a basic smart switch you could completely automate the fan based on inside temp, outside temp, whether someone is home or not, really any combination of factors that you can think of - and still be able to turn it on and off manually at the switch. The problem with completely automating a whole house fan is that you need the windows open for it to work properly and you don't want it running when the A/C is going because it will send all your cold air into the attic. The scene controller someone posted about seems like it might do the trick.
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Ah, I don't live in a part of the country where whole house fans are a thing and assumed they'd have some sort of automatic vents that open when it's on. Not running it while the AC is going is something that can be handled by the home automation controller though. The scene controller idea would definitely work, just pointing out that there's a bunch of possibilities in making it a 'smart' timer without necessarily needing the button panel.
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Jun 9, 2018 02:02
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enraged_camel posted:So should I invest in individual Philips Hue bulbs, or get one smart switch to control a bunch of regular LED bulbs? I've had Hue for a few years now and the novelty of color lights still have not worn off for me.
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Jun 9, 2018 11:37
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Neat is having a 50 dollar off their awesome cameras. I have 3 outdoor cameras and an indoor. I can provide a link if someone wants it
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Please.
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Anyone here using the Xiaomi Gateway and their sensors? Especially in combination with OpenHAB? Does it work well together?
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Anyone here have an HVAC system with zone-control? I'm wondering how they play with thermostats such as Ecobee or Nest.
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Jun 11, 2018 23:35
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I'm currently looking for automating the lights, and a solution to integrate with mechanical switches are those tiny wall switches, like from Fibaro. They however all seem to require a neutral wire. What does that mean exactly? It needs two wires so it stays powered, or strictly a neutral for reasons? The apartment I'm living in here in Belgium has 230V three phase without neutral. Will that work regardless?
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Jun 12, 2018 18:58
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enraged_camel posted:Anyone here have an HVAC system with zone-control? I'm wondering how they play with thermostats such as Ecobee or Nest. They don't, as far as I am aware.
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Ecobee always has, I believe. https://www.ecobee.com/2010/07/ecobee-and-zone-control/
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enraged_camel posted:So should I invest in individual Philips Hue bulbs, or get one smart switch to control a bunch of regular LED bulbs? In my case, overhead lights are on smart switches, lamps are on Hues. Best of both.
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Jun 12, 2018 20:17
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Until a guest needs to turn on a lamp!
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Jun 12, 2018 20:21
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Subjunctive posted:Until a guest needs to turn on a lamp! Homeseer Switches... I just explain that they have to double tap twice. No faster than that... No you have to wait before trying again... You know what, I'll just do it.
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Subjunctive posted:Until a guest needs to turn on a lamp! They just use the lamp switch? Hue bulbs turn on full brightness when power first comes on.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:They just use the lamp switch? Hue bulbs turn on full brightness when power first comes on. At the default colour temperature, right? What's the point of a Hue if it goes back to default every time you turn it on?
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Jun 12, 2018 20:42
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I feel like there's a market out there for retrofit/replacement lamp sockets that add smart features as well as retaining the standard "twist to turn on" switch. There's an abundance of smart switches that sit between the wall and the lamp's power cord or smart bulbs but both of those fall flat when someone switches the lamp off at the socket and then you're standing there yelling at Alexa to turn the lights on in increasingly exasperated and specific ways before you realize what's happened.
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It baffles me that Hue doesn’t save the settings and start up in the same state. I wonder why that’s hard.
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Subjunctive posted:It baffles me that Hue doesn’t save the settings and start up in the same state. I wonder why that’s hard. It was really cool to get woken up by a brownout at 5:50 AM, let me tell you.
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Subjunctive posted:It baffles me that Hue doesn’t save the settings and start up in the same state. I wonder why that’s hard. It's neither hard nor baffling. Almost all smart bulbs work this way on purpose so when someone who's unfamiliar with your smart home turns the lamp off/on manually the light actually turns on like normal. I do think they should at least make it a configurable option, though.
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I have a couple Hue taps (I really only need one, but I found having one in the bathroom was nice in the morning or before bed). I can't imagine people having trouble working them, but if they did they have ones that just look like dimmer switches. Like obviously not the cheapest solution to smart lights but if you're buying Hue you left that road a long time ago anyway.
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n.. posted:It's neither hard nor baffling. Almost all smart bulbs work this way on purpose so when someone who's unfamiliar with your smart home turns the lamp off/on manually the light actually turns on like normal. As opposed to turning on with the correct colour temperature and brightness, as set by the owner? Do they think the previous setting was a mistake? My dimmers don’t go to 100% every time I turn them on, which is why I haven’t incinerated them.
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I don't think the lights themselves actually maintain state, I think that's happening on the hub.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:They just use the lamp switch? Hue bulbs turn on full brightness when power first comes on. Should have added that I also have a hue tap in one of the rooms too. Rick posted:Like obviously not the cheapest solution to smart lights but if you're buying Hue you left that road a long time ago anyway. Agreed on that. Having said that, worth every penny for the the excellent colours and fine lighting controls. The price was in part why I went with it for accent lighting only rather than general/overhead lighting... but TBH I didn't save that much as I have majority lamps that became majority hue-d when hue addiction set in. Rooted Vegetable fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Subjunctive posted:It baffles me that Hue doesn’t save the settings and start up in the same state. I wonder why that’s hard. It should be easy, so the answer is probably "patents".
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My own personal vision of hell:
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Jun 22, 2018 02:45
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Hubis posted:My own personal vision of hell:
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Presumably Google is gender neutral just to avoid such anxiety.
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Anyone have a ceiling fan hooked up to a smart fan control wall switch? If so, what are the voice commands? I’m having my bedroom wired for one soonish, and I can’t seem to find anything on how the fan settings work. I’m getting the fan-specific ge model. Is it a percentage thing? High medium low? I don’t know how it works with SmartThings on the back end, but I would imagine how it’s displayed there would be how Alexa would control it.
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housefly posted:Anyone have a ceiling fan hooked up to a smart fan control wall switch? If so, what are the voice commands? I’m having my bedroom wired for one soonish, and I can’t seem to find anything on how the fan settings work. I’m getting the fan-specific ge model. Is it a percentage thing? High medium low? I don’t know how it works with SmartThings on the back end, but I would imagine how it’s displayed there would be how Alexa would control it. You talk to it like a normal dimmer, use percentages.
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