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xzzy posted:To absolutely no one's surprise. I'm not sure what perk you would want on a Better Devils that would turn it into something that shits on a Y1 Better Devils. It seems if it's a great gun now, so it will remain. New guns can and may shame Y1 gear on a case-by-case but I get the sense a Y1 "god roll" will still be just that.
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haveblue posted:The joke gun from Borderlands that yells at you for being a bad person, except it's Cayde In the lore Super Good Advice would have a voice. And all the ahamkara gear would wisper sweet nothings to the wearer. Imagine a world where these where actually true, and withouth the risky humour of borderlands. Or imagine a Thorn that comment on every guardian killed like "Good one, added to the collessstion". "this one will now seeerve the darkness". Probably is good that we get nothing of that, because is easier to do it wrong, or in a way that is not ok for everyone. Tei fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Maker Of Shoes posted:keep playing until you're the lucky rear end in a top hat Hell yeah, chasing the perfect saladin vigil in archon forge was awesome and fun. I miss it. Tei posted:In the lore Super Good Advice would have a voice. And all the ahamkara gear would wisper sweet nothings to the wearer. Suck my dick, oh bearer mine
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Jun 13, 2018 16:06
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Hunter void blades. Looks a lot like bladedancer except more acrobatic and you can go invisible https://twitter.com/T1gigz/status/1006855920326881281
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Jun 13, 2018 16:06
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lmao that looks like pure unfiltered aids and i love it
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Jun 13, 2018 16:14
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gently caress yeah, embrace the darkness gets me turgid
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Maker Of Shoes posted:lmao that looks like pure unfiltered aids and i love it
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Yeah I’ll probably just carry certain Y1 guns forever because I’ve always hated random rolls. They could be fine with a re-roll system or something that says “look, we value your time and will give you what you really want if you accomplish this checklist”. But that goes against the people who want it to provide Destiny with 1400-hour level content growth.
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I wasn't around for it, but apparently rerolling was a thing during destiny 1, and everybody did it for tens of hours, and it was... Bad?
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Jun 13, 2018 16:41
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Okay apparently you can completely melt the spire boss by using six coils in an empowering rift. They continuously stun him so he can't use rockets.
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I think it would be cool, good, and in line with Bungie's whole "we want to give you things to build and work towards" apology angle with Forsaken to have both random rolls and sort of a perk re-roll system in line with Masterworks. Just let people re-roll individual perks with Masterworks style cost, so if you get That Gun You Wanted but it doesn't have a god roll you can slowly build it up to a gun you want but you can still find that god roll in your rewards.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I wasn't around for it, but apparently rerolling was a thing during destiny 1, and everybody did it for tens of hours, and it was... Bad? Yes. instead of doing things that would get you another chance at the gun + roll you wanted you just mashed the same button over and over again at banshee
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actionjackson posted:Okay apparently you can completely melt the spire boss by using six coils in an empowering rift. They continuously stun him so he can't use rockets. Have you seen the Calus Surfing strategy where you intercept the balls and toss them back to your team? It's hilarious. Full boss kill in under one second.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I wasn't around for it, but apparently rerolling was a thing during destiny 1, and everybody did it for tens of hours, and it was... Bad? People would spend all their time and every resource they had working a particular gun until they got a god roll, then they'd have an advantage in crucible because some of the perks were expected to be balanced by rarity or by the weapon having a less than godlike roll overall. It made for a simpler, more static meta, but also had very onerous requirements to participate, but you had to participate to be competitive, so it didn't benefit the game or the players and was removed.
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actionjackson posted:Okay apparently you can completely melt the spire boss by using six coils in an empowering rift. They continuously stun him so he can't use rockets. I wanna see this GoGoGadgetChris posted:Have you seen the Calus Surfing strategy where you intercept the balls and toss them back to your team? It's hilarious. Full boss kill in under one second. This too
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I wasn't around for it, but apparently rerolling was a thing during destiny 1, and everybody did it for tens of hours, and it was... Bad? Static pvp meta with some retarded broken perks so everyone was running ridiculous felwinters and final round snipers
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So they need the perks to be good enough to warrant chasing, but not so good that they're required to be competitive And they need to be rare enough that it's not a "everyone has them" static meta, but common enough that you can get one with some effort I liked the late year 3 strategy where every single perk was decent so it was a matter of which of the +range and +stability perks you got on your clever dragon, not whether you got grave robber, third eye, and pulse monitor
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Yes. instead of doing things that would get you another chance at the gun + roll you wanted you just mashed the same button over and over again at banshee Or farming for gun parts, which were weirdly super hard to come by at the time. Probably because you still needed to spend them to unlock the perks your gun came with lol. I also remember this leading to hilarious advice in the thread like "uh, just don't use any of the guns you find ever and you'll have plenty of gun parts!!"
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:So they need the perks to be good enough to warrant chasing, but not so good that they're required to be competitive Yeah year 3 guns were god danged perfect and they blew it all up lmao
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Hulk Krogan posted:Or farming for gun parts, which were weirdly super hard to come by at the time. Probably because you still needed to spend them to unlock the perks your gun came with lol. Shard the first of everything, brother Keep the second
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Shard the first of everything, brother Worth mentioning that this was before Bungie embraced the Diablo philosophy of absolutely raining purples on you and letting you sort out what was good. Back then you mostly got blues so it wasn't like it is now, where you can be reasonably confident you'll get another dick.Summoner v3.2 hand cannon to drop before too long.
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PathAsc posted:I wanna see this https://youtu.be/0hsKXpS9Fcg
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I miss renown. I havent played D2 in a long while, it just happened to be that i picked it up last week during the faction rally and the renoun patrolling around planets was the best. There was an objective (do stuff-> get to 5 -> kill boss) that had just enough variability, and the difficulty was fun for me, not too hard, not too easy. I played a bit last night and it just was boring as gently caress. Why can't we turn this on? I don't even care if I get extra drops from it, I just want a fun game to play.
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Jun 13, 2018 17:25
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Just check the saved twitch videos of xgladd
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That is hilarious. The yellow bar just disappeared under the onslaught of Wardcliff rockets.
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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mitztronic posted:I miss renown. I havent played D2 in a long while, it just happened to be that i picked it up last week during the faction rally and the renoun patrolling around planets was the best. There was an objective (do stuff-> get to 5 -> kill boss) that had just enough variability, and the difficulty was fun for me, not too hard, not too easy. I played a bit last night and it just was boring as gently caress. Why can't we turn this on? I don't even care if I get extra drops from it, I just want a fun game to play. I don't miss having my recovery turn off because I accidentally completed a patrol in the middle of a public event  I agree that it gave some much needed structure to faction rally and it's good that it finally gave us a reason to repeat lost sectors, but it's not perfect and overstayed its welcome quite a bit by the end.
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haveblue posted:but it's not perfect and overstayed its welcome quite a bit by the end. especially when you were done with the fuckin rally and just wanted to do some ep
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Again, must change: -Renown effect should only kick in when you're actually in a lost sector -Cut the time investment by at least 40% -Add an intermediate perk for wearing a partial armor set
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haveblue posted:Again, must change: I will second this.
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haveblue posted:People would spend all their time and every resource they had working a particular gun until they got a god roll, then they'd have an advantage in crucible because some of the perks were expected to be balanced by rarity or by the weapon having a less than godlike roll overall. It made for a simpler, more static meta, but also had very onerous requirements to participate, but you had to participate to be competitive, so it didn't benefit the game or the players and was removed. If different perks (and different guns) had equal utility but targeted different play styles, it's not an issue. A full armory of They're Good Guns, Brent seems like a lot to ask for, though.
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haveblue posted:I don't miss having my recovery turn off because I accidentally completed a patrol in the middle of a public event Right, I think it was an awful decision to make it mandatory, so it should be togglable in the Ghost menu or something. It’s just such an easy way to add goal based gameplay and a solo difficulty increase that the game is desperately lacking. Yeah, I know there’s heroic adventures... I just want options to keep things fresh
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EP shotty is alright, I guess.
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Hulk Krogan posted:EP shotty is alright, I guess. BTW you didn't even use it correctly in this clip. Melee your target and you get a few seconds' buff of "Trench Barrel" or something where you do Lol Bonus Damage (I'm guessing your allies shot the Lander with rockets in the clip)
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Et tu, Pro Gun Control?
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Hulk Krogan posted:Et tu, Pro Gun Control? dont worry, i got u fam 
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Bungies advertising is wild https://twitter.com/ChrisCaesar/status/1006649920240177152?s=19
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 A Buff Gay Dude posted:Bungies advertising is wild 
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:BTW you didn't even use it correctly in this clip. Melee your target and you get a few seconds' buff of "Trench Barrel" or something where you do Lol Bonus Damage Trench Barrel also only procs if you melee when you have the shotgun out
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Saint 14 shotgun still melts if you're rng poor like me.
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couple stacks of rampage before mag dumping the remainder into a fat yellow bar still makes paradox v good
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