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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

sexpig by night posted:

Like, this is also huge in the LGBT world. There's tons of 'but Pride is so...SEXUAL' or 'can't we just go to another baker???' types who are more focused on saying 'no no see those faggots who are gross and scary are just a minority of us, so you should like us!' That's...not actually fighting bigotry, that's pushing assimilation as the only valid path.
Wilbur had some good rear end in a top hat.

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Halloween Jack posted:

You're arguing that because the "average" white suburbanite doesn't subscribe to any particular weird mystical race doctrine, they're therefore not that racist. That doesn't really make sense.

The problem also isn't strictly racism, it's a worldview of entitlement (the status quo exists to take care of me and gently caress everyone else) and general paranoia that examines every social problem through a siege mentality.

Fair enough, I agree with that general premise, but I think it's defeatist to just treat every single person in that demographic as completely unreachable. And I definitely understand that level of cynicism, but we need to have some amount of optimism that people can change if we ever want any kind of major political change. We can't just wait for all the boomers to die and then hope our generation doesn't become like them.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Henchman of Santa posted:

Yes but not all of them or even a plurality of them. Your average white exurban person isn't bragging about having pure European DNA. Most of them won't be reasoned into wokeness, but people can change if presented with the right ideas.

Have you heard of this little show called The West Wing? I think it'll be right up your alley!

Henchman of Santa posted:

Fair enough, I agree with that general premise, but I think it's defeatist to just treat every single person in that demographic as completely unreachable. And I definitely understand that level of cynicism, but we need to have some amount of optimism that people can change if we ever want any kind of major political change. We can't just wait for all the boomers to die and then hope our generation doesn't become like them.

As long as the suburbs and exurbs exist they will breed this kind of atomized isolated person. The policy should be to massively increase affordable housing availability in major cities and use the power of the purse to stop subsidizing suburbanites. They need to become not viable places to live, then you will see real change.

Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jun 12, 2018

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Gynocentric Regime posted:

Have you heard of this little show called The West Wing? I think it'll be right up your alley!
gently caress off.

quote:

As long as the suburbs and exurbs exist they will breed this kind of atomized isolated person. The policy should be to massively increase affordable housing availability in major cities and use the power of the purse to stop subsidizing suburbanites. They need to become not viable places to live, then you will see real change.

This is an interesting idea, though, and I'm curious how it would be implemented.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Henchman of Santa posted:

Fair enough, I agree with that general premise, but I think it's defeatist to just treat every single person in that demographic as completely unreachable. And I definitely understand that level of cynicism, but we need to have some amount of optimism that people can change if we ever want any kind of major political change. We can't just wait for all the boomers to die and then hope our generation doesn't become like them.
I'm not cynical, it's a question of tactics. The Democratic Party just blew the easiest layup in the history of the US Presidential election because their #1 priority was winning over affluent Republicans.

There's nothing wrong with trying to change people in your own life. But it's a dubious tactic for any kind of sizable activist or electoral movement. I do support, as an example, Medicare4All canvassing, because healthcare is a crisis that's ruining the lives of even affluent petit-bourgeois, and it usually takes something that drastic to shock them out of their lazy brand of conservatism.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Henchman of Santa posted:

gently caress off.


This is an interesting idea, though, and I'm curious how it would be implemented.

getting amazon to build their hq2 in your city and then playing hardball to avoid paying agreed upon taxes to help provide assistance to homeless populations would be a good start

https://twitter.com/MayorJenny/status/1006271923209138177

huh?

quote:

SEATTLE - Shouting and anger erupted at a fiery town hall on homelessness and a proposed big business tax to help.

The public meeting came just hours after Amazon raised the stakes - halting a major construction project and putting thousands of jobs in limbo until a tax decision is made.

oh...
http://komonews.com/news/local/outrage-devolves-into-disrespect-at-town-hall-on-seattles-head-tax

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Halloween Jack posted:

There's nothing wrong with trying to change people in your own life. But it's a dubious tactic for any kind of sizable activist or electoral movement. I do support, as an example, Medicare4All canvassing, because healthcare is a crisis that's ruining the lives of even affluent petit-bourgeois, and it usually takes something that drastic to shock them out of their lazy brand of conservatism.

For sure. That particular issue seems to be the one thing I can never find anyone arguing against, except maybe some affluent doctors in my extended family. Sometimes it seems like having a crisis is the only way to get someone to seriously consider leftist policies. How much of the young socialist movement is made up of people from bougie suburban liberal families who got out into the real world and realized how loving dire it is?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Almost all of them; affluent red diaper babies (like Will Menaker) mostly only exist in the minds of Hillary deadenders on Twitter.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Henchman of Santa posted:

gently caress off.


This is an interesting idea, though, and I'm curious how it would be implemented.

The first step is to get a dedicated core of activists to run for seats on the city council, these are races were it only takes a relatively small number of people to swing an election. Then the next step should then be to get Vacancy Taxes, Rent Control and Short Term Rental bans in place. The landlords need to know that the days of wine and roses are over. Conversely stop subsidizing the suburbs by building septuple and octuple roads out into them. Now I'm not talking about Interstate Highways, I'm talking about local highways that server no other purpose than for everyone to commute to the city for work. All it wouldn't start all at once, as the roads need maintenance start to narrow them and spend the savings on mass transit. Sure traffic will be horrible but that's the point, it's the stick.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Phone posted:

getting amazon to build their hq2 in your city and then playing hardball to avoid paying agreed upon taxes to help provide assistance to homeless populations would be a good start

https://twitter.com/MayorJenny/status/1006271923209138177

huh?


oh...
http://komonews.com/news/local/outrage-devolves-into-disrespect-at-town-hall-on-seattles-head-tax

i was at this town hall and god drat it was loving nuts and incredibly depressing. one guy proposed rounding up homeless people on camera and drug testing them on live tv. so many of these people wouldn’t mind if they were sent to camps and killed.

this news about the head tax repeal is so dispiriting too, it just seems like progress is impossible sometimes. the fight foes on though. but don’t let anyone fool you that seattle is some progressive haven, like any other big city it is ruled by wealthy and powerful interests.

Wraith of J.O.I. fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 12, 2018

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Phone posted:

getting amazon to build their hq2 in your city and then playing hardball to avoid paying agreed upon taxes to help provide assistance to homeless populations would be a good start

https://twitter.com/MayorJenny/status/1006271923209138177

huh?


oh...
http://komonews.com/news/local/outrage-devolves-into-disrespect-at-town-hall-on-seattles-head-tax

https://twitter.com/BryanDisagrees/status/1006624196900937730?s=19

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Henchman of Santa posted:

gently caress off.


This is an interesting idea, though, and I'm curious how it would be implemented.

Make them pay for their own roads.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Halloween Jack posted:

"White Obama, White Obama, my whole crew eatin' dog and llama..."

"My whole crew eatin' DOG!"

"Labrador!"
I still really want to know what this meant

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Halloween Jack posted:

I still really want to know what this meant
"Obama ate dog during his childhood in Indonesia" was either something he actually mentioned in his autobiography or just a dumb conservative grandpa email smear, I genuinely forget.

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.

Halloween Jack posted:

I still really want to know what this meant

There's a rap song where the lyrics are something like " we gettin rich bitch my whole crew eatin" and they changed it to my "whole crew eatin dog" because Obama eating dog has been a racist meme or whatever for forever.

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Oh it was from his book, I wasn't making that up:

quote:

With Lolo, I learned how to eat small green chili peppers raw with dinner (plenty of rice), and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), and roasted grasshopper (crunchy).
And Felix is singing it to banger of the year "Black Flanders".

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
you better believe he ate that dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuhQ5hKDhw

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Fear of a Black Flanders

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Let's check in on anti-Chapo normal-brained person @thucydiplease...

https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1006587502608580608

oh

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Apoplexy posted:

Let's check in on anti-Chapo normal-brained person @thucydiplease...

https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1006587502608580608

oh

You can't just bring him up without mentioning that he doesn't know how to poop

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I didn't know ANYTHING about that. Explain, please! I love hearing about this anti-Chapo, embarrassingly-obvious-psyop 'tard's life.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Apoplexy posted:

I didn't know ANYTHING about that. Explain, please! I love hearing about this anti-Chapo, embarrassingly-obvious-psyop 'tard's life.

I unfortunately can’t find it because HonoredSpirit is gone apparently, but there was a leaked DM in which he discussed how he was pooping incorrectly his entire life somehow and that led to constipation and he literally had to be taught proper technique as an adult.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

I didn't realize there was something that could be done wrong. Maybe I'm also pooping wrong.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Henchman of Santa posted:

I unfortunately can’t find it because HonoredSpirit is gone apparently, but there was a leaked DM in which he discussed how he was pooping incorrectly his entire life somehow and that led to constipation and he literally had to be taught proper technique as an adult.

Dang. No specificities, but apparently he had to see a gastroenterologist who told him to stop being too retarded to poop. Also: C-SPAM with the mega-burn on Connor 'Conor' 'AUTISTIC QUEER SOCIALITE' Arpwel's special needs and disability advocacy: "he agitates for disabled access for people like himself where it's just putting textured surfaces over everything and a hugbox in the bathroom that blocks the ADA door press"

Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.
Yeah someone else was in the same chapter as him and revealed that the building they hold their meetings in isn't actually wheelchair accessible since it's an old church building with narrow stairs and they haven't finished installing an elevator yet.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

i'm still lost on how someone manages to poop incorrectly

like was he just standing astride the bowl? sitting on the cistern facing the wall? reaching in and removing turds individually by hand?

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

noodling catfish but instead of catfish its feces

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
There's a school of thought that squatting is the proper and natural way to defecate. So maybe he's a squat-evangelist now.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Nothus posted:

There's a school of thought that squatting is the proper and natural way to defecate. So maybe he's a squat-evangelist now.

it is. put your feet up on a stool when you poop and change your life

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Squat toilets take some adjusting to but they do kind of rule (as long as you don't get the squirts)

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
the worst part about opioids being awful and the only thing doctors will prescribe for pain that nobody will tell you is you'll have to say goodbye to making GBS threads normally ever

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Grammar-Bolshevik posted:

Far left forum posters will never have a reality that passes their purity test, this just looks like the lacy green thing to me.

lacy green fucks a guy who shares white genocide memes.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Groovelord Neato posted:

lacy green fucks a guy who shares white genocide memes.

But she’s bringing him into the light! :downs:

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
Didn't Laci Green also turn real hard into the "THERE'S ONLY 2 GENDERS" and real heavy gender essential-ism bullshit ('weirdly' around the time she started dating the Nazi)

But yeah no people who don't like her are just being dumb.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Didn't Laci Green also turn real hard into the "THERE'S ONLY 2 GENDERS" and real heavy gender essential-ism bullshit ('weirdly' around the time she started dating the Nazi)

But yeah no people who don't like her are just being dumb.

No you see, she is into sex education and does not want to put all nonwhites into cages, love her she is a liberal

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Didn't Laci Green also turn real hard into the "THERE'S ONLY 2 GENDERS" and real heavy gender essential-ism bullshit ('weirdly' around the time she started dating the Nazi)

But yeah no people who don't like her are just being dumb.

Worse, she went full TERF. Hopefully though what happened to her, and now Natalie, will be a wake up call for anyone who thinks that they can innocently hang out with racists and fascists. I don’t have high hopes though because you know, white people.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Genuine question, how do people even know who these internet people are slapping genitals with?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


internet people are way too open about who they're with.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Letters: The NYC Subway Is Not ‘Beyond Repair’

I have a degree in infrastructure engineering and am an engineer-in-training in the field, but the inaccuracies in question are not nearly so arcane as to require such credentials.

The respective capacities of free-flowing vehicular lanes and subway transit are well established. Generously, a freeway lane might carry 2,000 vehicles per hour, which—again, generously—might each carry somewhere between one and two travelers, on average. This gives us a high-end estimate of moving 2,000 to 4,000 people per hour in a single direction.

An MTA subway track, such as Mr. Wayner effectively proposes to replace with a single lane of traffic, is capable of carrying in excess of 30,000 people per hour. This is not a small difference and makes one wonder whether the author has considered it.




(It goes on, but at least there seem to be sensible people telling the Atlantic that they hire stupid people.)



Peter Wayner replies:

Mr. Zerr and Mr. Kreuter make the same mistake that many do by assuming that the autonomous vehicles will flow like human-driven cars. Consider as a thought experiment a line of hoverboards a mile long with 10 feet of empty space behind each one. That’s 528 people. If they move 15 miles an hour, the tunnel will carry 7,290 people per hour.

Hoverboards are slim and we can slice the tunnel into three, four, or maybe five lanes and carry 23,760, 31,680 or 39,600 people per hour. Thinner lanes are a big advantage because a mishap or planned maintenance in one slim lane wouldn’t block everything. That speaks to Mr. Brumer’s point.

Interested readers can repeat the same experiment with two lanes of five-foot-wide autonomous cars spaced 20 feet apart, carrying four passengers and going 30 miles an hour. These can offer airbags and other safety features missing from trains.

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AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009
Ah yes, hoverboards. Why didn't we all think of hoverboards?

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