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Zelder posted:"I'm just pretending to be a neo Nazi online to piss people off" is some next level galaxy brain stuff Why not? If my express purpose is to make someone mad why wouldn't I? E: fair enough, but honestly if someone is that mad I'm not gonna suddenly get defensive and be like "I'm not!" Over a video game arguement, ya know?
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dogstile posted:Why not? I'm gonna pull back from this conversation and disengage, I feel like we have fundamentally incompatible worldviews here But in a era where the internet and the real world get less and less separated every day, you really shouldn't tell people you're a neo nazi. That seems obvious
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One of the reasons you kill people on sight in these sort of pvp games is you can't trust they won't do the same to you. Preemptive offense is simply prudent.
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My Bethesda conspiracy theory: Bethesda realizes their fanbase is vocal and aggravated by most of their decisions, so they've started harnessing that power by announcing the details of their games in the most triggering way possible for some part of their audience. remember when doom was going to be mp focused full of QTEs? Like they understand where people are going to criticize a project, so they start there with the announcement. Then they reveal more details and people go "ohhh well why didn't you say that in the first place" while people have a very visible argument on Twitter and fb and keep the media blitz on the front page of gaming news sites. Wolfenstein 2 piggy backed on the fascism in America whirlwind, even though the game barely did anything with that aside from being window dressing but it sure made people talk about it. I'd bet money that in a month the details of 76 will have been clarified, but some will never be happy about it no matter what. It's part of the plan.
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Can we just all admit that Fallout 76 is a Raider simulator? Stockpile all the drugs and go on a Player-Killing spree, Wanted level be damned; make a game out of it: see how high it gets before you're brought down
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i will never forgive Bethesda for using the power of CHIM to turn Cyrodiil from a jungle into a boring genericnforest.
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Zelder posted:I'm gonna pull back from this conversation and disengage, I feel like we have fundamentally incompatible worldviews here I said I'd agree and continue poking the bear, not that I'd open up with it 
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"I spent 3 hours wandering around the wasteland and refusing to actually do any of the content but I killed that guy once (and can never actually attack him again) I sure showed him"
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I don't care if people are "pretending" to be racist neo-Nazis for the purposes of "trolling," they're still not the type of people I want to interact with, especially during the increasingly-limited time I have to play video gamesHarry Potter on Ice posted:Is anyone excited to run around the wasteland with friends? I'm so excited to run around the wasteland with friends. Nope, no one else is excited to run around the wasteland with friends. And guess what? God hates you, specifically because you're excited to run around the wasteland with friends 
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Donovan Trip posted:My Bethesda conspiracy theory: Bethesda realizes their fanbase is vocal and aggravated by most of their decisions, so they've started harnessing that power by announcing the details of their games in the most triggering way possible for some part of their audience. remember when doom was going to be mp focused full of QTEs? Like they understand where people are going to criticize a project, so they start there with the announcement. Then they reveal more details and people go "ohhh well why didn't you say that in the first place" while people have a very visible argument on Twitter and fb and keep the media blitz on the front page. With the amount nonsense that's been espoused in this thread, I'm not sure how serious you are.
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Garrand posted:(and can never actually attack him again) Wonder how that'll work
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What I really don't get is the people being hype as loudly as possible. I thought we all learned this lesson back in the early 2000s; even if you like what you're seeing, don't get hype because you'll just be disappointed.
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dogstile posted:I said I'd agree and continue poking the bear, not that I'd open up with it That's the thing though, in this hypothetical situation people don't open with "I hate racists are you one", the entire thing usually starts because of some shithead making a racist remark, racist name, whatever.
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Yardbomb posted:That's the thing though, in this hypothetical situation people don't open with "I hate racists are you one", the entire thing usually starts because of some shithead making a racist remark, racist name, whatever. Not in my experience man I can gently caress with people by saying "I like trump" and get called a Nazi
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Keeshhound posted:What I really don't get is the people being hype as loudly as possible. I thought we all learned this lesson back in the early 2000s; even if you like what you're seeing, don't get hype because you'll just be disappointed. It goes further than hype, what we have in this thread is people stomping their feet and  -ing because there are apparently some people who have the audacity to not automatically love every single game that comes out. Hell, mere skepticism about this game with the caveat of "it might be fun, i dunno" is causing people to freak the gently caress out
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what if theres like a police power armor and you have a little siren on top of the helmet that spins and lights up whenever youre shooting things
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Rinkles posted:With the amount nonsense that's been espoused in this thread, I'm not sure how serious you are. controversy as a marketing strategy
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Sheen Sheen posted:It goes further than hype, what we have in this thread is people stomping their feet and wait are you not the one stomping your feet and ing in this scenario?
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mothman comes flying over the horizon and then my power armor is all just like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c
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I have yet to see anyone in this thread who is what I would describe as "hyped" about this game. The response is either tepid excitement for a new fallout brand game or people who think this is literally the end of single player Fallout and from now on it's just gonna be Battle Royale games.
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For anyone who dropped $200 to preorder the helmet edition of the game (before it sold out 11 hours after the E3 announcement) here's your new toy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmCqB8ej8Y Popete posted:I have yet to see anyone in this thread who is what I would describe as "hyped" about this game. The response is either tepid excitement for a new fallout brand game or people who think this is literally the end of single player Fallout and from now on it's just gonna be Battle Royale games. For what it's worth, I didn't preorder nor will I. But I might pick up this game (soon) after launch if things sound good.
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That's a marketing strategy, not the foundation of your design document
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Otacon posted:For anyone who dropped $200 to preorder the helmet edition of the game (before it sold out 11 hours after the E3 announcement) here's your new toy: the pc $200 preorder with the helmet version sold out a couple hours after the announcement lol
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Popete posted:I have yet to see anyone in this thread who is what I would describe as "hyped" about this game. The response is either tepid excitement for a new fallout brand game or people who think this is literally the end of single player Fallout and from now on it's just gonna be Battle Royale games. Bro I am so pumped for this game I literally am making GBS threads myself all day everyday till it comes out. I can't wait to pump newbs full of lead and lasers and then blow up their 12 year old inspired titty shacks and dong castles. I can't wait to spend money on this and ruin the few imaginary friendships I entertain I am in with coworkers. I have literally decided to have no critical view of this game because I am completely lacking anything close to brains and I think with my butt or something. 
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:wait are you not the one stomping your feet and No, I've just been trying to have an actual discussion about why I'm not excited for Fallout 76 with people like you who are either unwilling or unable to respond in kind. I know, it's my fault for mistaking you and others like you for a rational adult rather than a dipshit who just wants to make snarky one-liners and get all butt hurt about people being big meanies to the video game that you haven't played but have for some bizarre reason pledged your undying love for Like, I can't possibly see how someone with an ounce of intelligence or reading comprehension could read my posts in he last few pages and think I'm -ing about this game rather than being rational about it, but again--it's my fault for trying to treat idiots like they're mature adults
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Berke Negri posted:mothman comes flying over the horizon and then my power armor is all just like Extended flight jetpacks would be cool. There's a lot of room for new PA gadgets and mods.
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Otacon posted:For anyone who dropped $200 to preorder the helmet edition of the game (before it sold out 11 hours after the E3 announcement) here's your new toy: By the time I'm 90 and we're on fallout 26 or something I might be able to collect an entire suit of power armour and a pipboy if I had a million pounds.
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Rinkles posted:That's a marketing strategy, not the foundation of your design document We don't really know anything concrete about how the game works, only the ways in which it's strikingly different from other games of theirs. If you don't think it's part of the plan that the audience runs around the internet screaming right now, I dunno man. They seem to purposely be keeping details about plot and quests and how you interact with other players vague. Either they have no clue what they are doing as a developer despite 25+ years of developing games or they don't want you to know how it works yet. It's not that hard to fathom that the things they are announcing right now are calculated to stir controversy. The details on the game are so, so minor. Look at the theories in this thread or elsewhere to see how effective this strategy is. Of course I'm basing this on very little other than it being a winning formula for everyone from Kanye West to the President. The goal is social media interaction and visibility.
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Popete posted:I have yet to see anyone in this thread who is what I would describe as "hyped" about this game. The response is either tepid excitement for a new fallout brand game or people who think this is literally the end of single player Fallout and from now on it's just gonna be Battle Royale games. Harry Potter on Ice posted:Is anyone excited to run around the wasteland with friends? I'm so excited to run around the wasteland with friends. I hope we run into some other people and fight them, I don't even care if we lose. I bet a deathclaw spawns in the middle of the fight and we have to band together to kill it and then we go back to killing each other. This game is going to be awesome I guess we just have different versions of hype.
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Keeshhound posted:I guess we just have different versions of hype. I'm hyped to play fallout with friends! 
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Sheen Sheen posted:No, I've just been trying to have an actual discussion about why I'm not excited for Fallout 76 with people like you who are either unwilling or unable to respond in kind. I know, it's my fault for mistaking you and others like you for a rational adult rather than a dipshit who just wants to make snarky one-liners and get all butt hurt about people being big meanies to the video game that you haven't played but have for some bizarre reason pledged your undying love for What is there to discuss? You don't like the unreleased game based off of some vague interviews and press releases and you've made that clear repeatedly. We get it - you've made your point. Anyway, here's another new Todd Howard interview. Fallout "discussion" ends around 9 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHmPb5nQHbU TL;DW review: quote:2:52 - More information about how it will compare to fo3 and fo4 experience
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:I'm hyped to play fallout with friends! I'm glad for you, dude. I hope you're not disappointed.
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I suppose maybe this might be interesting in a GTAV kind of way though if that game's playerbase is anything go by it's going to be much more palatable offline.
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Otacon posted:TL;DW review: Confirmed, no Fallout 5. The future of Fallout franchise is 76.
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Rinkles posted:Extended flight jetpacks would be cool. There's a lot of room for new PA gadgets and mods. ground jetpacks that let my power armor dash forward/side to side
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I've been getting a little more interested after the various interviews and footage. Probably going to pick it up once private servers and mods come out.
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7c Nickel posted:I've been getting a little more interested after the various interviews and footage. Probably going to pick it up once private servers and mods come out. I agree save for mods. I am not sure I want to alter anything but I am pumped about "dungeons" and exploring with people. Base building will be pretty rad too. Maybe if the mod fixed a broken issue but then everyone has to be on the same mod set so meh but maybe.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:do you think this is a real thing? that the QA team is the people who decide what version of the game goes to print and they could hand a build to the manufacturers that just said 'suck it nerds' and no one could stop it? this is how people wind up believing the earth is flat. Don't be obtuse, this isn't some some grand conspiracy to trick Obsidian out of money, it's that the publication of NV speaks volumes of Bethesda's confidence as developers to follow through on things. It's especially not hard to see that given Bethesda's current buggy track record for literally all the games they release. They're QA team sucks, always have, always will.
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