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mcmagic posted:It's going to be pretty funny if this stupid deck that no one knows how to play against and only 1 guy can win with ends up getting Mox Opal banned. I don't think they're going to ban a deck that can't beat a stony silence unless it takes 4 hours to combo off like eggs.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:03
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AnEdgelord posted:I don't think they're going to ban a deck that can't beat a stony silence unless it takes 4 hours to combo off like eggs. The deck is a pretty bad play experience... I'm not advocating a ban though.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:05
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mcmagic posted:It's going to be pretty funny if this stupid deck that no one knows how to play against and only 1 guy can win with ends up getting Mox Opal banned. I haven't been following Modern at all. Why'd the deck suddenly reappear? Something get printed (The Antiquities War?), or did they just figure out the right configuration?
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Jun 17, 2018 16:06
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mcmagic posted:The deck is a pretty bad play experience... I'm not advocating a ban though. Eh? If we are going to start talking about decks with bad play experience that pretty much comprises the entire tier 1 of Modern aside from poo poo like Jeskai, Mardu Pyromancer and Jund.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:11
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Rinkles posted:I haven't been following Modern at all. Why'd the deck suddenly reappear? Something get printed (The Antiquities War?), or did they just figure out the right configuration? Scrap Trawler and people figuring out the interaction with Chromatic Sphere/Star.
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Rinkles posted:I haven't been following Modern at all. Why'd the deck suddenly reappear? Something get printed (The Antiquities War?), or did they just figure out the right configuration? Scrap Trawler and Inventor's Fair. Eli Kassis was playing with the saga but Nass wasn't. If they wanted to kill several birds with one stone, just get rid of Modern's best cantrip: Ancient Stirrings.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:11
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AnEdgelord posted:Eh? If we are going to start talking about decks with bad play experience that pretty much comprises the entire tier 1 of Modern aside from poo poo like Jeskai, Mardu Pyromancer and Jund. It's worse than most. But yes, I agree, modern sucks.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:14
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mcmagic posted:It's worse than most. But yes, I agree, modern sucks. I still enjoy modern as a format but I can admit that most of the decks in it are pretty uninteresting and losing to any one of them causes a lot of feelbads.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:16
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You guys keep saying "most" of the decks in modern are bad gameplay but I'm curious which specific ones you might be talking about because a quick look at the mtggoldfish meta breakdown suggests, to me at least, that there like maybe 2 decks in the top 15 that are actually bad and unfun: bogles and storm. I'll add Tron to the list I guess, although I've never really been bothered by Tron personally, I know a lot of people don't like it. What is it about the modern meta that y'all find so objectionable?
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Jun 17, 2018 16:26
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mcmagic posted:It's going to be pretty funny if this stupid deck that no one knows how to play against and only 1 guy can win with ends up getting Mox Opal banned. Well, it's not like it's just one guy that plays the deck. There were two playing it in top8, and the 9th place finisher played it too.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:26
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sit on my Facebook posted:You guys keep saying "most" of the decks in modern are bad gameplay but I'm curious which specific ones you might be talking about because a quick look at the mtggoldfish meta breakdown suggests, to me at least, that there like maybe 2 decks in the top 15 that are actually bad and unfun: bogles and storm. I'll add Tron to the list I guess, although I've never really been bothered by Tron personally, I know a lot of people don't like it. People tend to get pretty salty when you manage to hit a turn1 hollow one off a burning inquiry. That said, playing a turn1 Burning Inquiry feels pretty good for the hollow one player. It's a super fun deck to play.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:28
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sit on my Facebook posted:You guys keep saying "most" of the decks in modern are bad gameplay but I'm curious which specific ones you might be talking about because a quick look at the mtggoldfish meta breakdown suggests, to me at least, that there like maybe 2 decks in the top 15 that are actually bad and unfun: bogles and storm. I'll add Tron to the list I guess, although I've never really been bothered by Tron personally, I know a lot of people don't like it. If poo poo happens before I can possibly find or have an answer to it as a fair deck I find that objectionable. If my only outs to a turn 3 Karn are a lucky Thoughtseize or a Counterspell that is a lovely state of play.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:32
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Competitive arena players seem to take slow play to a whole new level. Was able to do all the prep work and finish cooking a 10 egg breakfast casserole while playing 1 game of BO3 competitive draft this morning. I think my opponent was taking the current board state and factoring all possibilities during every single turn or something.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:36
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mcmagic posted:It's going to be pretty funny if this stupid deck that no one knows how to play against and only 1 guy can win with ends up getting Mox Opal banned. I really hope UW control makes a comeback cause thusfar i'm 4-0 against this deck in competitive on MTGO. Stony Silence and RIP is pretty much the game against this deck and I can get that online before they can get their KCI or trawler online.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:38
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Like I said I enjoy Modern but even I realize that the Turn 3-4 kills from a lot of decks means that stumbling even once on a land drop or simply not having the exact right card at the exact right moment can lead to a lot of non-games. Tbh I enjoyed modern more when Twin was the best deck because even though Twin met the criteria I just described it also demanded that every single other deck in the format have some meaningful way to interact with other deck's gameplans. Now its kind of devolved into two decks goldfishing at each other instead of really engaging with their opponent.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:41
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AnEdgelord posted:Eh? If we are going to start talking about decks with bad play experience that pretty much comprises the entire tier 1 of Modern aside from poo poo like Jeskai, Mardu Pyromancer and Jund. What if it's actually all of modern??? AnEdgelord posted:Like I said I enjoy Modern but even I realize that the Turn 3-4 kills from a lot of decks means that stumbling even once on a land drop or simply not having the exact right card at the exact right moment can lead to a lot of non-games. Tbh I enjoyed modern more when Twin was the best deck because even though Twin met the criteria I just described it also demanded that every single other deck in the format have some meaningful way to interact with other deck's gameplans. Now its kind of devolved into two decks goldfishing at each other instead of really engaging with their opponent. You've got it exactly right. Unban Pod.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:44
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neonbregna posted:Does arena include any stat tracking or is this another case of WOTC being bad at computers? There's nothing of the sort and probably never will be, because the vast majority of players don't like to be confronted with their negative/stark average numbers.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:57
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Jeff Menges will be at the Cat Draft, and he offered to do a token for the event. I asked him if he could do a spin on Black Knight, but a little happier and with cats. He'll be selling them for the price of a $1 donation to the Long Island Feline Adoption Center.
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Jun 17, 2018 17:05
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LifeLynx posted:Jeff Menges will be at the Cat Draft, and he offered to do a token for the event. I asked him if he could do a spin on Black Knight, but a little happier and with cats. He'll be selling them for the price of a $1 donation to the Long Island Feline Adoption Center. Should have had him do the Grizzly Bears art but with cats.
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Jun 17, 2018 17:07
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Entropic posted:You have a bunch of cards in there that aren’t standard legal. Thanks for the heads up. I'll have a look at what I have that's actually legal. With things getting reprinted from older sets I'll have a look if I have enough cards that are legal and vaguely coherent enough to make a deck. My local place does rares in after a draft and winner gets first pick, is that not the usual way of doing it? I've only done the one draft (why I have so few standard cards) and it was 9 euros. Killed a couple hours, got to play magic for the first time in years and tried drafting for the first time ever. Got the teferi guy out of it too!
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Jun 17, 2018 17:15
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AnEdgelord posted:Like I said I enjoy Modern but even I realize that the Turn 3-4 kills from a lot of decks means that stumbling even once on a land drop or simply not having the exact right card at the exact right moment can lead to a lot of non-games. Tbh I enjoyed modern more when Twin was the best deck because even though Twin met the criteria I just described it also demanded that every single other deck in the format have some meaningful way to interact with other deck's gameplans. Now its kind of devolved into two decks goldfishing at each other instead of really engaging with their opponent. Actually that isn't why Modern sucks... Standard is MUCH more the "you miss and land drop and you just die" format right now. Modern sucks because it's too much of a rock paper scissors format.
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Jun 17, 2018 17:17
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MrBling posted:Should have had him do the Grizzly Bears art but with cats. There's no Bear token in Dominaria or I would have!
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ilmucche posted:Thanks for the heads up. I'll have a look at what I have that's actually legal. With things getting reprinted from older sets I'll have a look if I have enough cards that are legal and vaguely coherent enough to make a deck. My local place does rares in after a draft and winner gets first pick, is that not the usual way of doing it? I've only done the one draft (why I have so few standard cards) and it was 9 euros. Killed a couple hours, got to play magic for the first time in years and tried drafting for the first time ever. Got the teferi guy out of it too! find another lgs imo e: gently caress any store that does rare redrafting, don't give them your money for cards they say you don't get to keep
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Jun 17, 2018 17:29
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rare redraft is one of two ways of doing a draft and boy do people have opinions about it. for 9€ it's fine, don't worry about it
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Jun 17, 2018 17:31
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not gonna lie, Rich Hagon's little Black Lotus bit was not bad
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Jun 17, 2018 17:31
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Soul Glo posted:find another lgs imo 15 years ago I only really knew Redrafting and thought other stores doing it the normal way was kind of dumb, because people would just rare-pick. It also means that 1st place is pretty much guaranteed to be walking away with a good card. I still kind of hold this sentiment, but the headache of doing redraft with people who you aren't familiar is a headache. Back then magic communities were much tighter so there were never any problems.
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Jun 17, 2018 17:56
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DangerDongs posted:15 years ago I only really knew Redrafting and thought other stores doing it the normal way was kind of dumb, because people would just rare-pick. It also means that 1st place is pretty much guaranteed to be walking away with a good card. I knew none of these guys, and one of them took it super seriously. Got pissed when I beat him and left because he wouldn't get first pick for the expensive card. Other people were pretty chill though, I don't think any of us really knew what the cards were worth except the planeswalker so it was a relaxed redraft at the end.
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Jun 17, 2018 18:15
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GoutPatrol posted:If they wanted to kill several birds with one stone, just get rid of Modern's best cantrip: Ancient Stirrings. My man.
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Jun 17, 2018 18:27
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print aether vial in standard
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Jun 17, 2018 19:12
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Heck, guys, quick, what's the play here??
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Jun 17, 2018 19:20
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Be petty. Pop Bolas' ult.
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Jun 17, 2018 19:23
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Modern is the best for at at the moment, but making it better would be easy. Unban the following Pod Twin Ponder Preordain Punishing fire Green sun's zenith Stoneforge mystic Print the following in standard Force of will Daze Engineered plague back to basics Stifle Wasteland Price of progress
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Jun 17, 2018 19:27
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Modern is the best for at at the moment, but making it better would be easy. Add counterspell and this is unironically correct.
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Jun 17, 2018 19:30
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AnEdgelord posted:Add counterspell and this is unironically correct. I can get with that.
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Jun 17, 2018 19:31
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Owlbear Camus posted:Heck, guys, quick, what's the play here?? Wait 30 min to get more replies then do the chosen thread consensus.
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Jun 17, 2018 19:32
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click random buttons, since I'm pretty sure that's a winning line
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Jun 17, 2018 19:33
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Elyv posted:click random buttons, since I'm pretty sure that's a winning line *Teferi explodes*
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What other cards are there that tap an artifact for free or as a mana-less cost? E.g.; Clock of Omens
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