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Moriatti
Apr 21, 2014

Pops Mgee posted:

Anyone including Shantae.

EDIT: gently caress, top of the page.

I'd rather have Shantae then K. Rule, prove me wrong?

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Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Yeah, Shantae is cute and relevant. K. Rool and Waluigi can stay trophies, assist or otherwise, let the cuties be playable.

Of the Indie Characters, #1 Cutie Shovel Knight needs to join the battle first of course, but Shantae can be second.

EDIT:

TheLoneStar posted:

I suppose after having played Budokai Tenkaichi 3, 65 doesn't seem like an offensively large amount to me. I certainly wouldn't mind another ten more or so.
Yeah Budokai had a massive roster, but how many of them were balanced/reasonably usable? I remember that game fondly for the story mode and the novelty of the special moves but not the core gameplay.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

If this was the complete roster I would not be happy with it tbh.

I kinda hate most of the oldcomers and think it was a waste to bring most of them back. Like everything else sounds pretty danged good but man, I like playing smash for the new characters. Only having 2 would just kill a lot of my interest. (I mean, I'd still get it to play with friends but ehh)

Also I think if they had another 3rd party they would of announced it at E3 or the actual game announcement. Just me tho on that front.

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true

Moriatti posted:

So I think the roster is complete. If so, how satisfied would you guys be?

There is no way this is the completed roster. Could you imagine the headlines? "New Smash Brothers Game Retails for $80, Has Only Two New Characters."

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

If this was the complete roster I would not be happy with it tbh.

I kinda hate most of the oldcomers and think it was a waste to bring most of them back. Like everything else sounds pretty danged good but man, I like playing smash for the new characters. Only having 2 would just kill a lot of my interest. (I mean, I'd still get it to play with friends but ehh)

Also I think if they had another 3rd party they would of announced it at E3 or the actual game announcement. Just me tho on that front.

Learning an old character you hadn't given a second thought to before is like finding a new character all over again! Especially if something clicks and it turns out you really like how they play! There is so much to learn and master about everyone, there are so many possibilities you can put so much time into exploring, already there at your fingertips......

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

Maple Leaf posted:

"New Smash Brothers Game Retails for $80"

are these canada bux

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Maple Leaf posted:

"New Smash Brothers Game Retails for $80

Did they announce a price hike? Good thing I locked in my $59.99 order

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Maple Leaf posted:

There is no way this is the completed roster. Could you imagine the headlines? "New Smash Brothers Game Retails for $80, Has Only Two New Characters."

That would be an awful headline though. Of course only 3 (Hi I'm Daisy) are completely new, but there's a ton of old characters returning that have been reworked no doubt, some of which haven't been seen since Melee, 17 years ago. That's a big deal, and that's apart from the returning stages and gameplay overhaul. According to Wikipedia, Smash 4 finished with 58 characters and Smash Ult is starting at 68 (presumably separating the Mii's and echoes, which I consider fair) so that's 10 more characters before any new announcements or DLC. I'm not saying people can't be disappointed if this is the finished roster, and it definitely isn't with us still 6 months out, but saying it's not enough as is is being a little greedy IMO.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

It's not that I want everything ontop of what we got now. I just don't see why we need 3 links that all have close to the same exact moves just with slightly different properties. A pikachu that hurts itself doing literally anything or 3 marths.

Like of the oldcomers returning the only wants that I'm actually cool with off the top of my head are Snake, Ice Climbers and Wolf because they offer their own unique play styles. Everything else could of remained in the abyss and I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep. (And if I'm being totally honest I'm only okay with wolf because I know a handful of people were desperate for his playstyle even if he was a semi clone)

I'd probably be a lot lighter on Smash if Sakurai just left out the "hope you aren't expecting that many new guys" because it is cool they got everyone in there. I just don't care about that though. Also I *dislike* that Ridley got in and I don't think he fits at all art style wise

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true

Raserys posted:

are these canada bux

These are Canadabux, yes. And that price is before tax.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

That would be an awful headline though.

One, it would still be correct if they release the game and only the announced roster is in it, and two, welcome to 2018, where headlines are designed to get your clicks no matter the cost.

I got Ridley, so I'm happy, but I'd still like to see more than just Ridley and Inkling making the cut.

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


It's time. Put that Geno in Smash

Ms. Unsmiley
Feb 13, 2012

everyone is here

TheLoneStar
Feb 9, 2017

Rich Uncle Chet posted:

It's time. Put that Geno in Smash
At this point, with Square playing ball with Cloud, there's literally no excuse not to have him. Didn't Sakurai even want to include him in the past?

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

TheLoneStar posted:

At this point, with Square playing ball with Cloud, there's literally no excuse not to have him. Didn't Sakurai even want to include him in the past?

He got into 4 as a Mii costume (k. rool did too) so he's practically just a step away from being in the game proper. its a possibility this time, like, for real and actual

he would probably be the biggest long-term fan request who hasn't gotten in yet. ridley has opened the door to infinite possibilities

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Think this might finally push me into buying a Switch.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Doctor Reynolds posted:

Think this might finally push me into buying a Switch.

Get one. You’ll also get the bonus of having a bunch of other great games to get on it.

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Geno ... is lame.

Monitor
Dec 28, 2010

codenameFANGIO posted:

Geno ... is lame.

you're right, the cool character is the star warrior ♡♪!?

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
btw I dissed the idea of patches instead of solaire earlier but solaire's final smash would have to be something boring like sunlight spear while patches' final smash would be luring someone off the stage edge with promises of treasure and that would be really really good

bef
Mar 2, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

It's not that I want everything ontop of what we got now. I just don't see why we need 3 links that all have close to the same exact moves just with slightly different properties. A pikachu that hurts itself doing literally anything or 3 marths.

Like of the oldcomers returning the only wants that I'm actually cool with off the top of my head are Snake, Ice Climbers and Wolf because they offer their own unique play styles. Everything else could of remained in the abyss and I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep. (And if I'm being totally honest I'm only okay with wolf because I know a handful of people were desperate for his playstyle even if he was a semi clone)

I'd probably be a lot lighter on Smash if Sakurai just left out the "hope you aren't expecting that many new guys" because it is cool they got everyone in there. I just don't care about that though. Also I *dislike* that Ridley got in and I don't think he fits at all art style wise

https://youtu.be/O0TQbRNmYus

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!
Geno or something completely off the wall like adding Miyamoto or something like that are the only characters that could make me more hyped.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



Add Oboro and Mòrag

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
This is all leading to the addition of Waluigi in the roster.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`
Is bowser a top or a bottom

E: put katamari in smash

QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Jun 18, 2018

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Realistically, if any further characters are added and Sakurai didn't just blow the entire load at once, I'd say there's probably only gonna be one or two more, not counting any DLC stuff that happens.

Also realistically, Sakurai doesn't change his design documents to add or remove new characters after they're written, so as to avoid loving up the budget and workload. The deluge in Fire Emblem stuff in Smash 4, for example, was due to FE Awakening taking off right as the initial designs were being written up.

So, if you want to get super-educated with your guesses, take a step back and try and think of what was popular around February 2016, when Smash 4 DLC development ended...

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true

The Kins posted:

So, if you want to get super-educated with your guesses, take a step back and try and think of what was popular around February 2016, when Smash 4 DLC development ended...

... XCOM 2?

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

rocket league and undertale both came out in 2015, and were still popular in early 2016

papyrus driving a car confirmed for smash

Spectral Debt
Jan 23, 2004
9999 sucka
Last character reveal should be a playable Sakurai and his final smash would be Overtime where he can keep fighting after the time runs out and even after all the other fighters have already left the stage to be with their families.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
Sakurai programmed the world's first AI, and it's just Literally Himself so he can program the game while he's in the game

even after his mortal body gives in

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
Is there some super set in stone reason they can't add banjo

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Gay Horney posted:

Is there some super set in stone reason they can't add banjo

Microsoft owns Banjo. It would be cool and Microsoft said they’re cool with it but I doubt Nintendo cares that much to deal with the mess of getting him in.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

Don't think in terms of who's allowed, because basically any character ever is allowed. Instead, think in terms of who's next in line.

Is Banjo allowed? Sure. Is Banjo next? No.

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006

~As for dreams, she has enough and more to spare~
banjo is next

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

we've been over this - the next character is Isaac from noted good game Golden Sun

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
it's actually incredibly hosed up that we don't have so much as a Kazooie assist trophy

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

theres been lots and lots of rumors that microsoft signed off on some Smash Bros content, part of which will be in the base game and part of which will be DLC. we dont know if thats legit or not yet

but if its true banjo may have gotten in, and probably some kind of minecraft level or something

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010


It would be so loving weird to see the Minecraft guy, probably the lowest effort character ever made, in Smash, a series known for insane levels of polish in just about everything.

I don't think even Sakurai could make it work, unless he's a joke character that only has one attack and the same half-assed animations as his home game.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
you know if they're adding Banjo and Kazooie we're not getting the Banjo and Kazooie we love, right


they're adding this

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true
Steve? won't make it in as a playable character, but a Creeper will make it in as an assist trophy.

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SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



We’d get the classic BK I think if it happened. Didn’t Sakurai threaten to not include Pac-Man if he was forced to use the Ghostly Adventures design by Namco?:lol:

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