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FunkyAl posted:remember when illustrators drew magazine ads and childrens books It's not as easy to get into "the industry" anymore, where the "the industry" refers to illustration, design, comics, etc. Print isn't as in demand as it once was and creative work has become really exploitative and difficult to live off of, and what few jobs remain fill up really quickly. It was a daunting nightmare prospect when I graduated from college in 2007 (brb crumbling to dust and blowing away in the wind), I can't imagine it's much better now. Also if the Olde Ancestral Illustrators of the Past had the internet they would do the same kind of poo poo. Artists are fuckin weird.
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A Sometimes Food posted:I forget are cat people a thing in SGR? Have we seen eyes like Tawny's before on people? I'm wondering if this is new weirdness or a callback. I'm just going to guess he's wearing novelty contact lenses.  The Tackleford universe isn't shy on weirdness and supernatural stuff, but come on, it's the Guy Fieri of Unboxing we're talking about, everything about him has to be completely fake.
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I didn't notice that, although I wouldn't be too surprised if Youtube unboxers turned out to be reptilian creatures. That Brexit tattoo though.
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Synthbuttrange posted:it may be weird and kinda barfy but at least it's not your underaged characters. Domestic cats have an average life expectancy of 16 years
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Tollymain posted:i suspect part of it is that the number of illustrators out there is a good ways larger than the number of people the respectable market can support :v Definitely true, there's like eight million colleges and three jobs Fortis posted:It's not as easy to get into "the industry" anymore, where the "the industry" refers to illustration, design, comics, etc. Print isn't as in demand as it once was and creative work has become really exploitative and difficult to live off of, and what few jobs remain fill up really quickly. It was a daunting nightmare prospect when I graduated from college in 2007 (brb crumbling to dust and blowing away in the wind), I can't imagine it's much better now. Death of print and exploitative industry practices are a big piece of it, but i think even they are a symptom of a larger cultural devaluation of the arts. Free and constant online content is a terrible model but since we all expect it or have been conditioned to expect it, we all go along with it, and all the art gets worse because only the cheapest stuff can survive. My (partly rhetorical, partly not) question is, how do you fix it? How do you get people to care about art again without it feeding into their existing addictions to "content?" Can you make it work outside the existing channels? (Do the existing channels work to begin with?) And ultimately, how much of the problem is created by collective willingness to accept the state of the industry as a reality and not do anything to change it? Ye Olde Ancestral Illustrators probably touched a higher percentage of boobies than modern porn illustrators. The bigger problem with the proliferation of online porn isn't moral so much as it is a complete detachment from and misunderstanding of their actual sexuality. this broken hill posted:there is legit a children's book illustrated (not written) by me that can only be purchased in a single bookshop in jerusalem, it features a princess marrying a giant lizard in a traditional jewish wedding mazel tov!
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FunkyAl posted:Free and constant online content is a terrible model but since we all expect it or have been conditioned to expect it, we all go along with it, and all the art gets worse because only the cheapest stuff can survive. 
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There's a system with the free online content. If you want free art, it's plentiful, but you only get what the artists want to draw for their own gratification. If you want someone to make something for you, you still gotta pay. drat near everyone takes commissions if they're not running some other enterprise (like a webcomic). With the size of the internet and the sheer quantity of talented artists, you can get pretty specific about what you want to see before you need to actually ask someone to make it for you, but that isn't going to help, say, a business looking for an original mascot or something. Of course when it comes to interacting with businesses, art suffers badly from the internship problem, where there's enough people who would do it for free in the hopes of it leading to paid work that a lot of potential clients expect to not have to pay anyone at all. And since most such artists are going solo without experience, they're easily taken advantage of. I remember seeing a form contract floating around on Tumblr, written up by a lawyer, that actually makes "doing it for exposure" binding and requires the client to direct potential business your way; I hope stuff like that can catch on.
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Tenebrais posted:I remember seeing a form contract floating around on Tumblr, written up by a lawyer, that actually makes "doing it for exposure" binding and requires the client to direct potential business your way; I hope stuff like that can catch on. I've also seen a project manager on Tumblr grumbling about artists screwing themselves over in this regard; he'll be happy to pay his artists in cash money, just as soon as they remember to send him an invoice/timesheet, after the 3rd reminder a year after they send in the piece.
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Typical Pubbie posted:post your legit children's book  (she's of a certain age)
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I started looking at new comics Kickstarters, and felt I needed to share some with everyone. Hard-On Issue One! It's about a superhero who only has superpowers when he's sporting wood. Yeah. The Developing Adventures of Golden Girl volume 2 Apparently about a pubescent girl with about 50% of her body mass in her breasts. It's funded, of course. The kickstarter creator also runs a futanari porn site and several other porn comic sites. The Mighty Utahn. I have no idea how this got 22 people to pledge $1700. Grand Strand Comic Con. Yeah, no video and your title image is a grainy gif using comic sans. Way to make a good impression. Gunfree Left-wing snowflake liberal anti-gun stereotypes in a zombie apocalypse. There's a 5-page preview on Tapas, and it's about what you'd expect. And a good one: FTL Y'all: Tales From the Age of the $200 Warp Drive IronSpike's back with another anthology!
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Pyroclastic posted:I started looking at new comics Kickstarters, and felt I needed to share some with everyone. Sweet Jesus, this one. The Twitter and Facebook pages for its "publisher" is an amazing wonderland of Dunning-Kruger madness. Also blatant intellectual property theft. Holy poo poo 
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Pyroclastic posted:I started looking at new comics Kickstarters, and felt I needed to share some with everyone. Kickstarter is the gift that keeps on giving.
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nine-gear crow posted:Sweet Jesus, this one. The Twitter and Facebook pages for its "publisher" is an amazing wonderland of Dunning-Kruger madness. Also blatant intellectual property theft. What are they stealing, so we can report it to Kickstarter.
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nine-gear crow posted:Sweet Jesus, this one. The Twitter and Facebook pages for its "publisher" is an amazing wonderland of Dunning-Kruger madness. Also blatant intellectual property theft. I didn't read the twitter before, so I just read back a year and a half, and I'm...confused. He's getting into beefs with gamergaters (who are apparently expanding to comicsgate or something), and gets called SJW and soyboy. Is Gunfree supposed to be a parody of the right-wing view of anti-gun people?
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iospace posted:What are they stealing, so we can report it to Kickstarter. Well, for starters, they're marketing a comic and video game about their lovely Deadpool rip off by... literally ripping off the Deadpool logo: https://twitter.com/TyrantComics/status/1004583705137106944 https://twitter.com/TyrantComics/status/744069819981504512 Also, why hello there Marvel Studios vanity logo rip off https://twitter.com/TyrantComics/status/995934603394285569 Pyroclastic posted:I didn't read the twitter before, so I just read back a year and a half, and I'm...confused. He's getting into beefs with gamergaters (who are apparently expanding to comicsgate or something), and gets called SJW and soyboy. Is Gunfree supposed to be a parody of the right-wing view of anti-gun people? I think they're right wing as all gently caress. From my reading, they seem to think that anti-gamergaters are the real hate group. But then again, they're so stupid and self-important I think it's just a matter of them vehemently hating everything because it's not them. Take, for example, this amazing tweet: https://twitter.com/TyrantComics/status/1005304452851666944 Indeed, which comic would you rather read? The one with an actual art style and measure of editorial quality control and an actual female writer, or the one starring a moeblob pantyshot written and drawn by three men? nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jun 19, 2018 |
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I hope this type of post is allowed in here, but I did some unsuccessful googling and wanted to ask somewhere before I forget to do so later. There was a web comic that I remember from a long time ago that was one of those that just stopped updating one day and eventually the domain lapsed and the author never came back. It was interesting in that it was animated a bit - flash I think - and I think may have even had some level of interactivity to it? It was a mystery comic with a good few chapters that ended when the mystery was solved. I think it started when the protagonist got trapped in the village/town when the bridge collapsed on his way in. I remember there were a few inhuman characters, like one of the girl characters had feelers on the top of her head or something? My memory is so vague but I definitely remember it being a thing, I just can't remember the name of it. If anyone somehow remembers what I'm talking about based on that hot mess of a description I would love to know what the name of it was!
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nine-gear crow posted:Indeed, which comic would you rather read? The one with an actual art style and measure of editorial quality control and an actual female writer, or the one starring a moeblob pantyshot written and drawn by three men? Top reply - 'you as your product is genuine' They remind me of a dumber version of Richard Meyer, who is already not so bright.
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Pyroclastic posted:I didn't read the twitter before, so I just read back a year and a half, and I'm...confused. He's getting into beefs with gamergaters (who are apparently expanding to comicsgate or something), and gets called SJW and soyboy. Is Gunfree supposed to be a parody of the right-wing view of anti-gun people? That poo poo just comes with being around Gamers, it's not like 'cuck' has a clearly defined meaning universally agreed upon among guys who make zombie preparedness a cental pillar of their lives it's just something you screech at a guy who's not you
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all cool dudes/dudettes/those who identify as neither of the above are hereby invited by me to the creative convention chat thread! cccc is one of our most underpopulated subforums but also one of the most interesting and i think we can get some good chat going, which will funnel into my nightmarish master plan that is the something awful collaborative webcomic and lead, inevitably, to our early deaths
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I instinctively hear her swapping between MC Skat Kat and Paula Abdul.
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Over at Scary Go Round, I bet you a million dollars "fit mum" was a thing specifically as a set-up for this joke.
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Roger Explosion posted:Over at Scary Go Round, I bet you a million dollars "fit mum" was a thing specifically as a set-up for this joke. Classic Mildred.
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Blasphemous corners of temporal physics, eh? When Girl Genius started to spin up to a mystery I figured it would be yet another pointless months-long digression but maybe this will actually chip away at the main plot a bit.
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So, Scary Go Round is going on hiatus with the end of this story that's being published next Friday. But it is a hiatus, not a permanent stoppage. Also I feel like the anticlimax was somehow exactly perfect.
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In the most recent Astral Aves, they gave Pippa fangs in her wanted poster. I love everything about the Black Horn every time its bureaucracy comes up.
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I’m still hoping someone will take me up on my challenge to explain how Astral Aves is supposed to work.
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Yvonmukluk posted:So, Scary Go Round is going on hiatus with the end of this story that's being published next Friday. I'm okay with this but Allison is such a workaholic that I don't foresee this hiatus lasting more than like a month. He cycles through "I have to take a break"/"I couldn't stay away, a new story begins Monday" so regularly now.
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Rand Brittain posted:I’m still hoping someone will take me up on my challenge to explain how Astral Aves is supposed to work. irl humans are weird stupid incompetent creatures and we manage more serious answer, i think its more that this story doesnt follow the people who actually keep things running
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Tollymain posted:irl humans are weird stupid incompetent creatures and we manage That's what I mean. All the main characters are so dedicated to Doing It Wrong that I'm not sure what doing it right is supposed to be.
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JethroMcB posted:Scary Go Round update: Uh-oh. Hey now, I already posted that... Oh no. OH NO. NOT THE FISHMAN!
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JethroMcB posted:Scary Go Round update: Uh-oh. 
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nine-gear crow posted:
Edit: Nvm, I could have just....clicked the image.
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SardonicTyrant posted:What's the one on the right called? Goddess Mode, for the home audience.
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