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why is the title so bad.
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May 15, 2018 23:18
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Groovelord Neato posted:why is the title so bad. Matches expectations for the game.
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May 16, 2018 00:22
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Groovelord Neato posted:why is the title so bad. "witty" titles are annoying and stupid e: of course, with me saying that, it's probably going to get changed now Node fucked around with this message at 10:14 on May 16, 2018 |
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May 16, 2018 04:32
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I think we're all just waiting for the next "This could turn it around for Vanguard." style quote to really seal the deal and give this thread the title it deserves. It's just a matter of time.
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May 16, 2018 15:30
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Freakazoid_ posted:You pretty much described DAoC's battlegrounds. Easily accessible at different levels, especially on servers with free level 20's/30's and sometimes better balanced than end-game RvR. Yeah, WAR was just a post WoW version of DAoC with somehow worse netcoding.
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May 17, 2018 18:32
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I added some stuff to the OP. Class descriptions were released for three classes https://pantheonmmo.com/classes/monk/ https://pantheonmmo.com/classes/ranger/ https://pantheonmmo.com/classes/rogue/
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Jun 7, 2018 01:18
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Sounds like Ranger isn't a pet class, which is nice. I'm not a fan of pet classes but I like the general theme of bow users. Most MMOs mix those. FFXI RNG was a blast, I wish more were like that.
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Jun 7, 2018 15:57
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keep it down up there! posted:Sounds like Ranger isn't a pet class, which is nice. I'm not a fan of pet classes but I like the general theme of bow users. Most MMOs mix those. They are pulling their influence more from EQ, in which rangers weren't pet classes either. It also took them like 3-4 expansions to get EQ1 ranger bows to be actually worthwhile as opposed to something you spend a shitload of money (level and skill appropriate fletching materials cost $$cashmoney$$ to feed) with to do substandard damage even compared to a rangers already mediocre melee damage output at the time. It's hard to underestimate how bad EQ rangers were and for how long. It was really something tragic. Here's hoping Pantheon rangers aren't total poo poo as well.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:18
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Nagging question. Will bow graphics have bow strings. Why this bothers me in mmos that have bows with no strings, I do not know, but it does.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:10
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i always felt bad for people that loved rangers because man that musta been a drag playing your entire eq career as one.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:51
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DeathSandwich posted:They are pulling their influence more from EQ, in which rangers weren't pet classes either. The "rangers so bad lol" stuff carried on into EQ2 as well, especially since they were regularly on the nerf end of a patch cycle. When it came to raiding no one wanted them. When I left the game they were (finally) pretty solid, but had languished for years as the Assassin's retarded cousin.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:52
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How hard is it to go "They are just spell casters with arrow spells" or some such? I mean really, it's not a complicated process. What was so relentless poo poo about them? e: I mean WoW Hunters were pretty useless for a little bit, but it didn't take them *that* long to approach relevance. I've heard from a few people that EQ Rangers were just terrible forever. Mulva fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Jun 9, 2018 00:35
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hybrids in everquest were 2/3 warrior and 1/3 the respective caster (paladin 1/3 cleric, shadow knight 1/3 necro, ranger 1/3 druid). the problem was rangers were more like 1/3 warrior 1/3 druid 1/3 poo poo. don't get why they didn't just make them archers with some druid spells - if i was a guy who liked playing rangers that's what i'd want to do. especially for a game that revolved around grouping. i think arrows only crit on non-rooted stationary targets too which is insane.
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Jun 9, 2018 02:34
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I really don't want this game to suck but my heart still tells me it will. Is there anything yet about an open beta though?
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Jun 9, 2018 05:32
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Ffxi Rangers were pretty baller during the 2005-2008 Era.
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Jun 9, 2018 06:31
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EQ rangers were dog poo poo until luclin, then they were just a little stinky cat turd, then their arrow DPS was up to par for like 1/2 an expansion, then their melee DPS surpassed arrow DPS again and they never touched their bows again. Thank you for listening to bad EQ history.
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Jun 9, 2018 06:56
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I said come in! posted:I really don't want this game to suck but my heart still tells me it will. Is there anything yet about an open beta though? They're estimating a 2020 release I think, so maybe mid 2019 or later. It's all speculation at this point.
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Jun 9, 2018 16:05
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The class descriptions sound cool and pretty unique from each other so far. I like the various utility abilities each bring to the table. Ranger sounds especially dope. You can summon a controllable ferret or bird to scout ahead, use a fire arrow as a torch in a dungeon, place an alert arrow to let you know a patrol is coming...I love stuff like that. It almost sounds like playing one of the Thief games.
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Jun 9, 2018 16:38
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I bet the alert arrow will be useless just like sentinel was useless in EQ
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Jun 9, 2018 17:47
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MF_James posted:I bet the alert arrow will be useless just like sentinel was useless in EQ I love bad useless skills I once started an enchanter in EQ just for minor illusion
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Jun 9, 2018 23:11
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MF_James posted:I bet the alert arrow will be useless just like sentinel was useless in EQ it was very useful for crashing everyone's computers when you used it near masses of players.
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Jun 10, 2018 12:23
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I added the tank class info that was just released. Dire Lord, Paladin and Warrior info is now in the OP. Also: http://massivelyop.com/2018/06/14/pantheon-gets-ready-for-pre-alpha-3-and-throws-all-of-its-features-into-a-single-zone/ quote:The third pre-alpha build (which will include four zones and a level cap of 40) is on the way for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, and the Visionary Realms team has a lot to talk about as it shares a trio of new classes.
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Jun 16, 2018 19:02
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I'll have not one but two mana bars as a Paladin I have to watch over? Boycotting this game.
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Jun 17, 2018 00:38
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"turned a Composer into a Creative Director and Lead Game Designer." Yeah, that fills me with confidence.
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Jun 17, 2018 01:23
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Node posted:I'll have not one but two mana bars as a Paladin I have to watch over? Boycotting this game. it sounds cool, as a paladin guy, to me. Pigbottom posted:"turned a Composer into a Creative Director and Lead Game Designer." anyone can be a game designer, it doesn't really take any qualifications.
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Jun 17, 2018 14:45
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Groovelord Neato posted:it sounds cool, as a paladin guy, to me. But it does take experience, especially for something as complex as an mmo. If the guy went from composer to game design in one jump how much experience do you think he had? I'm obsessed with games and I played everything I could put my hands on since I was a kid. I think I know a lot about games, but that doesn't make me qualified to design an mmo. Of course, I might be wrong and the guy may be a genius, but excuse me if I don't trust it until I see it.
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Jun 17, 2018 15:04
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blizzard hired the dude who ran their raiding guild in eq to do dungeon design for wow.
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Jun 17, 2018 15:26
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Groovelord Neato posted:blizzard hired the dude who ran their raiding guild in eq to do dungeon design for wow. Blizzard also has a bazillion employees, so its easier to do something like this. How many people are actually working on Pantheon?
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Jun 17, 2018 16:28
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lol i didn't even realize i was talking about jeff kaplan.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:37
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol i didn't even realize i was talking about jeff kaplan. Wasn't that dude's EQ name something like "Tigole Biddies"?
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Jun 17, 2018 16:47
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joshtothemaxx posted:Wasn't that dude's EQ name something like "Tigole Biddies"? Yes. He went by Tigule while working on WoW. Furor changed his to Foror.
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Jun 17, 2018 16:52
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Groovelord Neato posted:blizzard hired the dude who ran their raiding guild in eq to do dungeon design for wow. hey now, that guy also went on to be the lead designer of a billion-dollar team shooter franchise
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Jun 17, 2018 19:24
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Groovelord Neato posted:anyone can be a game designer, it doesn't really take any qualifications. quick reminder that ghostcrawler, hailed by a lot of idiots as the best wow designer ever, was a marine biologist
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Jun 17, 2018 20:08
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Ad by Khad posted:quick reminder that ghostcrawler, hailed by a lot of idiots as the best wow designer ever, was a marine biologist Feels like the days of being able to freely switch careers are over though
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Jun 17, 2018 20:55
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There have been times in MMO design history where things seemed a bit incestual, but probably because the market for them were kinda small. And then kickstarters happened and grandma and grandpa wanted kids again.
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Jun 17, 2018 22:08
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Verbose posted:Feels like the days of being able to freely switch careers are over though How so?
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Jun 17, 2018 22:09
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joshtothemaxx posted:Blizzard also has a bazillion employees, so its easier to do something like this. How many people are actually working on Pantheon? Not many people on the pay roll. The last I saw anything about hiring, Visionary Realms was asking people to volunteer their time to the game and work for free.
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Jun 18, 2018 13:52
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Verbose posted:Feels like the days of being able to freely switch careers are over though I don't agree. Eve Online for years has hired people based on their reddit posts. Ocean Quigley got to be the head of an entire Simcity project because he was some random artist that had been with the company forever. Lots of developers who worked on that abysmal tire fire Wildstar were rewarded by being picked up by Blizzard. Even on topic in this very thread, Pantheon is taking volunteers. You could experience a rewarding career change right now.
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Jun 18, 2018 15:37
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Ad by Khad posted:I don't agree. Eve Online for years has hired people based on their reddit posts. Ocean Quigley got to be the head of an entire Simcity project because he was some random artist that had been with the company forever. Lots of developers who worked on that abysmal tire fire Wildstar were rewarded by being picked up by Blizzard. You're not really switching careers going from one dev studio to another. I think the quote meant it's not as easy to go from playing video games to designing one like tigole did.
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joshtothemaxx posted:Wasn't that dude's EQ name something like "Tigole Biddies"? Yeah, he’s also the guy that made a lengthy blogpost about how his guild missed a world first EQ raid boss kill because he accidentally sliced his sack open shaving in the shower.
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