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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Reminder: DR was using his Logic Brain to explain how ICE/CBP doesn't interfere with asylum seekers and how separating kids from their parents was the law. When it was pointed out with that he was making that poo poo up, he ignored those facts and resorted to "Dems are bad too!"

Just say you love the policy, if you love the policy. Own that poo poo.

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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
I don't use this word often.

DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is a bitch and I hope this clip gets put on every evening newscast.

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1008824853342769153

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


My brain exploded when she said that opening the borders would benefit the people smugglers.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





It's nice to see really loving angry reporters having a go at someone who is stumbling all over themselves.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


"The smugglers and drug dealers are using the children as pawns :downs:"

:fuckoff:

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1008822902794407936

Stop being mean to those running our concentration camps

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Huckabee: the real problem is people keep criticizing the president over this issue

:fuckoff:

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

mlmp08 posted:

Nah. He is either too stupid and uninformed to know the difference between law and policy or is intentionally "explaining" it incorrectly to give cover for the family separation policy.

So either he should be roundly mocked for ignorance or he should shut the gently caress up, because deliberately misleading people is not explaining things.

I actually know (or knew) someone with the same view of the law as DR, and if he's anything like the guy I knew, he thinks the law is a kind of unquestionable, sacrosanct object of mathematical-Platonic Perfection, which we mere mortals must only obey. The actual consequences of laws are irrelevant and should never be considered.

Which isn't any less stupid, of course.

(This is the same guy who decided to cut off contact with me for my apparently anti-Semitic suggestion that Israel should stop killing Palestinians all the time.)

Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jun 18, 2018

Wrong Theory
Aug 27, 2005

Satellite from days of old, lead me to your access code

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1008822902794407936

Stop being mean to those running our concentration camps

Wait, so what color ribbon does DHS get?

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Iain posted:

Wait, so what color ribbon does DHS get?
Gonna guess piss yellow
https://twitter.com/RheaButcher/status/1008020349693280256

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


When the black guy says it it’s probably not suppose to be taken that way. When the guy named after confederate generals and didn’t join the KKK because they smoked weed it’s probably intentional

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

I wonder if firefighters, whose job specifically is to save lives and property, feel about being grouped with people whose jobs are the opposite.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

Stultus Maximus posted:

I wonder if firefighters, whose job specifically is to save lives and property, feel about being grouped with people whose jobs are the opposite.

You’ve never met a firefighter eh

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Stultus Maximus posted:

I wonder if firefighters, whose job specifically is to save lives and property, feel about being grouped with people whose jobs are the opposite.

My old roommate is a Boston firefighter. About 90% of his co-workers i met are veterans like him. He was the only non CHUD I met.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Why are they so big on defacing the flag?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
:siren: GOOD NEWS STORY :siren:

Kris Kobach got his law and his rear end kicked in court today.

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=99605

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/fish-kobach-decision.pdf

https://twitter.com/srl/status/1008832085468090370

Kobach sucked SO HARD in the trial that the judge held him in contempt during the trial (a fine, paid), then gave him HOMEWORK.

I think you have to gently caress up pretty bad for the judge to rule against you AND give you homework.

quote:

The disclosure violations set forth above document a pattern and practice by Defendant [Kobach] of flaunting disclosure and discovery rules that are designed to prevent prejudice and surprise at trial. The Court ruled on each disclosure issue as it arose, but given the repeated instances involved, and the fact that Defendant resisted the Court’s rulings by continuing to try to introduce such evidence after exclusion, the Court finds that further sanctions are appropriate under Rule 37(c)(1), which permits, in addition to exclusion of the evidence, “other appropriate sanctions.” It is not clear to the Court whether Defendant repeatedly failed to meet his disclosure obligations intentionally or due to his unfamiliarity with the federal rules. Therefore, the Court finds that an additional sanction is appropriate in the form of Continuing Legal Education. Defendant chose to represent his own office in this matter, and as such, had a duty to familiarize himself with the governing rules of procedure, and to ensure as the lead attorney on this case that his discovery obligations were satisfied despite his many duties as a busy public servant. The Court therefore imposes a CLE requirement of 6 hours for the 2018-2019 reporting year in addition to any other CLE education required by his law license. These 6 additional hours must pertain to federal or Kansas civil rules of procedure or evidence. Defendant shall file a certification with this Court before the end of the reporting period on June 30, 2019, certifying that this CLE requirement has been met.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Defendant shall attend 6 hours in addition to any other CLE education required by his law license for the 2018-2019 reporting year. The additional CLE must pertain to federal or Kansas civil rules of procedure or evidence. Defendant shall file a certification with this Court before the end of the reporting period on June 30, 2019, certifying that this CLE requirement has been met. This sanction is imposed under Fed. R. Civ. P. 37(c)(1) for the disclosure violations identified in this Order under Rule 26(a) and (e).

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

facialimpediment posted:

:siren: GOOD NEWS STORY :siren:

Kris Kobach got his law and his rear end kicked in court today.

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=99605

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/fish-kobach-decision.pdf

https://twitter.com/srl/status/1008832085468090370

Kobach sucked SO HARD in the trial that the judge held him in contempt during the trial (a fine, paid), then gave him HOMEWORK.

I think you have to gently caress up pretty bad for the judge to rule against you AND give you homework.

lol, nice.

Also, even the Mooch knows how dumb this is. That's how stupid or racist or evil you have to be to support this.

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1008789583977504768

Shaddak
Nov 13, 2011

Israel just charged one it's ex-ministers with spying for Iran.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-44520850

This is a man who'd previously been jailed for smuggling drugs, and forging a diplomatic passport.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

pantslesswithwolves posted:

ProPublica has a link to an audio recording made inside of a CBP facility where you can hear children crying. In response, a CBP agent jokes “we got an orchestra here!”

I’m not linking it because it’s one of the worst things I’ve heard, and I had to watch Islamic State propaganda videos at my previous job.

Seriously, gently caress ICE, gently caress CBP, and if you try to rationalize or defend this, then gently caress you too.

This poo poo will push me to violence. I live in a border city. gently caress this administration and those who defend it.

I'm going to see if there are any protests forming in my area in the next few days about this. I'm not gonna go stupid, but I'll definitely make it known they can smdftb.

The time for talking is done. Walk your talk, or get the gently caress out of the way.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


CommieGIR posted:

No Liberal is saying "Just open the borders", they are saying "Yes, they broke the law, but going for a repeat of the Japanese Internment (one of our greatest national shames) is hardly going to make the law more in the right.

I am what some people call liberal and I don't think there is a net utilitarian argument for borders.

Yes, there are dozens of us, but I assume current events like these help some people see the wisdom of our position.

MA-Horus posted:

Congratulations guys, you're replicating the most shameful event in Canadian History and bringing it into the 21st century. That's impressive.

(We used to strip native children away from their parents and put them in "residential schools" which were run by the Catholic Church in which the children were brought up to despise their own heritage and were abused on the regular)

The US did this to at least some tribes. A friend of mine wrote a book on the Havasupai, mostly about their fight to get back their land in the grand canyon, but mentioning how most of a generation of kids was purposefully sent to schools scattered across the country in an attempt to genocide the tribe without directly killing anyone. And of course they lost track of all of them, that was the point!

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

I actually know (or knew) someone with the same view of the law as DR, and if he's anything like the guy I knew, he thinks the law is a kind of unquestionable, sacrosanct object of mathematical-Platonic Perfection, which we mere mortals must only obey. The actual consequences of laws are irrelevant and should never be considered.

It's a safe position for people too busy, uninformed, or just plain dumb to weigh real-word consequences and form their own moral framework.

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007

This but unironically

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
:d2a:

bengy81
May 8, 2010
XXXtentacion was killed today.

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2018/06/xxxtentacion-dead-at-20/

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


Dude had like 17 pending charges over kidnapping and strangling his pregnant girlfriend, real hard for me to care.

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/09/xxxtentacion-testimony-details-domestic-battery/

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Never heard of him.

Can't say I'm a fan of the genre anyhow.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!


I like one song by him, but he sounds like a real piece of poo poo otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGcwEv7838

bengy81
May 8, 2010
He was a pretty popular SoundCloud rapper, and he was having a big year with his (first?) commercially released album. He had some serious charges against him for DV that definitely cast a shadow over how talented he was, as being a human shaped piece of poo poo tends to do.
I still think it’s unfortunate that he got gunned down. At least nobody else was hurt though.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!



lmao

Caufman
May 7, 2007
Murder sucks, but some homicides don't seem to add up to the full moral definition of murder. If you live an outlaw life and get gunned down by a fellow outlaw, it's still a homicide and fits the crime of 1st degree murder, but you're no bystander, either.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Caufman posted:

Murder sucks, but some homicides don't seem to add up to the full moral definition of murder. If you live an outlaw life and get gunned down by a fellow outlaw, it's still a homicide and fits the crime of 1st degree murder, but you're no bystander, either.

Hell I'd go so far as to say he was no angel.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
I regret everything :(

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

If literally my entire family wasn't retired cops I would so repost this everywhere.

They were all really decent cops and don't do the whole full fascism "it's a war out there!!!" much. Except one. The Bible belt did weird things to one.

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014

the good news is that all the talk of Intel/Cyber/Space separating and forming their own branch is reaching the Oval Office.

bad news is our president is a loving retard and cannot even conceptualize the whys and hows of it all.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I'm starting to think this Sessions guy might suck?

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1008735290100518913

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

mlmp08 posted:

lol, nice.

Also, even the Mooch knows how dumb this is. That's how stupid or racist or evil you have to be to support this.

https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1008789583977504768

Mooch probably hates miller because he's bannon on chemo doing a keanu reeves impression

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



https://twitter.com/business/status/1008856673811824645?s=21

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

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bengy81
May 8, 2010
Man, trade wars are so lame...
How long til we get hyperinflation and breadlines?

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

:chaostrump::trumppop::trumpfap:

How do I economy yurrr

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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Doc Hawkins posted:

It's a safe position for people too busy, uninformed, or just plain dumb to weigh real-word consequences and form their own moral framework.

Mattis had a really good commencement speech at Kings Point on leadership.

Sometimes it's OK to take such a position. This is one of those times when it absolutely isnt, actively doing so is a cowards copout.

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