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golden bubble posted:Sentinels of the Multiverse can be fun, but it's an extremely fiddly board game, with lots of +1, +2, -1 modifiers everywhere. Also, you need to move to the advanced character decks as fast as possible. The simplistic character decks basically play themselves. Most of those players stuck with simply superheroes spent most of the game on their phones, and it didn't hold up the game because those decks were just that auto-pilot. Big reason why I think the Steam version is the way to go with that one.
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You know what else I'm tired of? Long skill list! I'm tired of having to memorize new skills every game and getting confused on which one to use and getting judged by my players for not knowing it. I'm tired of setting difficulties for tasks and having players question if that's right or fight me on it. I'm tired of players not just accepting failure and letting me fail them forward but instead fighting me all the way because they can't have the characters lose in any such fashion. I'm tired of people just interrupting me while I'm talking. I'm tired of having to strain together stories from the random happenstance of the game. Of course the players help you out, but that can get discordant and it's very hard to make it satisfying and you always end up just running out of ideas and it always becomes a jumbled mess. I'm so loving done making NPC's. I hate building them in the rules for most games and I hate having to make a new personality and getting mocked because I don't have good vocal range or having to work around and if I didn't plan enough about it or if I just had to make the NPC on the spot. Man, am I done.
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Have you considered a game that isn't Dungeons and Dragons
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Covok posted:You know what else I'm tired of? Long skill list! I'm tired of having to memorize new skills every game and getting confused on which one to use and getting judged by my players for not knowing it. I'm tired of setting difficulties for tasks and having players question if that's right or fight me on it. I'm tired of players not just accepting failure and letting me fail them forward but instead fighting me all the way because they can't have the characters lose in any such fashion. I'm tired of people just interrupting me while I'm talking.
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Yawgmoth posted:sounds like your players suck, maybe tell them to shut up once in a while fool_of_sound posted:Have you considered a game that isn't Dungeons and Dragons I'm not just talking about Dungeons & Dragons. I've been talkin about all the games I've played over the last few years, since I started gaming in 2011. That's running the gauntlet. I've played everything from powered by the apocalypse to fate to Star Wars Fantasy Flight two masks to Urban Shadows to exalted 3rd Edition to Dungeons & Dragons 4th edition to Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition to Tenra Bansho Zero to Marvel Heroic roleplaying to Chuubos to Legends of the Five Rings 4th edition to Burning Wheel to Dungeon Crawl classics to World Wide Wrestling to 13th Age to mutants and masterminds to Dragon Age to better angels to Delta green to Legend of the elements to fellowship tp dungeon world to even more games I don't care to list. Yes, since I started in 2011, I've run campaigns that usually lasts around six months in all those games. In college I often ran three to four games at the same time. I've played a lot. And it's always with a different group because my schedule changes and I recruit off the internet. Sometimes players are loving awesome. I've had great players. Some of them post this forum. So I've had good players. But I've also had really bad players like people bringing grenades to IRL games or someone trying to rape a baby dragon or somebody going on constant racist rants. Like a lot of poo poo that I've had to deal with and kick people out of and just nasty poo poo like that. So while I've had great players, I've also had shity players. So I know that that changes and it all depends on who I can get down for the game.
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Uhhh the guy who brought the grenade sounds cooler than you
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Covok, buddy, I say this in all kindness but you should probably take a posting break, probably until you've had some sleep.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Covok, buddy, I say this in all kindness but you should probably take a posting break, probably until you've had some sleep. Yeah, you're right. I had a stressful day at work and I think I let it pour out in that manner which was probably not appropriate.
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Personally I like the skill system concept that several different OSR games have used where your skills are primarily determined by your class and often whatever occupation your character had prior to becoming an adventurer(and sometimes your culture and/or race as well), so if it's something your character could reasonably be assumed to be able to do because of any of those than they'd be skilled in it It's a pretty simple yet intuitive concept in my opinion
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Delta Green has a Bundle of Holding https://bundleofholding.com/presents/DeltaGreen2  http://www.delta-green.com/2018/06/the-delta-green-2-bundle-of-holding-is-now-live/ quote:Agents, we’re fighting for humanity here with a Delta Green +2 Bundle of Holding! This is an incredible deal.
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Honestly I rarely bother with Bundle of Holding offers, as they often feel still kinda overpriced, especially for how pathetically low the payout to the charities are But then I'm of the opinion that most things sold in electronic formats are massively overpriced in general(like there's only a handful of books that I think actually deserve to be sold for more than 10 bucks, and even that should be rare, most honestly should be in the under 5 dollar range)
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So that stupid son of a bitch RPGpundit is reportedly trying to start what can only be called D&D gamergate. From what I can tell it started with Jeremy Crawford posting this: https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/1008872440544485376 And this idiotic reply: https://twitter.com/KasimirUrbanski/status/1008915981283090433 And snowballed into "DnD is being ruined by SJWs". They're going after the podcasts and pretty much every other thing that's made DnD not exclusive to disgusting horrible nerds in the past 10 years or so as proof of some conspiracy to take D&D away from real fans. So far the twitter trends are overwhelmingly dunking on the very idea, but with the way these things tend to go, I say keep an eye out and brace yourselves.
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly I rarely bother with Bundle of Holding offers, as they often feel still kinda overpriced, especially for how pathetically low the payout to the charities are Most games aren't sold at a high enough price tbh, and that's including digital versions.
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I'm not about to post the following in an attempt to convince Covok to keep playing, because I do think they need the break if they feel like it, but rather to commiserate: Much like my actual work, DMing is a constant battle to get the most done with the littlest work involved. There are systems where you don't have to set the DCs yourself, and there are systems tell you what the DCs are supposed to be for you and you can simply rely on those, and there are systems where NPCs are not significantly difficult to create. ... but since I'm running D&D 3e, sometimes you gotta make up that stuff yourself:    Lurdiak posted:So that stupid son of a bitch RPGpundit is reportedly trying to start what can only be called D&D gamergate. Yeah I already made a parallel post in the Industry thread, but yeah, poo poo is awful. I do think that WOTC should be held accountable for willingly attaching their name to this piece-of-poo poo.
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Lurdiak posted:And snowballed into "DnD is being ruined by SJWs". They're going after the podcasts and pretty much every other thing that's made DnD not exclusive to disgusting horrible nerds in the past 10 years or so as proof of some conspiracy to take D&D away from real fans. His latest project involves chats with Desborough and Venger Satanis, and at least one episode he tags as "you have been taught D&D wrong, probably on purpose to undermine the hobby." So, great. If you go to the DNDGate hashtag on twitter it's a handful of his bullshit and then a much longer history of people being mad about some iPhone "Do Not Disturb" glitch.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yeah I already made a parallel post in the Industry thread, but yeah, poo poo is awful. I do think that WOTC should be held accountable for willingly attaching their name to this piece-of-poo poo. Apparently he's been calling for a D&Dgate since at least april, but piggybacking off that Crawford tweet means it's actually gaining some ground now.
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Kai Tave posted:Most games aren't sold at a high enough price tbh, and that's including digital versions. I'm fine with the pricing for physical books for the most part, it's just digital only that I have issues with
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drrockso20 posted:I'm fine with the pricing for physical books for the most part, it's just digital only that I have issues with The majority of costs of a physical book also apply to a digital one. The actual materials and printing is a pretty small slice of the pie.
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly I rarely bother with Bundle of Holding offers, as they often feel still kinda overpriced, especially for how pathetically low the payout to the charities are I can guess.
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Please remember to actually pay people for their work, thanks
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Like maybe there's an argument to be had that if your primary motivation is donating to charity that you're better off just donating money to that charity directly, but in terms of pure elfgame economics $30 for the entire new Delta Green line, even discounting things like the fiction anthologies, is a pretty ridiculously good deal and looking at that and thinking that it's somehow still overpriced is kinda dumb.
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Xarbala posted:Please remember to actually pay people for their work, thanks 
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Hey folks, I'm looking to get some art done for the characters in my D&D group as a surprise. I was wondering if folks here had any good recommendations for folks taking (paid) commissions?
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Kai Tave posted:Like maybe there's an argument to be had that if your primary motivation is donating to charity that you're better off just donating money to that charity directly, but in terms of pure elfgame economics $30 for the entire new Delta Green line, even discounting things like the fiction anthologies, is a pretty ridiculously good deal and looking at that and thinking that it's somehow still overpriced is kinda dumb. I only think they're too much when you compare them to things like the previously absurdly good value humblebundles. Gimme that two year old prestige RPG for peanuts you fat cats!! 
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On RPG pricing chat, here's a quick breakdown of costs as they apply to various incarnations of the product: These costs apply to every edition of the product, regardless of format:
These are the extra costs which apply to the print edition:
Digital RPG products are grossly underpriced.
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Lurdiak posted:So that stupid son of a bitch RPGpundit is reportedly trying to start what can only be called D&D gamergate. The sad thing is that this is just the exact same poo poo (actively harassing people who aren't straight white cis men out of the industry to keep RPGs "pure," because Pundit is an actual fascist) that Zak/Pundit/Trollamn and friends have been pulling for half a decade, just with a new twitter hashtag. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Jun 20, 2018 |
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Lurdiak posted:Apparently he's been calling for a D&Dgate since at least april, but piggybacking off that Crawford tweet means it's actually gaining some ground now. Is it though? All the twitter responses I can see seem to be uniformly mocking. The thing is that Pundito has been actively alienating all his natural buddies for the last X years and driving people away from his forum through unhinged ranting - and without the chan/discord backup gang he's not having any luck setting up a movement. I think part of his problem is that his natural allies are also the kind of technophobes who aren't particularly into social media brigading. It is super funny to read his secret forum threads where he tries to rark up his people to join his twitter crusade and they're all like '... we don't like twitter, that's for YOUNG PEOPLE'
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It's a safe bet that anything that's the 'Gamergate of X' is either a hurricane in a teacup or a complete non-starter.
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Gamergate spun off of the various long running harassment campaigns in the Tradgame space so this is less a spinoff and more of the original recipe boiling over. It probably won't get much traction only because a lot of the other bad actors in that have a lot invested in appearing politically left.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Gamergate spun off of the various long running harassment campaigns in the Tradgame space so this is less a spinoff and more of the original recipe boiling over. It probably won't get much traction only because a lot of the other bad actors in that have a lot invested in appearing politically left. Well that, and Pundowski has negative charisma and couldn't lead ants to a sugar pile. If this stupid hashtag gets any sort of traction it'll be in spite of him, not because of him. Also  of course he follows Jordan Peterson. Of loving course.
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Yeah, that's the necessary corollary, if no one else is going to pick up the ball and run it he'll just spike it directly into his own nuts.
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What is a Gamer gate?
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Slimnoid posted:Also  
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Plutonis posted:What is a Gamer gate? Being mad that creators are starting to more closely reflect the demographics of the customers.
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Plutonis posted:What is a Gamer gate? 
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Plutonis posted:What is a Gamer gate?
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I hope he's serenading a beautiful Kou-Toa lady on a balcony.
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LongDarkNight posted:I hope he's serenading a beautiful Kou-Toa lady on a balcony. M'lamia
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LongDarkNight posted:I hope he's serenading a beautiful Kou-Toa lady on a balcony. What you fail to see behind the rock formation in back is Cyrano Sahuagin feeding this looker his lines.
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remusclaw posted:What you fail to see behind the rock formation in back is Cyrano Sahuagin feeding this looker his lines.
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