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Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





boop the snoot posted:

There’s no way someone is this stupid.

lol

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Donald Trump used bone spurs to get out of Vietnam. And while I think it gives him no right to talk poo poo about anyone who has ever been in the military, it is 100% smarter than breaking your leg and deciding to do it again.

Congrats, you’re dumber than Donald loving Trump.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Mustang posted:

If you're on JBLM every morning you have to sing the 7th ID Bayonet Song after Reveille

You mean I Corps song?

Vahalyka.

I understand. I came to this very section while I was stationed in Germany. Loving life. I was arrogant and didn't realize it. I was limited to my perspective and gently caress anyone else's. Then I got hurt. Fine one day, and then the next I could barely walk 100m without agonizing pain. Shin splints like you wouldn't believe. Ended up being compartment syndrome. Had surgery but it didn't go away. You see, I also have a herniated disc from Army life. Just found out, so that was 6 years of wondering WHY my legs hurt and eventually I got kicked out of the Army for it. The Army hated me, and I'm sure you can sort by posts and see how close to suicide I've come in this thread. Because it doesn't matter how good you are at your actual job, it's how good you can soldier.

You're married right? Plan on kids? I have three awesome boys. All under 4 years old. I'll never be able to run and play with them. I can teach them how to ride a bike but I cant ride one myself. You know how hard it is to explain to your son that "daddy cant play tag" because of your back or legs?

Not yet you dont.

Live your life. Do what you want to do. But dont turn away the advice being handed down here. If you're going to jump again, heal. Be patient. I'd rather you didn't jump, but I know you'll do it anyways.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Vahakyla posted:

The last few bastions of American fixed-service term pensions are just amazingly great opportunities and the Army shields me from the otherwise terrible parts of american society. I can retire early with my wife if we stay on track with this with our IRAs and TSP, and it’s just too tempting to pass. Not only that but so far I just really like the Army.

I don’t wanna work for the rest of my life.

*turns patrol cap sideways*

Hey bro. Let me talk at you.



I've been in for 21 years now (and am still in like a doofus). I've seen dozens (hundreds?) of dudes in your situation.

You can have an amazing life set up just on what you've done so far.

1. You can get that med board retirement.
2. You can get that VA disability rating + payment.
3. You can go to school for free while getting retirement/dis-ability (either through GI bill or VA).
4. Depending on what state you settle down in you can get other awesome benefits like lower taxes than everyone else and/or free college for your wife and kids.
5. That extra $$ from the retirement/disability will allow you to take any job that interests you and you'll still be very comfortable doing something you really like.
6. Americans worship vets. You'll be the most employable dude on the block.

And you, and your wife can live an awesome life. And you'll always be able to speak with pride (to civilians at least because they don't know poo poo) about your time in the military.

Life will be awesome.

The army will happily use you (and it already has), it is perfectly right and good that you use it right back.

Soulex posted:


You're married right? Plan on kids? I have three awesome boys. All under 4 years old. I'll never be able to run and play with them. I can teach them how to ride a bike but I cant ride one myself. You know how hard it is to explain to your son that "daddy cant play tag" because of your back or legs?


I had two herniated discs in my lower back. Doc diagnosed me with degenerative disc disease. Several months ago I had another MRI and I now only have 1 slightly bulging disc.

Back decompression therapy (reverse hyper and split table traction) fixed me. Your cartilage can repair itself, it just needs circulation. Compressed discs don't get circulation because they're like a sponge that is being kept squeezed all the time.

spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jun 20, 2018

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Hmmm those are good points, or he can get another jump in and have his spine snap to prove *reasons*

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

Vahakyla posted:

Death before re-enlistment. I have no interest in medic stuff. I’ll wrap up the rest of my career as an O. I have civilian Fire 1, USAR, Tech Rescue, Diver, EMT certs so a fireman would be a stop gap option.

I’m just making sure that I can switch over and have for example no P2 profile slapped onto me.

Realistically, my airborne career will wrap up with this Italy assignment since.

Hahahahahaahahahahahaaa you are never getting commissioned

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

maffew buildings posted:

Hmmm those are good points, or he can get another jump in and have his spine snap to prove *reasons*

If his backup option is really firefighting and rescue, then he has to realize having a hosed up back will not allow that to happen.

Wearing an SCBA isn’t great for your back either. Not to mention bending and lifting and moving patients. CPR with a perma-jacked back is not gonna be fun either.

Edit: If he has any questions about the field, or if any of you do, hit me up. I spent 4 years working part time fire gigs in various departments of various sizes, and just got hired on full time at one. If you want to know about the loving best career ever and the process to get it, feel free to ask.

windshipper fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Jun 20, 2018

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Soulex posted:

You're married right? Plan on kids? I have three awesome boys. All under 4 years old. I'll never be able to run and play with them. I can teach them how to ride a bike but I cant ride one myself. You know how hard it is to explain to your son that "daddy cant play tag" because of your back or legs?

Not yet you dont.

Live your life. Do what you want to do. But dont turn away the advice being handed down here. If you're going to jump again, heal. Be patient. I'd rather you didn't jump, but I know you'll do it anyways.

Bullshit, should that happen (or if he should make a crater) we all know the Army would make sure his family doesn't suffer any undue strain.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

McNally posted:

Bullshit, should that happen (or if he should make a crater) we all know the Army would make sure his family doesn't suffer any undue strain.

:lol:

thetechnoloser
Feb 11, 2003

Say hello to post-apocalyptic fun!
Grimey Drawer

boop the snoot posted:

He’s just a good troll. There’s no way someone is this stupid. He should get out and run for president.

No way that's his real name?

Real last name username in GiP?

Vah, I salute you. :911: You did it. You're peak enlisted. You're so enlisted you did it in not one, but two countries' armies. Srsly.

thetechnoloser fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Jun 20, 2018

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
*checks global*

oh my god it is

we found it boys, peak enlisted

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


McNally posted:

Bullshit, should that happen (or if he should make a crater) we all know the Army would make sure his family doesn't suffer any undue strain.

:drat:

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Vahakyla posted:


Realistically, my airborne career will wrap up with this Italy assignment since.

lol you idiot, jump wings are like the ocarina in Zelda games only when you rub them they teleport you to Ft. Bragg.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Or Polk. Don't forget about Polk, no matter how much you want to.

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

not caring here posted:

Or Polk. Don't forget about Polk, no matter how much you want to.

Polk owns, really the best 2.5 years or so of my life

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Wow your life sucks

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
You should go Ranger for a couple years and then go for selection dude, they love hard chargers like you and all that combat jumping and ruck marching definitely won't exacerbate your back problems unless you're lacking heart

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

spacetoaster posted:

*turns patrol cap sideways*

Hey bro. Let me talk at you.



I've been in for 21 years now (and am still in like a doofus). I've seen dozens (hundreds?) of dudes in your situation.

You can have an amazing life set up just on what you've done so far.

1. You can get that med board retirement.
2. You can get that VA disability rating + payment.
3. You can go to school for free while getting retirement/dis-ability (either through GI bill or VA).
4. Depending on what state you settle down in you can get other awesome benefits like lower taxes than everyone else and/or free college for your wife and kids.
5. That extra $$ from the retirement/disability will allow you to take any job that interests you and you'll still be very comfortable doing something you really like.
6. Americans worship vets. You'll be the most employable dude on the block.

And you, and your wife can live an awesome life. And you'll always be able to speak with pride (to civilians at least because they don't know poo poo) about your time in the military.

Life will be awesome.

The army will happily use you (and it already has), it is perfectly right and good that you use it right back.


I had two herniated discs in my lower back. Doc diagnosed me with degenerative disc disease. Several months ago I had another MRI and I now only have 1 slightly bulging disc.

Back decompression therapy (reverse hyper and split table traction) fixed me. Your cartilage can repair itself, it just needs circulation. Compressed discs don't get circulation because they're like a sponge that is being kept squeezed all the time.

Yeah, I'm hoping I'll get better, but my legs are still permanently hosed from the compartment syndrome

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Its depressing realizing that I still have another year left of being an S4

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Mustang posted:

Its depressing realizing that I still have another year left of being an S4

Your ADSO's not over?

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
It's over but I want to get CPT first.

I'm about to go on leave and spend some time looking into going to grad school programs. I'm going to try to do the corporate fellowship program and if I cant find a decent paying job then I'll use my GI Bill.

So I guess it's less than a year left factoring in 3 months for the corporate fellowship.

Being an S4 is the most soul crushing job I've ever had. I've got a demanding XO and all of my subordinates have issues that get in the way of their work at least once a week.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Get to captain. So you can what, tell everyone you were a captain? Meanwhile you're on here every day complaining about how the Army sucks, but you're staying in so you can get a meaningless (to the outside world) title and a pay increase that you won't actually take advantage of.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

thetechnoloser posted:

No way that's his real name?

Real last name username in GiP?

Yeah, what kind of moron does that?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
somebody is gonna love calling him cap'n

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.
Interviewer: "Captain, eh?"

Civilian Mustang, excited at the prospect of a real job: "Yes, sir!"

Interviewer: "So, you weren't smart enough to get out at your first chance as a lieutenant, but not dumb enough to stay in and make any real rank, then."

Mustang: "Uh..."

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
How big was your ship??

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

Mustang posted:

It's over but I want to get CPT first.

I'm about to go on leave and spend some time looking into going to grad school programs. I'm going to try to do the corporate fellowship program and if I cant find a decent paying job then I'll use my GI Bill.

So I guess it's less than a year left factoring in 3 months for the corporate fellowship.

Being an S4 is the most soul crushing job I've ever had. I've got a demanding XO and all of my subordinates have issues that get in the way of their work at least once a week.

Speaking as someone who worked in a loving soul crushing job - leave. There are other opportunities. Your ADSO is over. Do something else. Sometimes, even just a change to the lateral is better, because it's different for a little while. And then use that as a stepping stone to get something better, because you'll have had real world experience outside the Army you can cite.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Mustang posted:

It's over but I want to get CPT first.

I'm about to go on leave and spend some time looking into going to grad school programs. I'm going to try to do the corporate fellowship program and if I cant find a decent paying job then I'll use my GI Bill.

So I guess it's less than a year left factoring in 3 months for the corporate fellowship.

Being an S4 is the most soul crushing job I've ever had. I've got a demanding XO and all of my subordinates have issues that get in the way of their work at least once a week.

get the gently caress out you stupid motherfucker and go be free

gently caress man

really

like really you wanna loving stay in just to put on some railroad tracks on your motherfucking collar you stupid motherfucker you

loving get out now

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

like for real, between you and vahaklya, the past 48 hours have been p hilarious in the army thread

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Mustang is gonna make O-5.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Thank you thread for entertaining and enlightening me as a civvy

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken
Since I went on terminal leave, I have never been asked what rank I was in the army. Ever. And I work as a contractor in the same field, surrounded by literally the only people in the country who would even know whether or not Specialist was higher ranked than Major.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Rhymenoserous posted:

lol you idiot, jump wings are like the ocarina in Zelda games only when you rub them they teleport you to Ft. Bragg.

:drat:

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


the only people that care what rank you were when you get out were E4s or didn't make it out of basic

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

mlmp08 posted:

Mustang is gonna make O-5.

McNally posted:

Right before you commit to getting out of the Army, you're going to go on a blind date that goes really well. You're going to end up knocking her up and marrying her because it's the Right Thing to Do.

That's when you're going to discover that her father is a flag officer and you decide to stay in the Army, because once you're the son-in-law of a general, things will probably get better.

Things won't get better.

One day you're going to find yourself a major doing some battalion staff job you hate with a miserable home life, working late as often as possible to stay away from your wife nagging you for not being as high-speed as her father (who had made lieutenant colonel at a younger age than you, Major Mustang, are currently).

You find yourself back at NTC where you've spent so much time you've genuinely considered buying a house because, gently caress, you're gonna be there anyway. While there some not terribly unattractive SPC catches your eye. Happenstance leads the two of you spending a lot of time together and eventually you have an affair with her.

Word gets out. Your wife leaves you. Your career is in tatters, made worse by the fact that your father-in-law now hates your guts.

But you're too close to retirement to end it now.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Seriously if I ever get into a position where I’m hiring people and I see that someone did 20+ years in the military that’s going to be a serious character defect.

That includes people on this forum.

E: gently caress even doing more than one enlistment is going to be a knock on their ability to exercise good judgement.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Yeah, as soon as I hear 20+ years in the military that says to me that this person is going to be a serious, stupid problem.

Of course it's not always the case but that's the impression that I get.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

not caring here posted:

Yeah, as soon as I hear 20+ years in the military that says to me that this person is going to be a serious, stupid problem.

Of course it's not always the case but that's the impression that I get.



boop the snoot posted:

Seriously if I ever get into a position where I’m hiring people and I see that someone did 20+ years in the military that’s going to be a serious character defect.

That includes people on this forum.

E: gently caress even doing more than one enlistment is going to be a knock on their ability to exercise good judgement.

drat. Truth pills are hard to swallow.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
Eh I’m going to be right there with you. Luckily I’ll be working with a bunch of social awkward libertarian programmers when I finish so the type of dumb will be relative.

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

spacetoaster posted:

drat. Truth pills are hard to swallow.

You’re guilty by association.

I automatically someone who spends 20+ in the military will try to apply that poo poo lifestyle to a civilian workplace. Maybe I’m wrong but if my experience with retirees has taught me anything....

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