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People are saying that's justification that this is a port. Except, you know, games that build off of previous incarnations aren't ports. Like Saint's Row 4. Or Super Mario Galaxy 2. Or Battlefield 4. It's almost like that's how sequels work.
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Theta Zero posted:People are saying that's justification that this is a port. Except, you know, games that build off of previous incarnations aren't ports. Like Saint's Row 4. Or Super Mario Galaxy 2. Or Battlefield 4. I guess Melee, Brawl and 4 are also all ports since they too have elements from the games before them.
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Jun 21, 2018 00:43
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I DEMAND a brand new Smash built from scratch! Less characters! Less stages!
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Jun 21, 2018 00:46
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This Portal game is just a port of Half Life 2!
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Jun 21, 2018 00:48
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The Port Claimers (and their hit song '500 Reasons Smash 5 Is A Port') are desperate to cling to any feasible evidence they can to keep calling Smash 5 a port. I don't know if it's because they don't want their prediction to be wrong or because they want an excuse to not buy a Switch/Smash 5 and make fun of those who would spend their money on it, but it is loving mindboggling considering the wealth of data we already have that proves it is a brand new game. Hell even ZeRO has gone into detail in several of his videos talking about how different it plays and feels and yet the arguments continue.
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Jun 21, 2018 00:48
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ive literally never seen anyone since the game cam eout call it a port yet i’ve read five thousand posts about people complaining about port people that said i would personally liken this smash 4 but more not necessarily a port but like... street fighter 4 arcade edition. the same, but more stuff and bigger balance tweaks i’ve never played sf4 don’t @ me
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Jun 21, 2018 00:56
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This isn't even news. What did people think Sakurai meant by "10,000s of changes"? That claim would make no sense for a game made from scratch. They used Smash 4 and its engine/content/mechanics as a starting point, then made a huge number of fundamental changes and additions. This is one good way to make a sequel to a video game.
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Jun 21, 2018 00:57
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Kaubocks posted:ive literally never seen anyone since the game cam eout call it a port yet i’ve read five thousand posts about people complaining about port people    Also "No." <---- SUPER SALTY
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Jun 21, 2018 01:18
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TheLoneStar posted:I don't have any particular desire in mind, I just want some sort of story mode to come back akin to Subspace Emissary. nocturnal emissary
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Jun 21, 2018 01:20
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This game is more of a fine, old Madeira than a port IMO
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Jun 21, 2018 01:22
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I do not get why it's a debate at all. Like even if it is a port are you not going to buy it for the new characters/stages and updates? It just seems like a bunch of barely literate kids arguing semantics
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Jun 21, 2018 02:11
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Hell, perhaps, even, it's a single malt scotch, from Sakurai's top shelf.
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Jun 21, 2018 02:16
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I'm sure there's plenty of Smash/Nintendo haters who won't play this game calling it a port. It's clear there's an incredible amount of new content, and reused assets like character models were nontheless upgraded significantly. After the e3 video, I'm comfortable calling this the 5th Smash Bros game.
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Jun 21, 2018 02:17
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If this game were a port, it would be fruity and full-bodied, like Tingle.
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Jun 21, 2018 02:20
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Guy A. Person posted:I do not get why it's a debate at all. Like even if it is a port are you not going to buy it for the new characters/stages and updates? It just seems like a bunch of barely literate kids arguing semantics I think the people screaming "its a port" want a fundamentally different set of physics and mechanics (obviously closer to melee), and any signs that the game has ideas from brawl or 4 they retreat into the game being terrible. Not entirely melee purists, but a different strand of them that are dissatisfied with how the newer games play for whatever reason. Pretty dumb reasoning considering all of the actual people who have played it say it plays like a whole new game because woopsie it is. But yeah, anyone invested enough in smash to care about this much is lying to themselves if they think they won't buy it. Games gonna be great. I just hope the menu design is better. poo poo like that is what made me not really get as invested in collecting trophies and stuff in Smash 4.
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Jun 21, 2018 02:27
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Just play the loving game. Also, they should add Diskun as the "odd choice" fighter this time around.
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I want Mike Jones to get a trophy at least. Give me something from Startropics even if it’s just a sticker.  I want Sakurai to do for Startropics what he did for Kid Icarus.
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Kaubocks posted:the return of VGCW....... in smash form I want some crazy bastard to buy 66 Amiibos plus echoes and make this happen.
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Jun 21, 2018 04:58
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*startles awake, covered in sweat* Blaziken as a Captain Falcon echo fighter
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Bleck posted:*startles awake, covered in sweat* Blaziken as a Captain Falcon echo fighter Only if up-B is changed to be Sky Uppercut. And maybe neutral B is a big charged-up Blaze Kick (yes yes even though down B would be Blaze Kick, or Double Kick? Blaziken punching would look wrong to me)
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Jun 21, 2018 05:26
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If he can sky uppercut I reckon he can fire/dynamic punch, I mean he's got the wrist fires for a reason.
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Jun 21, 2018 06:03
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SeANMcBAY posted:I want Sakurai to do for Startropics what he did for Kid Icarus. Give him a incredibly good game that nobody will play because of a control issue they’d probably adapt to easily? ...
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Jun 21, 2018 07:54
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I'd probably play it if it didn't look and sound like anime.
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Jun 21, 2018 10:28
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Avirosb posted:I'd probably play it if it didn't look and sound like anime. You are doing yourself a huge disservice. e: this is coming from someone who would cross the street to avoid an anime
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Jun 21, 2018 10:30
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Avirosb posted:I'd probably play it if it didn't look and sound like anime. You're posting in the Smash Bros thread my friend
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Jun 21, 2018 10:33
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Avirosb posted:I'd probably play it if it didn't look and sound like anime. I was like this until I played Fire Emblem
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Jun 21, 2018 13:02
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Cross the street to get closer to anime
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Jun 21, 2018 13:09
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Anime, much like Super Smash Bros., is good.
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Jun 21, 2018 13:11
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Love anime
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Jun 21, 2018 13:12
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It sounds and is written like the best kind of Saturday morning cartoon. Even if the gameplay gets hit or miss depending on how well you can adapt to the odd controls, the dialogue is an absolute joy. Sorry that they have anime eyes and therefore it is literally unplayable.
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multijoe posted:You're posting in the Smash Bros thread my friend Even beyond the obvious Fire Emblemers, Shulk, Cloud, Bayo, ZSS even Mega Man is directly patterned on Astro Boy and the entire Mario cast is pretty derivative of that style as well If you want to avoid anime then you basically can't play games from Japan with hand drawn/designed characters
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considering the recent fremblems propensity to indulge the types of folks with body pillows I don't think some apprehension is misplaced
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Jun 21, 2018 15:25
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Kid Icarus is good, and its story and writing are at least 50% of the reason why. Anime haterz 
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*sees Pokemon Trainer on the character select screen* AHHHHHH AN ANIME!!! *crosses self, goes to confession*
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Guy A. Person posted:Even beyond the obvious Fire Emblemers, Shulk, Cloud, Bayo, ZSS even Mega Man is directly patterned on Astro Boy and the entire Mario cast is pretty derivative of that style as well I think the "ugh anime" thing comes out of people seeing similar styled and proportioned characters. Anime is a really wide umbrella as is western animation, but there's definitely smaller niches of design tropes within both, the problem being is people don't really have better terms for the eastern tropes they don't like beyond just saying "anime"
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Kid Icarus was very heavily localized (a lot of Hades' ham is on the loc) with Sakurai's blessing, so it's more of a saturday morning cartoon vibe to me anyway.
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Jun 21, 2018 15:41
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Has it come out yet?
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Avirosb posted:I'd probably play it if it didn't look and sound like anime. 
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I'd rank it higher if it wasn't physically painful to play. That said, points for Sakurai for such a terrible control scheme that it causes body pain yet still making the game so fun people play it anyways. I hope he gets to do an Uprising 2 once SSBU is out and he's farther from dying. The Switch may be the best place to make it both fun and harmless.
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Monitor posted:I think the people screaming "its a port" want a fundamentally different set of physics and mechanics (obviously closer to melee), and any signs that the game has ideas from brawl or 4 they retreat into the game being terrible. Not entirely melee purists, but a different strand of them that are dissatisfied with how the newer games play for whatever reason. Pretty dumb reasoning considering all of the actual people who have played it say it plays like a whole new game because woopsie it is. https://twitter.com/TheKayBguy/status/1008736348293890048
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