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# ? Jun 22, 2018 00:26 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 14:50 |
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I think we can all agree that in most countries with modern tax laws, depreciation plays an important role in financial tax planning for businesses and even individuals in the right situations, and properly executed is quite GWM. Where the Aussie crisis goes off the rails is due to poor understanding of said rules and their proper application, not keeping up with changes to said rules, over-leveraging, and the usual risks associated with buying real estate as a speculative investment. Depreciation might be a factor in how certain retirees who bought a bunch of properties are currently being hosed, but it isn't really why. You can debate that the laws themselves created the crisis by allowing people to get themselves hosed too easily, but at the end of the day, they made the decision.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 01:58 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Depreciation is based on the approximate expected life of the item. Insurance companies use depreciation tables, too, to determine the approximate value of an item that was lost in an insurable event. It only relates to revenue insofar as it's alao a system by which the tax burden attached to your revenue stream can be reduced. Ah, so British people renting country cottages can depreciate over a thousand years?
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 02:02 |
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sale on Banksy art posted:Ah, so British people renting country cottages can depreciate over a thousand years? For book, tax depreciation is usually set by the taxing authority by property type.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 02:05 |
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sale on Banksy art posted:Ah, so British people renting country cottages can depreciate over a thousand years? If the taxing authority decides that's an appropriate approximation of the typical useful lifespan of that category of property, then sure.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 03:20 |
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Vox Nihili posted:If the taxing authority decides that's an appropriate approximation of the typical useful lifespan of that category of property, then sure. This will be my last post in this derail, but "useful life" needs to match some kind of reasonable revenue producing period for the entity currently using it. There is no case in which it would be reasonable to depreciate something over a thousand years, even if the asset could realistically last that long. The main concept of depreciation is matching costs to revenues, not the physical facts of the asset, although physical condition is one consideration taken into account when choosing a depreciation period. I was just pointing out that depreciation is an abstract financial concept to people debating the depreciation period of houses that aren't even used for income.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 03:52 |
I love how high level accounting is all about getting creative with how you dodge taxes. Depreciation is nothing, it is everything, income is a flat circle that permeates the ether of the eternal goddess. Redefine time a little bit and we can turn it into a charity. I am ready to be CFO of GE.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 04:04 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:I love how high level accounting is all about getting creative with how you dodge taxes. Depreciation is nothing, it is everything, income is a flat circle that permeates the ether of the eternal goddess. Redefine time a little bit and we can turn it into a charity. It's not just about dodging taxes, it's also about making sure your shareholder reports show you met earnings goals for the quarter.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 04:32 |
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GWM: Declaring depreciation on your 20 year old second year NBA player. He’s getting older and must be worse! Best with money will forever be getting a municipality to pay for your $500m arena though.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 04:56 |
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Blinkman987 posted:GWM: Declaring depreciation on your 20 year old second year NBA player. He’s getting older and must be worse! While you are also a federal tax exempt cartel with special Congressional immunity from labor laws
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 12:17 |
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Nocheez posted:Advice for a 20 year old who feels stuck. What kind of advice is she looking for? She makes $100 a week. Get a full-time job.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 12:24 |
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Ebola Roulette posted:What kind of advice is she looking for? She makes $100 a week. Get a full-time job. no
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 14:03 |
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Ebola Roulette posted:What kind of advice is she looking for? She makes $100 a week. Get a full-time job. She says she's been applying to jobs "non-stop". She may not have compelling qualifications at this point.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 14:15 |
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She says that she has one semester of college (her partner has none). She also mentions that she has a medical condition (a pituitary tumor) that makes it hard for her to manage highly physical work which, unfortunately, is probably what she is qualified for. I'm sympathetic in that she seems to have a difficult position to work from, but unfortunately at that level there aren't really more options besides 'make some more money'. You can't budget yourself to success without an income.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 14:36 |
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Pituitary tumor sounds like it might be a legit reason to get disability.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 15:13 |
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n8r posted:Pituitary tumor sounds like it might be a legit reason to get disability. Probably if it's as debilitating as she says, but SSDI + the boyfriends minimum wage job isn't going to get them their dream trailer with a yard. The real issue as I see it here is a couple of kids that are totally unrealistic about reasonably possible outcomes for their lives. They have a place to live that they don't need to pay for right now. Chasing an unrealistic dream goal is a good way to sink what little money they have and put them in an eve worse position. Also, if she applied for SSDI today she'd be lucky to start receiving it by 2021.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 15:40 |
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Motronic posted:Probably if it's as debilitating as she says, but SSDI + the boyfriends minimum wage job isn't going to get them their dream trailer with a yard. The real issue as I see it here is a couple of kids that are totally unrealistic about reasonably possible outcomes for their lives. They have a place to live that they don't need to pay for right now. Chasing an unrealistic dream goal is a good way to sink what little money they have and put them in an eve worse position. The only job-hampering symptom of pituitary tumors is obesity.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 16:11 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:The only job-hampering symptom of pituitary tumors is obesity. ....migraines, vision problems..... But sure, let's go with her just being a fattie.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:06 |
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Job hunting with a shoddy background (self.personalfinance) https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/8t2000/job_hunting_with_a_shoddy_background/ quote:Please, no judgements.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:11 |
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I'm pretty sure that person is actually insane.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:22 |
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Yeah, that lady is nuts.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:28 |
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A quick dive into her post history reveals a lot
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:38 |
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The craziest thing is expecting that r/personalfinance can somehow help your crazy.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 17:54 |
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Ashcans posted:A quick dive into her post history reveals a lot HOLY https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/8t28v2/remorse_i_get_super_judgmental_about_people/ Crazy person posted:[Remorse] I get super judgmental about people posting about parental abuseTough Love
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 18:47 |
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Motronic posted:Probably if it's as debilitating as she says, but SSDI + the boyfriends minimum wage job isn't going to get them their dream trailer with a yard. The real issue as I see it here is a couple of kids that are totally unrealistic about reasonably possible outcomes for their lives. this sort of sounds like "poor people should be happy with their lot" sort of language and i'm gonna push back. all people deserve happiness and health and a life free of pain and need and shouldn't need to "settle" for less, and I'm going to keep agitating for that even if we simultaneously are helping poorer people survive within their current situation (eg "you can't afford to both lease this car and pay rent, is there a more affordable option?").
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:03 |
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People feeling entitled to things is how someone working part time at Dairy Queen becomes upside down on their horse mortgage though.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:09 |
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That woman is so far into derail territory that I don't have a bird majestic enough to post in response to it. Let us change the subject.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:09 |
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:this sort of sounds like "poor people should be happy with their lot" sort of language and i'm gonna push back. I'm not seeing "poor people should be happy with their lot" in Motronic's post. Also, assuming that it is true that "all people deserve happiness and health and a life free of pain and need," does that translate to all people deserving to live in a place of their own? I'm pretty sure multiple generations of families living together has been the norm throughout history. The social stigma associated with young adults living with their parents seems more the problem.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:16 |
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More of a US problem
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:19 |
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If you don't stop talking about it, you're going to summon he who must not be named.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 19:30 |
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:this sort of sounds like "poor people should be happy with their lot" sort of language and i'm gonna push back. I've neither said nor suggested anything of the sort, nor have I taken a position on what they "deserve", only their realistic earning potential based on the facts presented. I'll leave the moral judgements to someone else, and hopefully they'l do it in a thread I don't read.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 20:27 |
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:this sort of sounds like "poor people should be happy with their lot" sort of language and i'm gonna push back. This isn't about what they deserve, or what's fair in life. The simple fact is that they cannot afford the things they want. No amount of budgeting will make it possible for them, so they're gonna have a bad time if they pursue those things without new income. Perfect candidates for the BWM thread.
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# ? Jun 22, 2018 20:32 |
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Motronic posted:I've neither said nor suggested anything of the sort, nor have I taken a position on what they "deserve", only their realistic earning potential based on the facts presented. I'll leave the moral judgements to someone else, and hopefully they'l do it in a thread I don't read. okie dokie, i must have read something into it that wasn't there! apologies
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 00:20 |
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Hoodwinker posted:That woman is so far into derail territory that I don't have a bird majestic enough to post in response to it. Let us change the subject.
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 00:55 |
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It is an excellent bird... thing.
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 01:31 |
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Moneyball posted:If you don't stop talking about it, you're going to summon he who must not be named.
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 04:38 |
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Like saying Beetlejuice 3 times, you don't know exactly what form it will take, only that it's going to happen. And so it has. Ixian fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jun 23, 2018 |
# ? Jun 23, 2018 05:15 |
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Please note the red text
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 05:21 |
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Cross-posting from the cursed images/idiots on social media threads: A BWM where the horse lady is the financially-sane one. Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jun 23, 2018 |
# ? Jun 23, 2018 16:47 |
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Mr.Radar posted:Cross-posting from the cursed images/idiots on social media threads: Well it's easy to be financially sane when all your bills are paid for by your boyfriend and then you plan on dumping him for accruing debt paying for everything.
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# ? Jun 23, 2018 16:54 |