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JcDent posted:Oye, what is there to see in Gdansk in terms of milhist sites? Westerplatte has a memorial for the first shots of WW2 but it was underwhelming. It did have Poles cosplaying as Wehrmacht, which was kinda whoa.
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chitoryu12 posted:This continued into Vietnam as well. A lot of local alcohol was purchased and soldiers in civilian areas often hit up the bars. Beer was shipped from America as part of a unit's regular supplies at firebases, and some units would pool their money to get someone to buy more beer on resupply missions. 
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ChubbyChecker posted:pole dancing round the periscope? The sail, actually.
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JcDent posted:Oye, what is there to see in Gdansk in terms of milhist sites? ORP Blyskawica, a WWII-era destroyer that broke out of the Baltic to England in the early days of the war, fought in Norway, in the Battle of Atlantic, during D-Day, and in the Battle of Ushant. Wikipedia tells me it is the oldest preserved destroyer in the world, but I am not sure if this is accurate. EDIT: Also I would advise against visiting Malbork in a package deal with Gdansk. The fortress is huge and there is a lot to see there, so I would recommend visiting it during the Malbork Siege reenactment (July 20-22), which also features a huge fair and is really cool. Tevery Best fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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chitoryu12 posted:The British in WW2 even experimented with a brewing ship to get beer to the Pacific, though it wasn't finished in time for the war's end. I've wanted a video game revolving around brewing for a very long time and I think this is it right there. "Make Beer or Die." Balancing the logistics for getting fermentables, being able to work that together into something of a good quality, and deliver it as close as you can to the troops without risking getting blown up. Like, I can imagine there isn't any malt nearby and you're throwing amylase in with a bunch of unmalted barley and wheat, but you still don't have enough fermentables. So you trade some intermediately-fermented product with locals to get platains, starchy roots, and molasses, and you're meanwhile having to desalinate ocean water because you can't take too much of limited fresh water nearby. An American submarine mistakes you for the enemy and a torpedo unceremoniously bonks off the side of the hull.
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Mr Enderby posted:I met a guy at a wedding a couple of years ago, who had just been chucked out the rn for running a ship onto a shoal. He was really bummed about it. I mean, there's an awful lot of oggin and hardly any shoal, and they even put floaty things there to tell you where it is. Unless he's one of those poor buggers who could never remember which was West and which was East...
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Cyrano4747 posted:Anyone interested in this there's been a parallel discussion of courts martial and captains losing their commands over in the cold war thread.
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HEY GUNS posted:members of the military? stupid poo poo?! huge if true I mean, if any ship's crew needs strippers it's a submarine's. Do other countries have equivalent subs to the US' boomers that just wander around in hiding for months at a time? I know Russia has hunter-killers and fast attack a analogues, but I never hear about boomers except for American ones.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:I mean, if any ship's crew needs strippers it's a submarine's. Do other countries have equivalent subs to the US' boomers that just wander around in hiding for months at a time? I know Russia has hunter-killers and fast attack a analogues, but I never hear about boomers except for American ones. Sure they do. The Typhoon class is the one most people think of, but they had a few older ones as well. I think they've got a new one that they put together to replace the typhoons they inherited from the USSR.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:I mean, if any ship's crew needs strippers it's a submarine's. Do other countries have equivalent subs to the US' boomers that just wander around in hiding for months at a time? I know Russia has hunter-killers and fast attack a analogues, but I never hear about boomers except for American ones.
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13th KRRC War Diary, 23rd June 1918 posted:Inspections as usual. Bathing parades were held under company arrangements.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:I mean, if any ship's crew needs strippers it's a submarine's. Do other countries have equivalent subs to the US' boomers that just wander around in hiding for months at a time? I know Russia has hunter-killers and fast attack a analogues, but I never hear about boomers except for American ones. The Soviets definitely had boomers and they're about as comfortable and filled with ameneties as you'd expect from a Soviet submarine. Some even lit on fire, which is definitely not what you want to have happen when you're underwater. The Typhoon class did have a swimming pool and other interesting creature comforts. Probably makes them less miserable than the typical sub. Related, but from my experience, submariners are all weird. Doesn't matter if they're Aussie, Japanese or American, I've never met a normal submariner.
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examples? weird how? dish, my dude, dish
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Good officers, would follow to hell and back, etc
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Milo and POTUS posted:Good officers, would follow to hell and back, etc unironically this. those dudes rule.
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Don Gato posted:The Soviets definitely had boomers and they're about as comfortable and filled with ameneties as you'd expect from a Soviet submarine. Some even lit on fire, which is definitely not what you want to have happen when you're underwater. The Typhoon class did have a swimming pool and other interesting creature comforts. Probably makes them less miserable than the typical sub. This guy is apparently not loving around concerning the pool. I did a google search and there's a quora thread on the topic and the person who answered it was making a certain amount of sense before they started ranting about women on subs and these kids today and their phones.
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This bit about the typhoons has some pictures of the swimming pools. (And everything else.) https://imgur.com/a/xi3P3
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Don Gato posted:Related, but from my experience, submariners are all weird. Doesn't matter if they're Aussie, Japanese or American, I've never met a normal submariner. There’s a memorial to British submariners along the Thames in London. The designers of said memorial thought it was appropriate to feature a front-view cross-section of a submarine with a few crewmen working away, while outside the hull they were completely surrounded by a horde of screaming sea-ghosts.
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Tomn posted:There’s a memorial to British submariners along the Thames in London. The designers of said memorial thought it was appropriate to feature a front-view cross-section of a submarine with a few crewmen working away, while outside the hull they were completely surrounded by a horde of screaming sea-ghosts. Foolish designers, the screaming is supposed to be going on on the inside
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Tomn posted:There’s a memorial to British submariners along the Thames in London. The designers of said memorial thought it was appropriate to feature a front-view cross-section of a submarine with a few crewmen working away, while outside the hull they were completely surrounded by a horde of screaming sea-ghosts.
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HEY GUNS posted:i have unironically read a lovecraft short story that was very like this Is it about a submarine designed to traverse hell? Like imagine being in a hell submarine where there's constant screaming outside the hull and your crew is slowly losing the fight against madness and the urge to open the hatch because they hear someone pounding and screaming for help at all times.
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Tomn posted:There’s a memorial to British submariners along the Thames in London. The designers of said memorial thought it was appropriate to feature a front-view cross-section of a submarine with a few crewmen working away, while outside the hull they were completely surrounded by a horde of screaming sea-ghosts. holy poo poo you weren't kidding 
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Cyrano4747 posted:holy poo poo you weren't kidding Notice how the ghosts are reaching for the submarine, pulling at it, clawing at it, reaching in particular for the top. Trying to get in, to reach the warmth and safety they once knew...or to get the crew out? join us
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HEY GUNS posted:i have unironically read a lovecraft short story that was very like this Oh yeah, "The Temple". When I read it I kept noticing the many, many ways that Lovecraft didn't understand how submarines worked.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Oh yeah, "The Temple".
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chitoryu12 posted:This continued into Vietnam as well. A lot of local alcohol was purchased and soldiers in civilian areas often hit up the bars. Beer was shipped from America as part of a unit's regular supplies at firebases, and some units would pool their money to get someone to buy more beer on resupply missions. When my father was in Vietnam, one of the places he was in got one helicopter a week. It could carry three pallets. One was ammo and the other two were beer.
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Chillbro Baggins posted:When my father was in Vietnam, one of the places he was in got one helicopter a week. It could carry three pallets. One was ammo and the other two were beer. if a letter from a captain comes in and it says "we have been having to buy beer on credit," you know that things are getting very bad for that company
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Chillbro Baggins posted:When my father was in Vietnam, one of the places he was in got one helicopter a week. It could carry three pallets. One was ammo and the other two were beer. A dozen years ago I was talking to some young Brit who was over here (Canada) for his civvy helo license. He was an ex RAF helicopter pilot. While posted in Afganistan he claimed that most evenings, his last flight was to Kabul to pick up as much beer as his chopper could hold from the Russian gangsters. Most would get sold to the adjoining American airbase. I dunno if that was bullshit or not, but it was a good story. That's my story, thanks for listening.
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The Dreyfus Affair was like the OJ Simpson Trial but for France.
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Fangz posted:Would you have given these guys credit? i wouldn't have given them a bag of potato chips without a signed invoice tbh
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I want to say that one of the African heads of state, lieutenant or colonel who took over one of the northern countries IIRC, shot people who failed him personally.Epicurius posted:There was a pretty big purge in the Soviet Union at the very beginning of the war of generals considered criminally incompetent. Dmitri Pavlov was executed after the battle of Minsk along with almost all of his senior staff. The only one who wasn't was Gen. Ivan Boldin, who had commanded a group trapped behind enemy lines and got it safely back to the Soviet lines. General Yermakov, who commanded the 50th Army in Tula was executed in November for letting the 50th Army get encircled during Operation Typhoon. I don't know if it's apocryphal, because I only saw it in.. that movie.. but there's the scene were Krushchev gives the prior commander of Stalingrad a gun and implies he should shoot himself and spare a humiliating trial, and then he does.
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HEY GUNS posted:i wouldn't have given them a bag of potato chips without a signed invoice tbh DO NOT REFUSE US CREDIT, AS A SWORD THROUGH THE KNACKERS OFTEN OFFENDS
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Arban posted:This bit about the typhoons has some pictures of the swimming pools. (And everything else.) This is awesome, thank you for that. Tias posted:I want to say that one of the African heads of state, lieutenant or colonel who took over one of the northern countries IIRC, shot people who failed him personally. Bab Hoskins in Enemy at the Gates. It might have happened, but the early parts of that movie (except crossing the river) do not seem to be cut out of whole cloth, rather they are trying to drive home a year and a half of getting your teeth kicked in and a brutal government in like 10 minutes so they can get to the story.
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Tias posted:I don't know if it's apocryphal, because I only saw it in.. that movie.. but there's the scene were Krushchev gives the prior commander of Stalingrad a gun and implies he should shoot himself and spare a humiliating trial, and then he does. Well, the Southestern Front at Stalingrad was new at the time of the battle, made up of parts of the disbanded Southern Front, commanded by Malinovsky, who died in 1967, and the Stalingrad Front, commanded by Gordov. Gordov was executed in 1950 after he made remarks considered critical of Stalin and executed. So, either it's apocryphal, or I'm not sure who it was.
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The Soviets straight up executed an entire divisions worth of their own me over the course of the battle of Stalingrad. I can't recall if blocking detachments were a thing or not at that point but they absolutely were not shy about enforcing 'not one step backwards'.
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Alchenar posted:The Soviets straight up executed an entire divisions worth of their own me over the course of the battle of Stalingrad. Citation needed.
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