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Harrow posted:I wouldn't have really noticed the weirdness with characters not interacting if your main character had at least two or three lines. Other characters don't necessarily need them, but it feels odd to have Primrose going like, "I don't know why you'd want to help me, but okay," joining up with Alfyn, and then Alfyn remaining totally silent as they go to witness horrible trauma for Primrose and kill a guy. Just a line like, "I can't see someone in need and not help out" or something would've smoothed it over so much. Personally, I disagree with this. All the first chapter scenarios were designed to be the one that the player could be playing first, and I think it would be even more jarring to have Alfyn go "WELL SHUCKS" from the peanut gallery as Primrose's story plays out. That...is an exaggeration I admit, but shoehorning a character into a story sequence that was never accounted for in the first place is always noticeable. See Marie in Persona 4 Golden! You know, right off screen, where she always was, honest! Now, if the second chapter onward for each character has the rest of your party missing or whatever when it makes sense to have all 8 characters joined up, then that would be weird. And apparently from a preview Game Informer did they are reactive in later chapters so I am not too worried about that. But for the first chapters, I am perfectly fine suspending disbelief.
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Recruiting other characters is optional though, so it'd be more like FF6's World of Ruin. Sure, they can have some character interaction but having lots of it would mean having to have constant checks for who is/isn't in the party and adjust accordingly, that is a hell of a lot of work to do.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Recruiting other characters is optional though, so it'd be more like FF6's World of Ruin. Sure, they can have some character interaction but having lots of it would mean having to have constant checks for who is/isn't in the party and adjust accordingly, that is a hell of a lot of work to do. Making a video game is a hell of a lot of work to do 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Recruiting other characters is optional though, so it'd be more like FF6's World of Ruin. Sure, they can have some character interaction but having lots of it would mean having to have constant checks for who is/isn't in the party and adjust accordingly, that is a hell of a lot of work to do. It's a lot of work, sure, but I don't think it's an unreasonable amount of work. It seems like all that interaction could be something that could fit into the scope of everything else they're doing. Limiting things to eight characters helps a lot with that, too. It'll probably be a combination of party members chipping in for certain quests that may interest them, and something like those friendship spots in Xenoblade where if you have the right characters in your party you can trigger a cutscene to build their friendship a bit. At least I'm hoping it's along that scope. I could and probably will end up disappointed.
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Jun 23, 2018 14:04
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Hammer Bro. posted:Anybody know if they've been sending out surveys for this demo? If so, do we know the questions? The game is pretty much finished. They’re not going to send out surveys to change things especially on a huge scale.
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Jun 23, 2018 14:37
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They should send out a survey so we can all ask/beg for Bravely Default-style encounter rate toggling. That seems to be the one feature request I see regularly.
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Jun 23, 2018 16:13
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I took a look at the Octopath reddit and saw people were already number crunching and data-mining who the most optimal party members and the like were. I think that's a little much at this point.
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Harlock posted:I took a look at the Octopath reddit and saw people were already number crunching and data-mining who the most optimal party members and the like were. I think that's a little much at this point. clearly they don't know the the most important metric: how cool and/or adorbs is this character
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Jun 23, 2018 17:42
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Your Computer posted:clearly they don't know the the most important metric: how cool and/or adorbs is this character They are all very cool and adorbs.
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Jun 23, 2018 17:43
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Folt The Bolt posted:They are all very cool and adorbs. Especially if their name is Tressa.
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jimmydalad posted:Especially if their name is Tressa. I never understood why Tressa was so loved. Like, yeah, she's cute and I like her, but I found Alfyn a little cuter. Tressa's a close second.
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Jun 23, 2018 20:55
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it's very cool how characters get significantly different skills and potential builds--like how my Therion could have gone a support debuff route for the beginning but I gave him HP Thief and SP Steal to keep him an evading sustain machine. I went H'aanit next and I love the little Pokemon skillset she can potentially have going. Doing Trueshot crits to her prologue boss was rad as gently caress, too. The game feels like such an oldschool FF6 but with modern upgrades and a way better encounter rate (nowhere near as bad as the older games), it's just a perfect throwback to offering a classic enjoyable RPG. I'm sad the final hour is creeping up now so I probably won't get the third character.
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Junpei posted:I never understood why Tressa was so loved. Like, yeah, she's cute and I like her, but I found Alfyn a little cuter. Tressa's a close second. 
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Junpei posted:I never understood why Tressa was so loved. Like, yeah, she's cute and I like her, but I found Alfyn a little cuter. Tressa's a close second. Because she has a hat. Alfyn does not have a hat. Checkmate.
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Jun 23, 2018 22:19
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Eventually we’re going to need these for all the cast 
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Jun 23, 2018 22:23
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If someone made a Cyrus one within the av limit, I'd claim it.
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Hellioning posted:Because she has a hat. Alfyn has a ponytail. Tressa does not have a ponytail. (His associated color is also green, which is my favorite color.)
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You know, after hearing all the pre-boss battle themes, I must say that they are all pretty awesome! My favorite of them is Cyrus (For Truth), then Alfyn (For Succor), H'aanit (For Master), Tressa (For Treasure), Ophilia (For Light), Olberic (For Redemption), Therion (For Freedom), and finally Primrose (For Revenge). (Also like that, like the pre-boss battle themes, each of the characters' starting town and area use their instruments.)
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Jun 24, 2018 16:54
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jimmydalad posted:Eventually we’re going to need these for all the cast I'd like to see Cyrus, Therion or Ophilia next.
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Jun 24, 2018 19:51
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jimmydalad posted:Eventually we’re going to need these for all the cast 
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I started with Cyrus, but then met Tressa and did her storyline. I'm on the Tressa bandwagon now.
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Jun 24, 2018 20:28
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I still havent played the demo yet but I will probably, play as Tressa
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voltcatfish posted:I still havent played the demo yet but I will probably, play as Tressa This is a good decision.
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I definitely did not think I would like Cyrus, but he might just be my favorite character of the bunch (and I already loved Primrose). After going through everything, I loved the 2nd demo even more and can't wait for the full game. But probably my biggest criticism is that the voice acting gets very very quiet sometimes. I had to put the music volume almost at 0 just to make out what Ophilia's victory lines were even when I put the voices at max volume. For battles it's w/e since I can expect it, but there's no telling for cutscenes when it's gonna be normal or quiet.
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Jun 25, 2018 01:14
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Okay, I did it. I really like Tressa's skills. They're great.
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Unlucky7 posted:Personally, I disagree with this. All the first chapter scenarios were designed to be the one that the player could be playing first, and I think it would be even more jarring to have Alfyn go "WELL SHUCKS" from the peanut gallery as Primrose's story plays out. That...is an exaggeration I admit, but shoehorning a character into a story sequence that was never accounted for in the first place is always noticeable. See Marie in Persona 4 Golden! You know, right off screen, where she always was, honest! One thing they could've done is have the game start with everyone sitting around a table like that one piece of concept art, and then have them all tell stories about how they got to this point. You pick the order you play those stories out, and that's how the prologues happen. When you're done, Chapter 2 picks up there with the whole party together, and you never have to worry about where characters are during each others' prologues. One downside is that you go from everything being solo to having a full party immediately, though. But what I meant wasn't necessarily to have people chime in during each others' story scenes, but before and after. There's always a couple of lines when a character's prologue gets to the "this is when the rest of the party joins in" point, but there's never a response to those lines. Adding a response would make a huge difference. Similarly, they never really address why the characters stick together after that point--again, one or two lines at that point would smooth it over. As it is, there's just no acknowledgment at all.
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Are all of the scenarios as one-dimensional thief man or did I just pick the bad one from the lot? I've been wanting a new good jRPG since like forever so I picked up the demo. Unfortunately, I'll have to keep looking after my vision recovers from these eye searing lighting effects and anti-aliased to poo poo pixels:  (Why is he using a torch when everything is exploding with light?) This castle that was supposed to be packed with hazards and traps is filled with boring random battles against guards and... whatever the hell this is supposed to be:  Then I get to the coveted treasure and it's... a ball, then I'm then attacked by a butler who either turns impossibly huge for the battle, or his guard is a literal toy. I get what they were going for; certain old school RPGs had larger human enemies; but in this context is looks weird and badly scaled.  All of the dialog is so stilted and bloated that I found myself skipping over voiced lines after I finished reading just so they'd get to the point. It felt like I was playing an old RPGmaker game from 2003; back during the great lighting effect fad... Are all of the scenarios this bad, or was it just this one? The battle system didn't impress either honestly.
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Night Blade posted:Are all of the scenarios as one-dimensional thief man or did I just pick the bad one from the lot? I like the game somewhat but tbh I do feel like it has the RPGmaker or Kickstarter game vibe.
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Harrow posted:One thing they could've done is have the game start with everyone sitting around a table like that one piece of concept art, and then have them all tell stories about how they got to this point. I ~think?~ they’re trying to let you get to chapter 2 without recruiting everyone if you don’t want. I suspect you have to have four guys in your party, but maybe I’m wrong and YouTube is finna fill up with Tressa only runs
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Harrow posted:Similarly, they never really address why the characters stick together after that point--again, one or two lines at that point would smooth it over. As it is, there's just no acknowledgment at all. Yeah, it's funny how it makes sense for some characters to take in other party members but it doesn't for others. Tressa, Ophilia, Alfynn, and Cyrus all kinda make sense for why they'd take along anyone they could for their stories. But it definitely doesn't make sense for Therion who's whole shtick was about being alone, or imo Primrose's since the party joins at an awkward rushed time. And, to your point, since there isn't any dialogue for any of this, the party feels very very loose when you take in the multiple motives where they joined at weird times.
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Night Blade posted:Are all of the scenarios as one-dimensional thief man or did I just pick the bad one from the lot? I agree about the post-processing effects though, I was really hoping they would allow us to tone it down but the only thing they did was put in an option to disable the vignette (screen darkening around the edges). At least most people I've talked about the game with (and this thread) seem to love the effects, so I'll just admit to being a curmudgeon and try not to worry about it too much  speaking of dialogue, I've been trying to figure out the faux ye olde English and I'm starting to be convinced they just wrote a normal script and ran it through a converter. It's so bizarrely bad.   on the plus side, some of the normal dialogue is good 
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I was dumbfounded when Tressa's mom had a Minnesota accent. It was actually pretty refreshing to hear that in a European style fantasy setting JRPG.
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Bean posted:but maybe I’m wrong and YouTube is finna fill up with Tressa only runs
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Your Computer posted:speaking of dialogue, I've been trying to figure out the faux ye olde English and I'm starting to be convinced they just wrote a normal script and ran it through a converter. It's so bizarrely bad. Yon wolves wrecketh mine aught, Arisen
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Saint Freak posted:Yon wolves wrecketh mine aught, Arisen what the fucke did'st thou just loving sayeth about me, thee drat wench? I shall hast thou knoweth I graduat'd toppe of mine class in the navy seales
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Standest thou against me? Then be hunted!
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Favorite part of the game so far is when H'aanit has her animal friend brutally maul two kids in the town square before they can react and they're like "thanks for teaching me how to fight!" 
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I downloaded the Project Octopath demo forever ago but never booted it up, played the rollover demo yesterday for 2 hours (Primrose -> Olberic prologues) and was pretty impressed. Next up is grabbing the merchant girl; however, I'm scared that I only have 1 hour left on the demo and it's 3 whole weeks before this thing drops. 
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Phone posted:I downloaded the Project Octopath demo forever ago but never booted it up, played the rollover demo yesterday for 2 hours (Primrose -> Olberic prologues) and was pretty impressed. Next up is grabbing the merchant girl; however, I'm scared that I only have 1 hour left on the demo and it's 3 whole weeks before this thing drops. The demo is great for trying out the different characters and seeing their motivations. And then agreeing that Tressa is best.
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