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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


khmer rouge still being in power would be an extremely weird thing. they were so self destructive it was inevitable theyd collapse. maybe if someone knocked off pol pot early on. hun sen was in the kr and i think was a part of the one of the early coup attempts against pol pot and had to flee to vietnam

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

khmer rouge still being in power would be an extremely weird thing. they were so self destructive it was inevitable theyd collapse. maybe if someone knocked off pol pot early on. hun sen was in the kr and i think was a part of the one of the early coup attempts against pol pot and had to flee to vietnam

They were absolutely waiting for their chance to send Pol Pot and his diehards back into the jungle. A lot of KR looted ancient Khmer temples and cities for statues and other ancient pieces of art, so they could later use them as props in restaurants.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010
















crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

This owns, god dang. thank u

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

crazy cloud posted:

This owns, god dang. thank u

It's really loving good.

I ain't never read Capital and poo poo like this is a much more accessible way of spreading Marxist Thought to the masses, more poo poo like this and less quotes from a dusty old book.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Fyi that's not marxist, its leftcom/anarchist utopianism. Its stoner logic, not serious radicalism.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

rudatron posted:

Fyi that's not marxist, its leftcom/anarchist utopianism. Its stoner logic, not serious radicalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxKRj9DRnc

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
stoner logic serious radicalism is like, my entire thing tho tbf

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

"Buhhh duhhh it's not the right kind of -ism who cares that it actually helps people understand that profit shouldn't be the defining motivation of society hurrrrr"

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The difference is actually really important. Ego death isn't sustainable or desirable, its actually really dystopian. Even in-universe, we learn that thete are commodities with real, tangible utility (delaying death), that is rejected by mario because he's regards his life without value. That's not healthy, it's self destructive, a symptom of depression.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

rudatron posted:

The difference is actually really important. Ego death isn't sustainable or desirable, its actually really dystopian. Even in-universe, we learn that thete are commodities with real, tangible utility (delaying death), that is rejected by mario because he's regards his life without value. That's not healthy, it's self destructive, a symptom of depression.

what in the gently caress are you talking about

why are you talking about ego death

what is wrong with your brain

it's a cute comic about how capitalism is lovely, you're reading way too much into it

D.Ork Bimboolean
Aug 26, 2016

WampaLord posted:

what in the gently caress are you talking about

why are you talking about ego death

what is wrong with your brain

it's a cute comic about how capitalism is lovely, you're reading way too much into it

Ruda's right. Not sure where your getting the impression that anything about that is "cute".

Both a superficial and deeper reading of that comic is depressing.

D.Ork Bimboolean has issued a correction as of 05:47 on Jun 25, 2018

Metal Cat
Dec 25, 2017

Metal Cat has issued a correction as of 02:55 on Oct 24, 2021

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Metal Cat posted:

The best thing is that this was probably intended for the LF thread but people confuse it with the China one because of half of its title.

It totally was, also that thread had fallen really far down.

But all threads are the same here anyway so who cares

D.Ork Bimboolean posted:

Ruda's right. Not sure where your getting the impression that anything about that is "cute".

Both a superficial and deeper reading of that comic is depressing.

Please don't try to CineD "read" a loving Mario comic. And ruda is never right.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

WampaLord posted:

It totally was, also that thread had fallen really far down.

But all threads are the same here anyway so who cares


Please don't try to CineD "read" a loving Mario comic. And ruda is never right.

It's very explicitly political. Acknowledging that isn't being D&D

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

that mario chose not to go liberate the peasants is Problematic

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

WampaLord posted:

It's really loving good.

I ain't never read Capital and poo poo like this is a much more accessible way of spreading Marxist Thought to the masses, more poo poo like this and less quotes from a dusty old book.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Jeb! Repetition posted:

It's very explicitly political. Acknowledging that isn't being D&D

I'm not saying it's not political, Jeb, I'm saying that whatever the gently caress "ego death" bullshit ruda is trying to read into it is stupid.

Of course it's political, that's the whole point.


Yea, this is exactly like that :rolleyes:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
crazy cloud is right and that comic is good

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i guess if the only commodity you need is grass and theres a vast surplus anarchoprimitivism works but, unfortunately, we are not koopas

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

WampaLord posted:

what in the gently caress are you talking about

why are you talking about ego death

what is wrong with your brain

it's a cute comic about how capitalism is lovely, you're reading way too much into it

he's reading the comic as it actually exists, you're the one misinterpreting its message.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
strong refutations of the conquest of grass itt

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

WampaLord posted:

"Buhhh duhhh it's not the right kind of -ism who cares that it actually helps people understand that profit shouldn't be the defining motivation of society hurrrrr"

it locates the problem as being the act/mental state of "possession" which individuals choose to partake in, meaning the solution is for each person to choose, individually, to give up their possessions and live like a collective or whatever. it's hippie garbage that provides no way towards liberating anyone but yourself.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

gettin pissy and high strung about the warm'n'fuzzy mario comic in the ol' china cspam thread, smdh

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


luigi gonna come back and throw these lumpenprole koopas into the camps to be reeducated through labor

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
if you enjoy the stoner mario cartoon, then fine, but you shouldn't think it's marxist, because it's not.

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer

WampaLord posted:

It's really loving good.

I ain't never read Capital and poo poo like this is a much more accessible way of spreading Marxist Thought to the masses, more poo poo like this and less quotes from a dusty old book.

You could read Capital and other stuff by Marx and actually learn something, you know.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
nobody read capital in 1867 you think people want to read it in 2018?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
was the Communist Manifesto ever decried as not being Marxist enough because it was dumbed down into a pamphlet, was readable by the masses, and wasn't Kapital?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

it's more of an old testament/new testament thing

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Fuligin posted:

gettin pissy and high strung about the warm'n'fuzzy mario comic in the ol' china cspam thread, smdh

this forum owns

THS
Sep 15, 2017

on the comic,

-there is already evidence of a revolutionary situation occurring on the ground in the mushroom kingdom. is mario depressed and in a bad place? almost certainly, but that is an understandable reaction to a realization of his previous crimes. his self-exile is a form of atonement. frankly, the mushroom kingdom does not need him as a liberator, and it’s clear that such a broken man would not be an effective fighter for socialism

the koopas, too, have no obligation toward the wider society as they already exist in a stage without class or the relations of industrialized production. any marxist ethics should recognize that leading these people into this conflict would result in their wholesale slaughter. we’ve all played these videogames and frankly the koopas of the type we see here are not warriors

i agree that were the koopas not merely a pastoral society, it might make sense for the koopas to arm themselves in preparation for big changes possibly coming their way. we don’t know if the character of the revolutionary event in the mushroom kingdom is bourgeois or socialist. however, this is not a realistic or fair expectation from the information we have

honestly i wish them the best and i hope toad is the one to pull the trigger when princess peach’s chickens come home to roost

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
toads are imperialist lapdogs (toad-ies, even) and will be first against the wall

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

as we'll see in the following paragraphs, bowser joining the party in mario rpg is comparable molotov-ribbentrop;

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


now this is more like it

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

i say swears online posted:

as we'll see in the following paragraphs, bowser joining the party in mario rpg is comparable molotov-ribbentrop;


i say swears online posted:

now this is more like it

Lol

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Al! posted:

strong refutations of the conquest of grass itt

-Peter Koopatkin

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


:five:

E: VVV Maybe don't expect a silly comic to present a perfect utopia vision of society, and just accept that it's humorously mocking the lovely status quo :shrug:

WampaLord has issued a correction as of 14:58 on Jun 25, 2018

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
that comic series seems very trust fund hippie and i hate it. why work together and share things when you can not work at all and uh, well, i guess communally starve to death or something?

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