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Lurdiak posted:It's the better version. okay now i actually am mad
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how about now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWB_o7_9Fo
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Rhyno posted:I apologize in advance for this but BSS seems to be the only place these topics get discussed with any actual thought. Hmm well if theyre loving different people my feeling is no but like if betty was dating bruce but she wanted to bang it out when hulk was out id say thatd be pretty dicey territory without Bruce's consent
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Jun 27, 2018 04:23
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Hulk definitely jerks it without asking.
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Jun 27, 2018 04:40
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Teenage Fansub posted:Hulk definitely jerks it without asking. No one should ask if they can jerk it unless that's their kink.
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Jun 27, 2018 04:47
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Yeah let's not kid ourselves this is all academic hulk doesn't give a poo poo
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Jun 27, 2018 04:51
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I might be misremembering but doesn't this sort of come up early-ish in PAD's run with Joe Fixit and Marlo? I could be totally off.
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Jun 27, 2018 05:09
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site posted:Yeah let's not kid ourselves this is all academic hulk doesn't give a poo poo I was gonna say that traditionally everything Hulk does, down to existing, is against Bruce's wishes.
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Jun 27, 2018 11:52
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ecavalli posted:Seconded (and I love the Pulp version). I am also in agreement. Shatner's version is the better song. And that's thirded so the motion is passed.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:15
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Rhyno posted:I apologize in advance for this but BSS seems to be the only place these topics get discussed with any actual thought. Another thing to recognize is that consent can be revoked at any time for any reason (including no reason) during a sexual encounter. Changing personalities is certainly a point where someone having sex with Banner/Hulk would probably want to stop and ensure that they can continue what they're doing. It's not like it's hard to tell when there's been a switch.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:59
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Endless Mike posted:So dissociative identity disorder is a real thing in the real world There's not exactly consensus on that one. An increasingly popular theory is that there really aren't any different personalities, it's just something people with DID symptoms tell themselves to cope.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:31
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It's real enough to be in the DSM-5. I recognize that it's not a perfect text and it updated regularly, but there's at least enough recognition for it to be included there.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:40
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It depends a lot on what kind of relationship Banner and Hulk have, since that changes from time to time. It's possible that Marvel universe law has some precedent to establish whether two people in the same body are legally distinct people or not. This question is doubly uncomfortable because there's apparently only two lawyers who deal with superhuman stuff, so if Matt Murdock is knee deep in casework Jen Walters is gonna have to handle this one.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:49
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TwoPair posted:I was gonna say that traditionally everything Hulk does, down to existing, is against Bruce's wishes. (Bruce Banner turning away from a gamma-irradiated forest) "It was against my better judgment."
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The real question is whether Bruce and the Hulk are legally distinct entities, or if the Hulk is considered a medical condition. If they're legally distinct then I think Hulk or Bruce could legally gently caress independent of the other's wishes. Whether this would have some traumatic effect on Bruce is certainly a different matter but legally I could see it going that way. If the Hulk is treated like a medical condition it'd be like having sex with someone in a coma. Hulk couldn't legally consent on Bruce's behalf. The other party, not Hulk, would be the rapist in this scenario.
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purple death ray posted:The real question is whether Bruce and the Hulk are legally distinct entities, or if the Hulk is considered a medical condition. Judge I will be arguing that Bruce Banner and the Hulk are legally distinct and separate beings. In my arguments I will be relying on the fact that Bruce Banner had an entire life independent of the Hulk before he came into existence. That the Hulk has been shown to have an entire life independent of Bruce Banner after he dies. That the Hulk and Bruce Banner have been shown to have children who are regarded as definitively “the Hulk’s children” or “Bruce Banner’s children.” And lastly, the time when the two were seperated, had independent bodies and tried to kill each other. If the court would turn to tab 2 in my book of pleadings, I shall commence with my first point...
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Jun 28, 2018 00:41
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I wonder if some variety of Siamese twin case law precedent would be relevant.
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Jun 28, 2018 00:44
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Comics are admissible in court in the Marvel U so just find the decades of comics where we see Banner watching in horror as Hulk does Hulk things.
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Scaramouche posted:I wonder if some variety of Siamese twin case law precedent would be relevant. It was, but only up until 1939. Now, you'd need to refer to Thai case law, which mostly focuses on tasty noodle dishes and how to decapitate someone with a flying knee strike.
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ecavalli posted:It was, but only up until 1939. Now, you'd need to refer to Thai case law, which mostly focuses on tasty noodle dishes and how to decapitate someone with a flying knee strike. He's talking about an actual thing, there were Siamese twins (the conjoined twins who were Siamese and are the reason that term exists) and one of them was a massive drunk and got arrested for assault, but because the other one was attached and wasn't a drunk who assaulted people they were released because it would have been unfair to him to be in jail.
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Jun 28, 2018 02:15
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Just hire the oher twin to be a jailer
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Jun 28, 2018 02:20
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Skwirl posted:He's talking about an actual thing, there were Siamese twins (the conjoined twins who were Siamese and are the reason that term exists) and one of them was a massive drunk and got arrested for assault, but because the other one was attached and wasn't a drunk who assaulted people they were released because it would have been unfair to him to be in jail. That was a Tales From the Crypt episode.
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Rhyno posted:That was a Tales From the Crypt episode. All the best Tales from the Crypt episodes are based on true stories.
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Jun 28, 2018 02:27
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Endless Mike posted:Comics are admissible in court in the Marvel U so just find the decades of comics where we see Banner watching in horror as Hulk does Hulk things. Though to wrap this back to where we started, Banner seemed pretty drat okay with that time Umar showed Hulk a good time.
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Banner should be okay with Hulk having sex. Means he's not smashing. Well, ok that's a euphemism for sex but you know what I mean. He's not out there destroying, I should say. Actually no, that doesn't sound much different. What can't be construed as getting laid? He's not going around... ruining lives? I dunno.
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Skwirl posted:He's talking about an actual thing, there were Siamese twins (the conjoined twins who were Siamese and are the reason that term exists) and one of them was a massive drunk and got arrested for assault, but because the other one was attached and wasn't a drunk who assaulted people they were released because it would have been unfair to him to be in jail. Yes, and I was making a joke about the 1939 conversion of Siam into Thailand, a country famous for its tasty noodle dishes and talented kickboxers. I apologize for derailing the dumb derail with a more esoteric (yet also dumb) derail.
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I would definitely argue that Bruce and Hulk are two different bodies.
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Endless Mike posted:Comics are admissible in court in the Marvel U so just find the decades of comics where we see Banner watching in horror as Hulk does Hulk things. but also the ones where banner is in control of the hulk
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ecavalli posted:Yes, and I was making a joke about the 1939 conversion of Siam into Thailand, a country famous for its tasty noodle dishes and talented kickboxers. I apologize for derailing the dumb derail with a more esoteric (yet also dumb) derail. I enjoyed the additional derail. 
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Retro Futurist posted:I would definitely argue that Bruce and Hulk are two different bodies. This was going to be my argument. Banner and Hulk are not two minds sharing one body so much as they are two completely separate physical entities that occupy the same physical space time. It's really almost more of a Shazam/Billy Batson or Quasar/Rick Jones scenario, except instead of relying on magic or it's cousin Space Magic, it's an emotional trigger. When Billy and Shazam swap places, where does Billy go?
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CzarChasm posted:This was going to be my argument. Banner and Hulk are not two minds sharing one body so much as they are two completely separate physical entities that occupy the same physical space time. It's really almost more of a Shazam/Billy Batson or Quasar/Rick Jones scenario, except instead of relying on magic or it's cousin Space Magic, it's an emotional trigger. When Billy and Shazam swap places, where does Billy go? Captain Marvel/ Rick jones I think you mean. And if Billy and Shazam arent the same person then him dating Stargirl when she was the same age as billy but much younger than shazam loops back round to creepy again.
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site posted:but also the ones where banner is in control of the hulk Look I'm not here to help the cops okay?
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So I'm reading through The Black Mirror (Scott Snyder's pre-New 52 Dickbats stuff) and and James Gordon Junior is in it as a seemingly reformed psychopath. The only other thing I've read with him in it is Year One where he's a baby, are their stories where Jim Gordon finds out his son is a killer or whatever? are they any good? what happened?
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Skwirl posted:So I'm reading through The Black Mirror (Scott Snyder's pre-New 52 Dickbats stuff) and and James Gordon Junior is in it as a seemingly reformed psychopath. The only other thing I've read with him in it is Year One where he's a baby, are their stories where Jim Gordon finds out his son is a killer or whatever? are they any good? what happened? As far as I know he went to be raised by his mom after Jim and Barbara (the mom) split and the Junior already had a taste for torturing little animals but we never heard about because it was outside of Gotham. Speaking of which, is Barbara (the wife) dead in the comics? I liked her in Year 1 for what we saw of her
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Apparently not. http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Barbara_Eileen_Gordon quote:DCnU I think I quit launch Batgirl before she turned up and I don't think she was mentioned in Burnside Batgirl at all.
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jim jr, barbara jr, the gordons dont have a creative bone in their bodies
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Makes it even more confusing. I thought Barbara (junior) was Jim's (senior) niece who he adopted after the divorce. drat you continuity.
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Madkal posted:Makes it even more confusing. I thought Barbara (junior) was Jim's (senior) niece who he adopted after the divorce. drat you continuity. She was at one point I think?
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Skwirl posted:So I'm reading through The Black Mirror (Scott Snyder's pre-New 52 Dickbats stuff) and and James Gordon Junior is in it as a seemingly reformed psychopath. The only other thing I've read with him in it is Year One where he's a baby, are their stories where Jim Gordon finds out his son is a killer or whatever? are they any good? what happened? I know James Jr. was in the N52 Suicide Squad for a bit but Suicide Squad got relaunched a stupid number of times in N52 and I quit it quick. It did not seem good, but then, I've hated the vast majority of Suicide Squad material I've read in the past.
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I thought 'New Suicide Squad' under Tim Seeley was pretty good. Better than the series on either side of it, anyway. Neato Juan Ferreyra art.
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