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how are they so bad at this poo poo???
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Jun 27, 2018 11:28
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Crowley outraised OC 10-1 lmao I'm not sure the fundraising actually has any effect now given how much of it is expected to go to grifting consultants.
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Jun 27, 2018 11:30
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Is idpol good or bad now? No one knows It was always good and the people opposed to it were always mean spirited fucks.
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Jun 27, 2018 11:33
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Relevant Tangent posted:It was always good and the people opposed to it were always mean spirited fucks. idpol without consideration of wealth was always bad there's a reason these people are basically bending over backwards to say it wasn't because of her policies and message and support from socialist orgs
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Jun 27, 2018 11:39
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I’d pol is bad when libs do it and good when socialists do it.
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Jun 27, 2018 11:39
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ocasio did this weird trick where she combined idpol with "economic anxiety" and it worked
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Jun 27, 2018 11:48
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Jun 27, 2018 11:49
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Matt Zerella posted:not one goddamn mention of AOC on Maddow. Maddow is a Limousine Liberal, she’s not actually on the progressive side, she’s on the side of whoever pays her the most money
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Jun 27, 2018 11:55
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so uh when can we run her for prez
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Jun 27, 2018 11:57
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Tiler Kiwi posted:lol @ dems and the media being completely blindsided, again they've been too busy lately having the vapors over someone saying a bad thing about fat nazi potus and his fat nazi underlings
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Jun 27, 2018 11:59
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Bad Idpol: Calling voters you need racist and sexist Bernie Bros as a baseless cynical manipulation. Implying voters you are trying to appeal to with your centrism are deplorables. Not bad idpol: Being a POC. Campaigning to appeal to diverse demographics. Calling out bigotry. Any questions?
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Jun 27, 2018 12:00
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Significant Ant posted:so uh when can we run her for prez She’s 28 I think? So unless she was born in Jan I think that means no-go for 2024
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Jun 27, 2018 12:09
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Social justice is good, but not alone. Economic justice is good, but not alone. Justice is good and cannot be divided.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:10
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Liberal idpol is bad because it literally consists of a buncha rich limousine liberals appointing themselves as the divinely ordained spokespersons for all minorities everywhere and then they start accusing anybody who doesn't agree with what they say of being secret racists, even if it is on some completely unrelated topic.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:14
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economic justice and social justice are the same drat thing lol
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Jun 27, 2018 12:15
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white sauce posted:Maddow is a Limousine Liberal, she’s not actually on the progressive side, she’s on the side of whoever pays her the most money
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Jun 27, 2018 12:16
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Class is also an identity
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Jun 27, 2018 12:16
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Liberal idpol is why you get poo poo like the brain worm brigade telling a black woman that she needs to get some black friends because said black woman dared to say leftist things.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:16
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Cerebral Bore posted:Liberal idpol is bad because it literally consists of a buncha rich limousine liberals appointing themselves as the divinely ordained spokespersons for all minorities everywhere and then they start accusing anybody who doesn't agree with what they say of being secret racists, even if it is on some completely unrelated topic. Lib idpol is when a rich white woman claims to represent black men, and refuses to make weed legal.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:16
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Liberal ID Pol is calling innocent black children superpredators and saying you wanna bring them to heel
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Jun 27, 2018 12:18
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Liberal idpol is searching desperately for somebody who is identical in all ways to Joe Manchin, except is also a poc.
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Jun 27, 2018 12:19
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Significant Ant posted:so uh when can we run her for prez she can't legally run until 2024 but...she can illegally run in 2020 
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Jun 27, 2018 12:20
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Idpol is saying "I don't want people to be oppressed or neglected because of their race, sex or identity." Liberal idpol is adding "I want them to be oppressed and neglected because they're poor."
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Jun 27, 2018 12:26
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AOC is my god
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Jun 27, 2018 12:38
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the distinction between real leftism and idpol has absolutely nothing to do with 'having minority candidates', and the fact that the two get intentionally conflated, is itself idpol. idpol is literally 'the politics of identity', or, a worldview that places a strong emphasis on organization on the basis of and within specific groups & subgroups, gender race etc. This comes at the expense of common foundations of political organization, including class and ideology, and idpol is therefore in opposition to both. Which is great for rich people and corporations, because it means they get to pretend to be progressive without facing issues like 'labor exploitation' or 'imperialism', since class struggle and anti-imperialism is hermetically sealed from any wider struggle for emancipation. You throw some money for a float in a pride parade, and you're 'good' now. It affirms rich liberals' own moral superiority, without threatening the exploitative system from which they benefit, and is therefore a favorite of not only 'enlightened elites' such as tech millionaires and movie stars, but members of the minority community who either aspire or are part of the global 1%, and who fear labor agitation as much as rich white people do. Cortez didn't run on any of that poo poo, she didn't run on tokenism, she ran on class issues and and anti-corruption angle. Which is why she won, and why she's not an empty suit.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm not sure the fundraising actually has any effect now given how much of it is expected to go to grifting consultants.
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any true advocate of justice eventually figures out that economic justice and social justice are the same thing
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My wife filled out my ballot while i was at work so i have no idea if I'm a gutless centrist or a naively brave revolutionary
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Significant Ant posted:so uh when can we run her for prez 2024, she'll turn 35 shortly before Election Day.
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hell yeah get hosed Planned Parenthood
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The Nastier Nate posted:the only thing that would make the Cantor moment better is if Crowley bails before his term is up to go cash in on a 7 figgy lobbyist gig please stop making cantor comparisons, it's dumb and misses the point cantor was a national level dick swinger who largely ignored his district who got kicked out not just by the same tea party shitheads abandoning him and switching to support his primary challenger (a cut of shitheads from coulter to ingrahm), but also by left leaning independents coming in to tear down statues to his idiot face because virginia only had a semi-closed primary crowley actually focused on his district and playing local power broker so much (to build donation channels) that most people outside his district or the party itself dont know who the gently caress he is, he had a complete slate of support with the only real dissenting voice being cynthia nixon, and the primaries themselves were pretty much rigged specifically to prevent primary challenges it's a way bigger upset than cantor
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mdemone posted:2024, she'll turn 35 shortly before Election Day. just in time. no chance in hell Democrats wake up enough to make Trump, or his policies, a one-term president. she should primary Chuck or Gillibrand if the chance arises.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:18
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The Tea Party was a massively funded astroturf effort by the darkest money in Republican politics. It's in no way comparable to the people's movement that got Alexandria elected last night.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:21
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Joementum posted:The Tea Party was a massively funded astroturf effort by the darkest money in Republican politics. It's in no way comparable to the people's movement that got Alexandria elected last night. Yeah but they're right wing extremists and she's a left wing extremist, so really it's the same thing.
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Inspector Hound posted:My wife filled out my ballot while i was at work so i have no idea if I'm a gutless centrist or a naively brave revolutionary Gonna save this post for next time somebody says it's stupid to think universal mail in voting is bad and that the secret ballot is super important.
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