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Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Covok posted:

I literally thought you were talking about the recent Supreme Court retirement and the nature of the two party system in the United States of America before I realize you were talking about something a lot less important. I don't know how to take that.

You're in the Traditional Games forum, not the politics one.

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

drrockso20 posted:

Well I just got literally robbed, gently caress my life

Ugh, that’s horrible.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

Kai Tave posted:

You're in the Traditional Games forum, not the politics one.

Every forum is the politics one

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Kai Tave posted:

You're in the Traditional Games forum, not the politics one.

I know, but the comic book forum was also talking about it in their chat thread so I conditioned to expect it.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Covok posted:

I know, but the comic book forum was also talking about it in their chat thread so I conditioned to expect it.

I refrain from posting about the World Cup in this forum and I expect this kind of courtesy from other posters

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
What especially sucks is what got stolen, was my backpack and I had ten books in it, six of which were RPG books, as well as most of my dice

Indeed that's what pisses me off about this, that stuff isn't going to be of value to the guy who stole it, so it's probably been tossed in a ditch or dumpster by now

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

As is traditional, all talk here turns to D&D.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

remusclaw posted:

As is traditional, all talk here turns to D&D.

:eyepop:

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Well I just pitched two ideas to the Spire devs, wish me luck!

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

clockworkjoe posted:

I want sci-fi, not dark urban fantasy. Think Fringe, or Global Frequency. In fact, Global Frequency is very close in terms of game framing/structure that I want todo.

If I have to hack a game to do it, I'll stick with Monster of the Week. Conspiracy X is close, but I wanted something more tool-kit-ish, like a pbta game. I guess no one has made a game that fits my requirements.
GF rules. It is like your Yankee wrestling for children, no?

I think you'll be happy with MotW if you have a strong, clear vision for the atmosphere and tone of the game and your players are on board. MotW's biggest weakness in my opinion is that it doesn't establish these things on its own. Like, is it Buffy? Supernatural? Ash vs. Evil Dead? X-Files? Twin Peaks?

I was also thinking you might want something where every character gets special powers, like the way WoD games are set up.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Joe Slowboat posted:

Well I just pitched two ideas to the Spire devs, wish me luck!

Ideas for Spire supplements or something else? Got details you can share?

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

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Kai Tave posted:

Ideas for Spire supplements or something else? Got details you can share?

They've asked for small pitches for supplements/campaign stuff. Little corners of the Spire to fill out for people to slot into their games, like Eidolon Sky and Blood and Dust, what they call campaign frames.

My pitches were, basically, Sam Vimes as an antagonist and opportunity (a dedicated, heroic guardswoman is trying to start a movement to apply the laws equally and fairly. She's utterly doomed, and even if she succeeded she's a rival to the Ministry, so the Ministers will need to subvert or undermine the Guard). And 'there's no vampires in Spire - how about vampires who steal prayer, devouring the flame of magic divine and occult from their victims' - as an antagonistic cult who specifically are pursuing the Ministry because the Varcolac, their incomplete god, wants to devour the weakened dark moon.

You know, that kind of stuff.

E: It's an open call
https://rowanrookanddecard.com/spire-call-for-writers/

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Joe Slowboat posted:

They've asked for small pitches for supplements/campaign stuff. Little corners of the Spire to fill out for people to slot into their games, like Eidolon Sky and Blood and Dust, what they call campaign frames.

My pitches were, basically, Sam Vimes as an antagonist and opportunity (a dedicated, heroic guardswoman is trying to start a movement to apply the laws equally and fairly. She's utterly doomed, and even if she succeeded she's a rival to the Ministry, so the Ministers will need to subvert or undermine the Guard). And 'there's no vampires in Spire - how about vampires who steal prayer, devouring the flame of magic divine and occult from their victims' - as an antagonistic cult who specifically are pursuing the Ministry because the Varcolac, their incomplete god, wants to devour the weakened dark moon.

You know, that kind of stuff.

E: It's an open call
https://rowanrookanddecard.com/spire-call-for-writers/

Huh, neat. Best of luck. I'm all wrapped up in LANCER stuff at the moment but if inspiration strikes maybe I'll toss an idea their way my own self.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ewen Cluney posted:

I have a whole rant about how Siembieda saw a show about love and humanity during an interstellar war and made a bland military RPG with giant robots. Like, even with the Palladium system you could at the very least include rules for how pop music messes up Zentraedi but I guess it's too much :effort: or something.

Now I want to see an extremely anime and also crunchy mecha RPG system that includes idol singers, genetic engineering and misc space magic.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Now I want to see an extremely anime and also crunchy mecha RPG system that includes idol singers, genetic engineering and misc space magic.

Battle Century G includes rules for anime magic and such

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

gourdcaptain posted:

Are there any good generic-ier Mecha Tabletop RPGs? Looking for something for a group and all the stuff is old and clunky, or just clunky, that I know of.
I can personally attest that Remnants RPG is good, even if a bit less generic and more post-apoc.
I also heard good things about Tiny Frontiers: Mecha and Monsters.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Kai Tave posted:

You're in the Traditional Games forum, not the politics one.
"You're in the D&D forum, not the D&D forum."

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



The Spire is so good and atmospheric and if they don’t at least try to talk China Mieville into doing a New Crobuzon version I will feel betrayed. It could be so good.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Xiahou Dun posted:

The Spire is so good and atmospheric and if they don’t at least try to talk China Mieville into doing a New Crobuzon version I will feel betrayed. It could be so good.

Honestly I'd rather he didn't, they already have enough of his influence and his Pathfinder writing wasn't as good as I'd hope, from what I remember of reading it one time. Just not as good at plot hooks as he is at actual plots and storytelling.

...also, like, Pathfinder? He has extremely D&D tastes in RPGs, and Spire is fine as itself.

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

Xiahou Dun posted:

The Spire is so good and atmospheric and if they don’t at least try to talk China Mieville into doing a New Crobuzon version I will feel betrayed. It could be so good.
Considering stuff I heard about Mieville, I'm not sure I'd want his name associated even tangentially with anything I like even slightly.

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Foglet posted:

Considering stuff I heard about Mieville, I'm not sure I'd want his name associated even tangentially with anything I like even slightly.

I'm scratching my head here. Are you just really, really anti-socialist or something?

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

I'm scratching my head here. Are you just really, really anti-socialist or something?
Nope, there are accounts of him being an abuser.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Foglet posted:

Nope, there are accounts of him being an abuser.

Well gently caress

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I just reread Perdido Street Station the last two weeks, and I liked it markedly less than the first time, which was already so-so. Make up your mind whether you want to write a novel or an RPG setting book, man.

e: we played a Bas-Lag based Fate PBP here once and it owned a lot because I got to play a cactuar

e2: thinking back on the plot, frankly, stick with the RPG setting book

My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jun 28, 2018

Flavivirus
Dec 14, 2011

The next stage of evolution.

Foglet posted:

Nope, there are accounts of him being an abuser.

Yup, specifically gaslighting women about how committed he is to the relationship and then callously discarding them the moment they realise something's up. Sucks a whole bunch, and makes the already somewhat unpalatable ending of Perdido Street Station even worse.

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

Flavivirus posted:

Yup, specifically gaslighting women about how committed he is to the relationship and then callously discarding them the moment they realise something's up. Sucks a whole bunch, and makes the already somewhat unpalatable ending of Perdido Street Station even worse.
And threatening legal action, mind. Both back then and right now.

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.
(They're also pals with you-know-who but honestly, that looks like a pretty minor slight in comparison)

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
Oh, drat, I had no idea. I'm reading up on all this now, thanks for cluing me in.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Well that's deeply disappointing. And morally gross.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Foglet posted:

(They're also pals with you-know-who but honestly, that looks like a pretty minor slight in comparison)
I really don't. Voldemort?

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

My Lovely Horse posted:

I really don't. Voldemort?
Zee, of course.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Jesus, just use his name, who cares if the dude relentlessly ego-searches for himself.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Voldemort can't google all of us

Kai Tave posted:

Jesus, just use his name, who cares if the dude relentlessly ego-searches for himself.

agreed, that poo poo is childish as hell

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.
Eh, it's more like a quirk or occasional tic to me than a conscious policy anyway.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I appreciate that his behavior cost him his "having a name" privileges.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Well I don't know poo poo and y'all are coming across like gatekeepers of the secret knowledge right now, which is the last thing this hobby needs.

On the other hand it does feel like it's the kind of secret that I'd happily file under "stupid RPG politics that I don't need to give a poo poo about" anyway so gatekeep away. Is it one of the rear end in a top hat 5e "consultants"?

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

Zach Whatsisname, yeah.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

My Lovely Horse posted:

Well I don't know poo poo and y'all are coming across like gatekeepers of the secret knowledge right now, which is the last thing this hobby needs.

On the other hand it does feel like it's the kind of secret that I'd happily file under "stupid RPG politics that I don't need to give a poo poo about" anyway so gatekeep away. Is it one of the rear end in a top hat 5e "consultants"?

China Mieville palled around with ZakS, who is a serial harasser and sexual reactionary that likes to cloak himself in performative wokeness. Mieville went as far as offering an endorsement blurb for one of his products.

ZakS, yes, is also one of the credited consultants for D&D 5th Edition, which was a cynical ploy by Mike Mearls to try and gain some kind of street cred with the grognardy OSR crowd.

People don't like to say ZakS's name out loud because it's at least suspected, if not explicitly known, that he likes to name-search himself and then turn his harassment crowd against people who poo poo-talk him.

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

gradenko_2000 posted:

China Mieville palled around with ZakS, who is a serial harasser and sexual reactionary that likes to cloak himself in performative wokeness. Mieville went as far as offering an endorsement blurb for one of his products.

ZakS, yes, is also one of the credited consultants for D&D 5th Edition, which was a cynical ploy by Mike Mearls to try and gain some kind of street cred with the grognardy OSR crowd.

People don't like to say ZakS's name out loud because it's at least suspected, if not explicitly known, that he likes to name-search himself and then turn his harassment crowd against people who poo poo-talk him.
Zak and China also made a picture book for kids. "The Worst Breakfast" if memory serves.

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Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Didn't China Mieville also give ttrpg rights to his Bas-Lag universe to GMS anyway, therefore ensuring it will never see official publication?

gradenko_2000 posted:

People don't like to say ZakS's name out loud because it's at least suspected, if not explicitly known, that he likes to name-search himself and then turn his harassment crowd against people who poo poo-talk him.

These forums are hosed and don't show up in google searches anyway, but he probably has an alt or two he uses to lurk here like he does on every forum he was ever banned from and every person who blocked him on social media

Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jun 28, 2018

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