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All of the NJPW regulars, even the flyin talent are light years ahead of the ROH only guys. Even dudes I absolutely love like Silas Young are nowhere near where they should be in stature because ROH is this weird black hole they fall into.
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Jun 30, 2018 18:54
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ROH somehow found a way to make me even less interested in their world title
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Jul 1, 2018 02:18
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triplexpac posted:ROH somehow found a way to make me even less interested in their world title they streamed it live on Honor Club sooooo congratulations to Jay Lethal because you needed it or something god the ME scene just utterly blows
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Jul 1, 2018 02:36
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Put the belt on the guy fans wanted to see win it a year before Have his first title defenses not main event cards in favor of Bullet Club, and even when they do have it only be main eventing because Bullet Club members are in the match Falsely advertise champ for tour he's hurt for the entirety of, knowing he can't compete in it Have champ work for months after the injury, not having time to properly heal and aggravating the injury in the process Have him finally drop it to Jay Lethal Yeah, they did everything they could to have me disinterested in Dalton's reign, even when him getting a reign was the big/only thing I looked forward to happening all last year from the company
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Jul 1, 2018 02:40
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Ring of Horror! e: Ring of hogwash Cavauro fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Jul 1, 2018 02:47
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There hasn't been a good ROH world title reign since the last time Lethal had the belt. After that you had: - weird Adam Cole -> KOR -> Adam Cole belt swap - Christoper Daniels run I forgot about already - Cody doing Cody stuff - Dalton Castle Yeesh. Dalton's reign could have been great if he got the title a year earlier and hadn't gotten hurt.
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Jul 1, 2018 03:32
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marty should have won it in april
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Jul 1, 2018 04:54
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Just have Naito win it and toss it in the ocean with IWGP IC belt
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Jul 1, 2018 04:58
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I was about to wax poetic about how much I miss Lethal's world title run from a few years ago, completely unaware that he won the title today. I miss when ROH had that weirdly amazing run in 2014/2015.
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Jul 1, 2018 05:09
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Bring Back Truth Martini
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Jul 1, 2018 05:12
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i dont think roh has had a really exciting world champion since steen.
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Jul 1, 2018 05:12
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i dont think roh has had a really exciting world champion since steen. they haven't really had exciting anything unless somehow the Bucks are involved since Steen
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Jul 1, 2018 06:57
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NienNunb posted:I was about to wax poetic about how much I miss Lethal's world title run from a few years ago, completely unaware that he won the title today. I miss when ROH had that weirdly amazing run in 2014/2015. Yesterday me and my roommate were talking about how great lethal was as champ and how much we missed him. I wished he was champ but not like this.
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Jul 1, 2018 07:05
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Wait they gave Lethal the title with almost no build? LMFAO.
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Jul 1, 2018 08:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Wait they gave Lethal the title with almost no build? LMFAO. they've been building to it for the past few months with lethal going over everyone who has beaten him since losing the belt before. im guessing dalton hit his wall and cannot go anymore so they pulled the trigger earlier than they were planning to.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:45
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Chris James 2 posted:Put the belt on the guy fans wanted to see win it a year before  my dude Dalton Castle deserved better, god drat it
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Jul 1, 2018 10:46
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roh is not very good at booking babyface champions, or at least they've shown an inability to. actually thats not really true, i thought briscoe's two reigns were done really well. dunno why he didnt break out more.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:48
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roh was late on getting the belt to tyler black, they were late on getting the belt to elgin, they were late on getting the belt to kyle, i dunno if i'd say they were late getting the belt to dalton because i dont know that i ever felt he was there yet, but roh has a history of waiting too long to pull the trigger on the babyface. they got it extremely right with edwards and richards though.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:50
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2011 underrated year for roh.
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Jul 1, 2018 10:51
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STONE COLD 64 posted:roh is not very good at booking babyface champions, or at least they've shown an inability to. actually thats not really true, i thought briscoe's two reigns were done really well. dunno why he didnt break out more. Briscoes torpedo’d themselves by going on social media.
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Jul 1, 2018 16:47
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Monkey Paw booking
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Jul 1, 2018 17:48
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RIP Dalton you deserved better 
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Jul 1, 2018 17:56
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STONE COLD 64 posted:they've been building to it for the past few months with lethal going over everyone who has beaten him since losing the belt before. im guessing dalton hit his wall and cannot go anymore so they pulled the trigger earlier than they were planning to. I know the first part but like I consider that the first act of a build, then [SCENE MISSING] then act 4.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:21
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I know the first part but like I consider that the first act of a build, then [SCENE MISSING] then act 4. What was act 2 and 3 supposed to be then, because honestly, the logical next step is "I challenge the champion now that I've redeemed myself"? They obviously rushed through the build to the actual title match, but that was because Cody and Marty's New Japan roles don't allow them to be the ROH champion right now so they had to have Dalton retain and then drop to someone else.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:23
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Gaz-L posted:What was act 2 and 3 then, because honestly, the logical next step is "I challenge the champion now that I've redeemed myself". Let's see. Any direct promo exchange leading up to the match, any decent sized stage whatsoever (i.e. not a nothing show immediately after a much bigger built title defense at a PPV), any promotion at all on TV about where and when the match would take place (and you could apparently watch it on Honor Club so they'd have been smart to really drive that home), anything on TV to drive home what Lethal was doing other than a mediocre ROH promo package...
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Jul 1, 2018 18:31
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If Dalton's injuries are so bad you have to get the belt off him ASAP, and they don't want Cody being the champ when everyone knows he's jobbing at Cow Palace, why not just give it to Marty at the PPV? It's not like he's doing anything in Japan right now with the G1 coming up, and you could easily use him to transition the belt to Lethal without making it feel so random.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:46
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Benne posted:If Dalton's injuries are so bad you have to get the belt off him ASAP, and they don't want Cody being the champ when everyone knows he's jobbing at Cow Palace, why not just give it to Marty at the PPV? It's not like he's doing anything in Japan right now with the G1 coming up, and you could easily use him to transition the belt to Lethal without making it feel so random. Marty's doing the job on a tag match on the undercard of the same SF show. He's tagging with Adam Page against Tanahashi and KUSHIDA, and they're not going to job out Hangman or Tana before the G1. And having an active junior on the New Japan roster holding the ROH world title doesn't look great when he's going to consistently be the fall guy in multi-mans over there.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:51
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Benne posted:If Dalton's injuries are so bad you have to get the belt off him ASAP, and they don't want Cody being the champ when everyone knows he's jobbing at Cow Palace, why not just give it to Marty at the PPV? It's not like he's doing anything in Japan right now with the G1 coming up, and you could easily use him to transition the belt to Lethal without making it feel so random. Convince people to subscribe to Honor Club, anything can happen at the house shows, type of deal. Imagine that's the logic at least. Still feels a bit of a hotshot but I can see what they were thinking at least. Not sure it'll actually help any
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Jul 1, 2018 20:56
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if the direction is to put the title on cody after the cow palace show, or if it's austin aries or matt taven or someone else, jay lethal makes total sense. it's another babyface champion who can fight the same challengers dalton would have, it works as a culmination of his whole redemption storyline, and he's already had a long title reign so if this one winds up being transitional it won't really hurt him. also, i think this is actually the first time the world title has ever changed hands on tv, so now the next time they do a title match it won't feel like as much of a foregone conclusion. sometimes doing stuff out of nowhere is good. sometimes you should surprise people. also also, jay lethal is an extremely good wrestler and he's really over with roh crowds so, like, why not
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Jul 1, 2018 20:57
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I have a strong feeling that Lethal's transformation into Black Machismo on Being the Elite is leading to Black Machismo vs. Cody (who Lethal thinks is Dusty and therefore wants to murder)
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Jul 1, 2018 22:49
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EugeneJ posted:I have a strong feeling that Lethal's transformation into Black Machismo on Being the Elite is leading to Black Machismo vs. Cody (who Lethal thinks is Dusty and therefore wants to murder) Could be a misdirect and he goes in as Flair. (Admittedly, Cody's gimmick basically already is Ric Flair, which is kind of genius. Dusty's son becoming the spitting image of his greatest rival?)
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Jul 1, 2018 23:03
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Oh God I just realized Lethal would recognize Brandi as Sapphire They almost have to do that
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Jul 1, 2018 23:11
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STONE COLD 64 posted:roh was late on getting the belt to tyler black, they were late on getting the belt to elgin, they were late on getting the belt to kyle, i dunno if i'd say they were late getting the belt to dalton because i dont know that i ever felt he was there yet, but roh has a history of waiting too long to pull the trigger on the babyface. they got it extremely right with edwards and richards though. Ugh now I’m sad again that Eddie got sucked into the black hole that is TNA
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Jul 2, 2018 01:01
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A big past for days for ROH. They had a PPV with match of the year candidates and then a huge title change the next night. Both nights with over 3000 fans in attendance. Here's a great column talking about the title change from Saturday. https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2018/0...major-spoilers/
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Jul 2, 2018 04:22
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Roque11 posted:A big past for days for ROH. They had a PPV with match of the year candidates and then a huge title change the next night. Both nights with over 3000 fans in attendance. Not that I know anything of the deals they got on the venues, but they were 3000 people in a 6000 and 10000 seater each. That had to hurt.
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Jul 2, 2018 12:48
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OGB posted:Not that I know anything of the deals they got on the venues, but they were 3000 people in a 6000 and 10000 seater each. That had to hurt.
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Jul 2, 2018 12:55
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your ring ropes are fresh
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Jul 2, 2018 12:58
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Calling anything involving Jay Lethal or Dalton Castle MOTYC worthy is a bit of a reach. But thanks for the chuckle, Roque.
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Jul 2, 2018 13:33
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ROH parted ways with their biggest star last night https://twitter.com/DeonnaPurrazzo/status/1013557233819488259
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Jul 2, 2018 14:26
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coconono posted:Calling anything involving Jay Lethal or Dalton Castle MOTYC worthy is a bit of a reach. Dalton, maybe, but Lethal is legit a fantastic worker. With the right opponent, he could absolutely have a MOTYC.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:38
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